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#2260039 Canucks Vs Detroit in Motor City

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 21 February 2012 - 06:43 PM

I get the need for mitigation of potential pending cognitive disonence, either way I expect a pretty epic effort by both teams.

When you're going to throw around big words like cognitive dissonance to try and sound smart, it helps if you spell it correctly.

Back to Psych 101 for you!

#2259963 Kyle Quincey traded to Detroit in 3 team trade (TBL & COL)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 21 February 2012 - 05:46 PM

Prior to it everyone complained that that was one, if not THE, gaff of Holland's career. Now that he's back, he cost us too much. Make up your damn mind already.

You can't see how both of those are still valid?

I don't know that I would even say he was THE gaffe. But clearly they were off in their evaluation of their young defenseman at that point. But that's not to say I thought Quincey was some absolute awesome defenseman the Wings had to get back.

Like I said, I'm just meh. He's an upgrade over Kindl for sure. Can kill penalties. Plays on the PP. The move definitely improved our defense.

#2259944 Kyle Quincey traded to Detroit in 3 team trade (TBL & COL)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 21 February 2012 - 05:35 PM

He was put on waivers because Meech constantly outplayed him. Were you watching hockey back then, or did you completely miss that Quincey did not at all attract attention whereas Meech played very well in 2008 and 2009?

Yeesh. Also--yes, grammar--it's "should have," not "should of." :thumbup:

Quincey did not magically transform into a 20 min a night defenseman overnight, and Meech is no longer playing in the NHL.

Clearly the Wings staff were off in their evaluations of both of them.

#2259939 Kyle Quincey traded to Detroit in 3 team trade (TBL & COL)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 21 February 2012 - 05:32 PM

this trade just screams meh.

Agreed. It's unfortunate Detroit had to give up a first round pick for a mistake they made a few years ago and because of the disappointing play of their first round pick in Kindl.

#2259614 Has Ovechkin Passed His Prime?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 21 February 2012 - 09:37 AM

At 26, I doubt he's past his prime. But it seems like he has a terrible attitude and work ethic, especially for a captain.

From the outside it looks like when things stop coming easily to him, he either stops caring or stops working hard or both.

It must be frustrating to be a Caps fan and have to watch two incredibly talented players like Ovie and Semin sulking and screwing around instead of manning up. It's like Fedorov on his bad nights, times two.

#2259612 Canucks Vs Detroit in Motor City

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 21 February 2012 - 09:25 AM

At 41 years old I've seen enough to expect the Cup Curse on Vancouver but that hardly means last season was a disappointment, I'll take a loss in game 7 of a cup final every year if other fans aren't interested unless it means actually taking home the prize ;)

Back to this game though, the comments here suggesting that it matters no more than two points make for entertaining literary calisthenics. The fact is that it is a matter of professional pride for players on both sides to rise to this challenge, if only to benchmark themselves against the next best in their conference and be assured, neither team wants to get rolled over.

As for the fans, there are kids in all camps, I dont get too bent out of shape over it. I respect the Wings as a team with deep talent and regardless of what what the Canucks have or haven't done in the past they too are deep so if some here dont feel this matchup means anything more than 2 points, I challenge them to prove it by not bothering to watch :D

Entertaining literary calisthenics? :rolleyes:

The fact of the matter is the game obviously means something to you. But you and your other Canucks friend still haven't acknowledged that these teams have played each other three times already this season. And even if Vancouver does win then it means they split the series with Detroit again this year. Yet this game somehow is the one that counts? You're right in that it's a matter of professional pride, just like it would be not to lose to Columbus. Because they're professional hockey players. They take professional pride in not losing hockey games.

So far you're staying true to form for a Canucks fan. Condescendingly telling fans of other teams the "truth" about hockey and being so self involved that you can't imagine your own view of the hockey world isn't fact. The general subtext of your posts is that Vancouver is so special of course this game means a lot to Detroit and its fans. The reality for the Wings fans I know, is it just isn't. The vancouver games have made for some really entertaining regular season hockey, but it's still just another regular season game in the stretch run.

I don't know if the Vancouver media somehow is playing this up to be a big deal or if it's your own creation, but it's getting comical. It's like in years past when the Blues would talk about the huge rivalry in Detroit, when to Wings fans it wasn't even in the top 5.

#2259451 Canucks Vs Detroit in Motor City

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 February 2012 - 06:55 PM

It is clearly a big game. And an indicator of how the two teams stack up.

Personally, I don't think Canuck fans overestimate the importance of this game any more so than (smug) Red Wings fans try to downplay the impending loss (let's face it the home streak will end eventually). It is a big game, no two ways about it. By pointing out the obvious, that there are only two points at stake, you are not taking away from the fact that the outcome will also impact the season series and potential the ROW stat. Not too mention it is a clash of two of the NHL's flagship franchises.

While it is popular to crap on Vancouver, the team and its fans lately, I'd challenge any Wings fans on hockey knowledge and/or love of the game. There is any entire generation of Wings fans who have never experienced a losing season. Show me a fan who has watched all 82 of a team that finished out of the playoffs and I'll show you a hardcore Wings fan. So that means unless you're over 30 you're pretty much out.

It's easy to be a Wings fan because they have an excellent team and organization. But, from an outside fan's perspective that is obviously pure luck.

Anyways, I'm a fan of both teams and have always had a great deal of time for current and former Wings, especially Yzerman, Lidstrom and Larionov. Because they were/are great players and great people. You'd never catch them taking unsolicited shots at their competitors, unlike certain current players, media and fans (hello Bollard, Marchand...). Unfortunately, it seems the unreasonable and irrational distain for Vancouver has leaked into the usually civil Wings fanbase.

