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what are you on right now? i want some haha that would be the stupidest trade in red wings history

Um...no? Zetterberg is the better player, and trading him before he starts to decline (and probably even after that) would put a black mark on this franchise in relation to loyalty that would take decades to recover from.

This. Plus Z is just a heart and soul Red Wing. He embodies everything about the Wings and he's one of those special players who etches themselves into the fabric of the team. He's never had a bad playoff year. He's one of those guys who would sacrifice anything to help the team win and the value of his leadership and value within the locker room is hard to overstate. Zetterberg is a cornerstone player who defines the team. However, when the Oilers traded Gretzky they proved that no one is untouchable.

Hank has intangibles that Getz can never have. Zetterberg shuts down other teams forwards like no one else in the game, (besides Datsyuk)and still finds a way to score during the playoffs, I don't give a rats ass who has more goals in the regular season, it's the playoffs where I judge the Wings. Let the Ducks chase regular season stats. On your second comment, Nick Lidstrom is still a top five defenseman in the league at 40, and top five of all time, to suggest that Getz is on his best day a top fifteen, maybe a top ten forward in this league to suggest that he is better than any one player on our entire roster is just plain stupid. This is Independance Day not April Fools Day... if you weren't confused about the day, perhaps it's the site, you might find this one more to your liking: A better site for you...

Umm... no... Datsyuk and Zetterberg are better players than Getzlaf. Why would Anaheim's theoretical unwillingness to trade Getzlaf for any player on our roster establish him as better than all of them? And no, I wouldn't trade Zetterberg for Getzlaf. Zetterberg is a great player and the future captain of the team.

No With out Hanks beard in the playoffs the team would crumble, plus I hate Ryan Getzlaf's face. The dude's face makes me want to slap it.

Why is it that Kovalchuk is so heavily speculated to go to the KHL? He turned down a 12 year, $102M contract from Atlanta, he's got a 10 year, $100M contract from the Islanders sitting on the table now, and the KHL offered him a 3 year contract worth $42M. He hasn't signed any of them! What part of that screams greedy Russian to anyone?

Not to mention the general ******-ness vibe you get just by looking at him. He looks like a college frat boy who wears pink polo shirts with the stuck up collar who thinks he's the s***.

I think someone liked the Getzlaf/Ryan skit from the NHL Award Show a little too much...

Getzlaf had a much better year than Hank and is a younger player with more potential. Hank is 30 years old and it's doubtful that he hasn't hit his peak already. Hank is better defensively, but Getzlaf is more physical and will only improve defensively. Zetterberg has a tendency now to disappear for stretches at a time. I know people here are biased, but Getzlaf was a better player last year than Zetterberg, and even though Hank has had great seasons in the past, we have to go by the most recent outing and also realize that Getzlaf hasn't hit his prime yet. With that said, I'd keep Hank, because I don't like Getzlaf and wouldn't want to see us trade our future captain away. But as far as who the better player is right now, I say it's Getzlaf, and I don't care if every dumb slappy here negs me for actually being objective.

I am not arguing who is better. My isssue is that you think that every single one of the 30 GM's agree with you and that is a stupid thing to suggest. You are correct in that I made a typo with "no" instead of "know". If you scan all of my posts you might even be able to find a few more typos over last few hundred posts. Actually your post was well thought out and clearly written until you ended it by saying all the GM's agree with you. And my reading comprehesion is fine thank you.

This makes no sense at all. First you say that it is increadibly close but Z fits the team better, then you say 30 out of 30 GM's would chose Getzlaff. Ok in your opinion Getzlaff is better. Fine. You are entitled to your opinion but 100% of the GM's are not going to agree with you. Maybe some of them but ALL of them? Get over yourself already. 30 out of 30 GM's no more about hockey than you do.

Grammar is your friend.

I'm 100% positive that there are a crowd of people on these forums who would agree with my assertions on this matter.

The more I think about it, the better it sounds. Modano with a guy with Hudlers skill on his wing, and a healthy Dano with net front presence and ability in the corners and on the boards has all the makings of a fantastic 3rd line.

One day Steve Yzerman will be a Red Wing again. And I for one, can't wait for that day! Yzerman is God.

I'm thinking that most GM's don't care if he's big, mean, or Canadian. (Brian Burke excluded).

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How does the phrase "not on your life" sound? Loyalty is why great players take pay cuts to stay here their entire careers rather than make more money on some other team. Nick, Hank, Pavs....they could all make more money somewhere else than they're making here. However they want to be Red Wings. So they take less than they're probably worth. Illitch does right by them, they do right by him. It would be far too easy to piss that good karma away, and we should be grateful they don't. There's a reason players say they want to come here, want to sign long-term deals. Drapes and Malts may be older and not possessing the same skills they used to, but rather than kicking them in the balls, the team is going to let them go on their terms. They've earned that much. Hockey may be a business, but if you piss people off and give them the impression that you won't do squat for them, they won't come here and you won't make money. You have to grease wheels to get them to move.

You are just jealous of us cool people that wear pink polo shirts with the stuck up collar who thinks we are the s***. On topic, it's really almost too hard to think about. Zetterberg has done nothing to warrant that he needs a change of scenery and neither has Getzlaf. The intangibles are too hard to compare considering the only people who really know are in the locker room. Getzlaf is also a different player type of player then Zetterberg. Really it's almost comparing apples to oranges to me, both players have their strengths and weaknesses and while the past likely sides that Zetterberg is a better player, the future might be a different story on just production. So I'd most likely turn down the offer mainly because Zetterberg fits the Wings identity. And I'd guess that the Ducks would turn down the offer mainly because he fits the Ducks identity.

Maybe we could lure back Tkachunk.

Nice speech, care to add some substance to that rhetoric? Or are you going to stick to broad assertions that are meaningless to anyone besides you?

every year i want the wings to make a big splash in free agency like they did in the pre-cap NHL, but then a team goes and does something like this and it makes me appreciate Mr. Holland even more

Yeah, the loyalty toward Maltby is somewhat irritating. Not discounting what he did but dang.

Too bad and very wrong. Lils fought hard to come back and the Wings season took a good turn last season when he was back in the lineup.