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#2255688 2/12 GDT : Flyers 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 08:38 PM

Kronwalled! Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy than Briere. I hate that punk.

#2255641 2/12 GDT : Flyers 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 08:13 PM

Simmonds is a first class ******.

For getting repeatedly punched in the face by Franzen?

#2255635 2/12 GDT : Flyers 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 08:11 PM

Like I said, I'd love to have Simmonds on the Wings.

And if he dropped the gloves I think Mule would get awful quiet awful fast.

#2255604 2/12 GDT : Flyers 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 08:06 PM

Sweet, douchebag NBC defends Rinaldo headshot on BigRig. Big surprise.

What game are you listening to? They said he left his feet.

And they've been massively complimentary towards the Wings so far.

#2255586 2/12 GDT : Flyers 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 08:04 PM

E admiring his pass, but it looked late and contacted the head. And he left his feet.

#2255526 2/12 GDT : Flyers 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 07:48 PM

What will it take for you to shoot the damn puck more Hudler? Instead of a shot from the slot you pass it Z for a shot from near the blueline.

#2255404 2/12 GDT : Flyers 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 12:16 PM

So, tying an NHL record would be a great birthday present for me.

Also, somebody please tell me why in the hell we didn't sign Jagr?


I'd just try and focus on what's important. Instead of signing with his former penguins, he signed with their intra-state rival Flyers. :lol:

#2255403 Tomas Tatar

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 12:12 PM

as someone who doesn't live in detroit any longer, it's great to get informed opinions on these prospects from you guys.

it's often hard to get good info and hockey's future can be waaay off about guys sometimes.

#2255402 If we got Selanne..

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 12:06 PM

Just pointing out a difference and why the two situations ate completely different.

Having a list of 5 teams you're willing to be traded to as one of the stars of the franchise is pretty much a NMC.

My main point was never say never. Selanne has never said anything nearly as dramatic as Cheli did about the Wings, and the rivalry isn't nearly as heated. Plus his comments lately have been pretty measured.

Like I said, it seems like an extreme longshot, but who knows.

And this is one of the cases where offering Kindl and Hudler makes some sense. They'd pick up some of the goalscoring winger they'd lose in Teemu, and I'm pretty sure the Ducks are still in need of help on their blueline.

#2255392 If we got Selanne..

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 11:51 AM

Yes, but I recall him saying the Hawks asked him to give them a list of 5 teams he would like to play for and they would try to accommodate him. Lucky for us, Detroit was on that list, despite his words previous to that date.

Blue, I don't understand all the hate you get for making threads that include lines combo's. Isn't that an important part of hokcey, lines? I like reading them. I don't always agree with your combo's but that is the point right? With that being said, I am not so sure it would cost as much as Hudler and Kindl to acquire Selanne for a spring rental. Wings_Toledo is on the right track with Hudler always be offered up (I am guilty as charged) but really, unless some team REALLY wants Hudler badly, nobody that are sellers are going to ask for a pending UFA in return. BUT, they mayb take a lessor player and a higher level prospect for him, or maybe a couple of prospects. I am not sure. I would make one change to your lines though, I would swap Zetterberg and Datsyuk.

Filppula - Datsyuk - Selanne
Bertuzzi - Zetterberg - Franzen

I would also like to see what wings_fanatic suggested with re-teaming Zetterberg and Datsyuk, but I would keep Franzen on their wing, because if Franzen was on a line with Fil and Selanne they would get their assess pounded on a nightly basis with no one to protect them. Having Bertuzzi out there would at least make other teams look behind their heads before taking liberties. Of course that would leave Dats and Z open for abuse then, because Franzen isn't gonna drop anyone short of punching someone after the whistle or game expires...

Agreed. I'm not totally positive but I thought Chelios requested (some say demanded) the trade once it became clear to him that Wirtz was intent on running the franchise into the ground.

I don't really get the negging either. Don't like it? don't read his threads.

#2255375 If we got Selanne..

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 February 2012 - 10:58 AM

Hasn't Selanne gone on record saying he hates the Wings?

He's made comments about the reffing when the Wings play at home.

But Chelios also went on record saying he'd never play for the Wings.

Selanne would be a great pickup at the deadline, but seems like a tremendous longshot.

#2255260 Congratulations Tomas Holmstrom

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 11 February 2012 - 03:58 PM

You can be pretty certain that he's probably averaged at least one crosscheck per game in his career too, so imagine over a thousand crosschecks to your back.

The guy's a warrior. The Wings have scored a lot of goals because of his presence in front of the net, even if he doesn't end up with an assist. There isn't a stat column for screening goalie with your ass.

#2255239 2/10 GDT : Ducks 1 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 11 February 2012 - 01:03 PM

I agree. I think I am just trying to squash the "Franzen can't hold a candle to Perry" argument. They are both about equal all things considered. Perry has youth while Franzen has a track record of performance.

Actually Id' say Perry has the better track record of performance. Mule has two ridiculously explosive goal scoring years in the postseason and another overall good performance.

Perry has a 98 point season with 50 goals, two 70+ point seasons. Mule's regular season high is 34 goals and 59 points (which he'll likely break this season). Then factor in that Perry is on a crappy Ducks team the last couple seasons. The main reason they made the playoffs was his second half of the year.

I hate Perry when the Wings play against him, but if you're talking about a one for one swap, I'd take him over Mule. The Wings are better and harder to play against with him, and he's a RH shot to boot.

Neither set of stats is very useful as is. Stats from 2008 and beyond are most representative of the type of player Franzen is now. For three consecutive playoff years Franzen was PPG or better in the playoffs; last year he was hurt. He is certainly a more effective playoff scorer than regular season guy.

But you could say the same about Perry. He's a much better player now than he was as a 22 year old.

#2254744 Anyone Ever Notice This?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 February 2012 - 04:33 PM

Players have been giving Lidstrom that respect for a while. I think it comes from three places:
1) he's a living legend and he's treated accordingly (whether consciously or not) by the players and refs,
2) he doesn't drill other players or really develop any kind of physical antagonistic relationship and
3) Lidstrom has a history of slipping checks and making the other guy look silly. A check that you're not likely to actually land is worse than no check at all.

Like you said: a guy like Kronwall will always get hit harder by the other team than a guy who plays the game as elegantly as Lidstrom.

Gretzky was treated the same way by the end of his career. Lidstrom's a guy people mention in the same breath as Orr. And really, it's hard to make an argument for any defenseman other than Orr being as singularly dominant as Lidstom has been in his era. Guys like Bourque and Coffey had peers, Lidstrom and Orr never did.

Not if you visit hfboards. People there will grudgingly put Lids as #5, at best, and always behind Bourque. It's kind of comical.

#2254250 Cleary out for about a week

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 February 2012 - 12:32 PM

cleary is awful this year...not a huge loss.

5th in TOI for forwards with over 16 minutes a game.
Plays on the PK and the PP and isn't afraid to go anywhere on the ice.
6th on the team with 11 goals.
8th on the team with 27 points and is a +12.
He was on pace for about his usual 40 points.

People may be unhappy with his play, but anytime you lose a guy who plays 16 minutes a night in all situations and get you 40 points, it's a significant loss. Hopefully he gets the knee drained and comes back healthy.