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lol this topic comes up yearly.

I bet you cried the day that they took the negative option away from the ratings. Such posts as yours cry for that sort of attention, and now we find ourselves with little recourse other than to either ignore you or actually waste bandwidth in responding. I'll throw the bone today because I'm bored. Lilja will be missed. I'm not saying Salei won't do a good job; I'm sure he will. But rest assured, Lilja will be missed by many. Thanks for reminding us that you're still with us.

Haha, I was wondering when someone would finally post this topic. Thought about starting it myself just to keep the tradition going!

Every year. It's like clockwork, I swear to god.

O.K. I have to ask this. Are you Patrick Sharp by any chance?

Also, please no Bernstein ads on the glass this year.

It's insane right now. Last season you'd see opponents not only in the crease but practically sitting on the goalie and their goals would count. This time, Homer's blade tips were in the crease NO WHERE NEAR the goalie. They've got to get that figured out or they're gonna lose any credibility they had left. Anybody just getting into watching hockey will not believe the stupid, inconsistent s*** that goes on out there with the calls.

Bettman and Crosby I remember too when McCarty signed on with the Flames, one of the Flames players said, "We won't rub it in that we beat him last year". I thought huh? DMac, a 3 time Stanley Cup Champion at the time, is being brought in to show you guys how to win. Idiots!

The officials

I don't hate the Avs anymore. The hit on Draper has been avenged, Lemieux will forever be known as (1) a turtle and (2) a wuss when confronted by someone his own size, and we won the rivalry with the 7-0 win in 2002. It's old news with the Avs.

DAMMIT, I heard Hudler learned that goal celebration in Russia last year and I was dying to see it.

Datsyuk, with a gust of wind behind him.

Well, he will definitively be in the line-up to make sure that no cheap shot or knee on knees occur... oh wait.... Get well soon Franzen!

lmao whats criesbitch gonna do? Reminds me of this

You do realize that Detroit averaged within a few decimal places the same shots per game as Toronto last season, Toronto must be a good puck possession team too then. People are talking about how Lilja is going to be missed so much but we actually improved at his position if Salei stays healthy. You dont need to overrate Lilja either. He was an average number 6 defenseman

Yeah. That's why I threw you a bone. I know you're probably getting one since someone responded to you. By "many" I mean those who appreciate a guy who blocks shots, fights when no one else is willing (even if it's not his forte), and those who are aware that he won last year's "sexiest Wing" contest. I didn't say that all of the reasons that he'd be missed were valid, just that many people would miss him.

So you don't strive to move up and try to get bigger responsibilities or pay raises at your place of employment? Yeah, you are right... I can't wrap my head around why people hate those who are ambitious and strive to better their lives. Haters gonna hate.

actually it's much more entertaining to have people respond to you instead of simply giving you a neg vote. if by "many", you mean a few message board posters that have a habit of over-valuing their team's lesser players...then i guess you're right.

lilja is an easily-replaced player that rejected a very fair offer made by the wings. i'm sure if you try hard enough you can wrap your head around that.

see ya, andreas. you won't be missed.

Hahaha this forum kills me sometimes. Arguing about a #6 defenceman? C'mon guys. Newf buddy, dont worry, Salei will be fine. Who cares who's better, Salei's a Red Wing, that's all that counts.

Youre going to preach at me about using logic and then use last season where Salei played 14 games and Lilja played 20 as your measuring stick? Well Salei had 1 less blocked shot then Lilja in 14 games compared to Liljas 20. Their hits work out to 1.5 per game and 1.9 per game, hardly a difference at all. Lilja had more giveaways and they had the same number of takeaways in 6 less games for Salei. Now thats all using an extremely small sample size but still, Salei has the stats advantage in those 20 games. Hows that for logic

The only real advantage he has had on Salei is plus minus which is obviously going to be higher becaus of the difference in the teams, Salei was only -4 on a team whose top 6 defenseman were -10, -16,-12,-19, and -21. Other then that Salei has less give aways, higher take aways, hits are close, but Salei is known for being a more punishing hitter. A healthy Salei is better then Lilja even if Lilja is a good #5 defenseman. A healthy Salei is a number 4 guy

In 08-09 Salei had 143 blocked shots in 70 games, Lilja 92 in 60 games. Lilja averaged 1.5 blocks a game, Salie averaged 2 blocked shots per game. Salie had 36 give aways, Lilja had 29 in 10 less games with fewer minutes played. Lilja isn't better in any stats category really at all, and this was all before his brain got scrambled