They've played each other three times already this season!

It may be important to (the generally condescending) Vancouver fans. Just being honest when saying I don't think most Wings fans don't see it as that big of a deal. It's one game in the season. That's not smug. The Wings haven't made it out of the second round in a couple years now. It's not that they dont' have anything to prove. It's just that they have to beat whoever is in front of them, whether it's the Preds, Nucks, Sharks... whoever.

Honestly a Sharks game is a bigger deal because they are the team that's eliminated the Wings two years running now.

As for being popular to crap on Vancouver, the players and fans bring that on themselves. The Canucks used to be one of my favorite teams in the early to mid 90s. My recent disdain for them comes comes from personal experience in real life at games combined with the idiots over at hfboards. Last year they basically made that place intolerable. And at games they made Philly fans look good natured.

As for the actual team, they still have some players I like, but I can't get past all the diving that team does. The Sharks Nucks series was ridiculous, especially compared to Boston Tampa. Add to it garbage like finger biting, and they're just not a team I want to see win.

But hey if you want to ignore the prior three games this season and build this one up to be something it's not, so be it.

#2259380 freeredwings.tv stops streaming NHL games

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 February 2012 - 03:13 PM

Now I am going throught the same thing, I bought NHL Gamecenter Live as well and soooooo many games get played and advertised but I cannot watch because it's on my local station...NHL GAME CENTER IS MY STATION, man it's bulls***. Then they threaten these "little" people who are actually providing a service for very little or no return to other people who other wise cant afford it? What the f***.

Good luck man and thank you :thumbup:

I agree that the NHL needs to improve gamecenter and stop blocking out games for the NHL network, but thing is, the service he's providing is clearly illegal.

If people can't afford it, it sucks but that's the way it goes. We all make choices as to what we will and won't spend money on. Stealing it to share with those who can't afford it doesn't make it any less illegal.

There was a time not too long ago where if you didn't live in the Metro Detroit area, you just weren't able to watch Red Wings games. Gamecenter is far from perfect, but with that and Center Ice, there's a helluva lot more opportunity to watch the Wings game than there used to be.

#2259105 Sharks May overcome your streak. Otherwise it would be a great game.

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 February 2012 - 06:07 PM

Sort of surprised this has remained up. It's pretty obvious trolling, even if the horrendous grammar gave me a good chuckle.

Very doubtful I would see a topic such as this posted to the Sharks' forum if the tables were turned.

As far as trolling goes, it was pretty polite. And it's just one more reason why this forum is cooler than most. ;)

First overall in the league and a 23 game home win streak. I think us Wings fans can handle a little friendly ribbing, even if the message does sound like it was a text message from someone who speaks English about as well as Homer.

#2259102 MAC-SANITY!

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 February 2012 - 06:00 PM

Great game by Joey. He saved the Wings butts several times today.

If the Wings were in a market for a backup goalie in the last few months, they aren't anymore.

#2258772 2/19 GDT : Sharks 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 February 2012 - 02:02 PM

abdelkader assisted by ericsson.


that was a weak ass call on E

#2258735 2/19 GDT : Sharks 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 February 2012 - 01:58 PM

refs trying to get the sharks back in the game.

How is it interference when the puck is still on his stick.

What's this bulls***??

#2258276 Yzerman asks Pavel Kubina to Provide list of teams

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 February 2012 - 01:09 PM

Only way I would take Kubina is an Ericsson for Kubina+ trade. Just to free up money in the future.

If Kindl or any other defensive player is involved, I am pissed.

He is a temporary upgrade over Kindl, and Commodore wouldn't clear waivers or return anything in trade... Getting Kubina means losing one or both of them... then it should be a pass.

The simple fact is, even if we only trade draft picks (WHICH I WOULD HATE IN THIS TRADE) Then we lose a roster player to add him anyways.

I wouldn't want to lose a single player from this roster without it being a clear upgrade. I believe that E on the back end is the only player where it would be a clear upgrade and a straight deal doesn't seem likely, nor would us getting equal value. Would Yzerman want his awful contract? I doubt it.

I will be upset if we lose any of our forwards, and all but two of our defensemen to pull this off. It doesn't seem like a smart move.

Am I understanding you correctly? Kubina would only be a clear upgrade over Ericsson, and not the two defenseman who've been alternating healthy scratches this season?

There are people who still seriously think right now Kindl is a better player than Ericsson?

I'm not saying the Wings should go all out for Kubina but lets' have a reality check here. Kubina would be a major upgrade over Kindl and an upgrade over Commie as well. He's a huge player (6'4 258lbs!)who actually uses his size, right hand shot from the point on the power play, Stanley Cup winner, veteran experience, can handle big minutes.

You don't think that's a clear upgrade over a 25 year old D man who lost his spot in the lineup because he plays much smaller than he is, and his development seems to have tapered off? Going into the playoffs with an Ericsson Kubina bottom pairing, and Kubina on the 2nd unit PP is a definite upgrade.

Like I said before, the Wings may be thinking that he's a rental this year and a potential replacement for Stuart next season. Another Wings reclamation project.

#2257681 Steve Ott has praise for the Wings

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 17 February 2012 - 09:24 AM

Very Cool on Ott's part. Say what ya want about the guy, but I would love to have him in the Winged Wheel Uniform. I must say a pretty classy act by Mr. Ott.

so that's one check mark in the Classy column, 9,938 in the Douchebag column.

#2256491 2/14 GDT : Stars 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 February 2012 - 12:40 PM

I hope Ericsson puts Eriksson through the glass.