From what I understand Gilbert did really well on the first pairing in FLA last season. Of course, being on a terrible team and not being a *superstar* caliber defenseman. You're pretty much fly under the radar and get panned as a nobody with little worth. Gilbert would be fine if everyone else slips through our fingers. He's not the home-run that everyone will be looking for tomorrow afternoon, but I think I would prefer him to Boyle as he wouldn't be as expensive and would probably allow flexibility for trades later in the season -- if necessary.
I would slot him in as our #5 D-man to pair with a kid. He's definitely not a 1st or 2nd pairing guy on our team.
So worst case scenario:
Kron - Smith
Deke - Ericsson
Gilbert - *Kid*
That's what I was thinking. If it's between Boyle and Gilbert, I'm probably more interested in Gilbert.
Niskanen scares me a little because he's going to require such a huge commitment in term and salary.
I would think Stevie could get more than a 6th round pick for Gagner. He's only 24 and has a $3.2 million dollar cap hit over the next two seasons.
Good job freeing up cap space, but bad asset management IMO.
It's sounding like the most important goal was cap space before the free agent market opened. So Yzerman trades Purcell (who was a buyout target for Tampa) rather than buying him out because he's older and would be a 2/3 buyout. Now he has Gagner, who I guess they weren't terribly interested in. Then instead of buying out Gagner (which would only be 1/3 buyout because of his young age), Yzerman trades him while retaining salary equivalent to a buyout, but gets a 6th rounder for his troubles.
I'm not super familiar with Tampa but aren't they neck deep in good young forwards? So they don't have much of a need for Gagner and Yzerman is trying to clear space immediately.
This is a busy time of year in terms of trades/signings/buyouts and there's a lot of rumor and speculation that goes with that. A proper source and link separates fact from fiction. Threads without that information will be locked. It takes two seconds to copy and paste a link.
No source to show, I know someone close to Holland. I only get to talk to him maybe once a year though. That's why when I do, I get all kinds of info at once, just like last year. But their intentions are to trade pulkinnen in a package, they know he probably won't have a shot at making the team with nyquist Tatar jurco sheahan and mantha.
He will be traded before the end of the season in a package. Like it or not.
Has no balls? Would trade our most valuable assets for players, literally almost every team wants a kings ransom. The one team that didn't was San Jose, and guess what, Thornton wouldn't waive his no trade clause to go to Detroit. No one wants to bring their families to a gang infested neighborhood to play hockey. San Jose was going to trade him pretty cheap too.
Then please clearly state in your posts that the information is a rumor instead of as if it's fact.
Actually Holland has not been sitting on his hands the past two years. Everyone wants any two of nyquist, Tatar and mantha and that's it. And jarnkrok did in fact tell Holland he won't play another season in the ahl, he wanted guaranteed nhl time, which is why he was traded.
Pulkinnen will also be traded or let to walk, he won't be making the team.
According to TSN hockey guru Darren Dreger, even if James Neal never takes a single shift for the Nashville Predators, he'll still be the third leading scorer in franchise history behind David Legwand and Steve Sullivan.
If they're going by career points previous to the Preds, wouldn't Forsberg be at the top of that list?
Another question I've been asking myself when it comes to what we need/want this offseason is this: What kind of team are we, and what kind of team do we want to be?
It's clear that there's a lot of talent available this offseason. A whole lot of teams aren't happy with the outcomes of their seasons and are looking to shake up their rosters. But just because a guy is talented, or has played the right role in the past, doesn't mean he's a fit. For a few years now I've felt we were a team without an identity. Not skilled enough to be a skill team, not gritty enough to be a gritty team, and not big enough to be a power team. Now we've got some young talent coming along which displays some skill, and was drafted as such. Do we keep going in that direction and try to overwhelm teams with pure skill? Do we augment it with power? Do we augment it with grittiness?
Personally, I think we can't expect playoff success on pure skill. Teams keep us to the outside and block shots. And we don't have the core go completely over to power like a Boston or Anahiem (whose best players are huge). I think the smartest move is to go gritty. Replace just a little bit of high end skill for fast, tough, rough guys. Be like a better version of Montreal or Columbus. Which would preclude acquiring guys like Thornton or Perron. But that's just me.
Wholeheartedly agree about the lack of identity.
The Wings have been clinging to the puck possession game but no longer had enough talent on the roster to make that work effectively, especially on the blueline. But they aren't really built for any clear alternative.