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I'm not sure why Jiri Hudler's struggles are an endorsement of an enforcer as opposed to an indictment of the man himself. I would rather trade Hudler for a guy that will score 50-60 points like he was expected to than someone less skilled.

Bring it home, Ozzie!!

He didn't 'do' anything other than 'simply leave the team'. There is nothing 'treasonous' about playing for a rival. There have been literally hundreds of players to do so in NHL history. But that's really beside the point. Like I said earlier, there is a time and place for it. During an honors ceremony commemorating past crontributions is not it. Booing a former player when he's playing against you as a member of a rival team, like Fedorov, is fine. But if Fedorov were to be honored here, or we hold some celebration of the Cup wins he was a part of, I wouldn't expect him to get booed, and would think anyone doing so was disrespectful and classless. As Chelios said, let bygones be bygones. You even said yourself that he shouldn't have been booed, so what exactly are you defending? Do you really think anyone is suggesting that every single Hawks fan is classless? Mickey made a generalization about the Hawk fans in attendence. I think he even said something to the effect of 'not all of them' but it doesn't matter. It was a generalization, and many fans here are doing the same thing. Have we as humans devolved into such PC ******* that we can't suffer hearing a generalization, even though everyone knows that generalizations are not, nor are even intended, to be taken as absolutes? We're criticizing Hawks fans as classless for booing Cheli. If you weren't booing him, it should go without saying that the criticism doesn't apply to you. Should we have provided a list of names of those we're referring to, so no precious innocent feelings are hurt? Grow a ******* shell. Chicago fans should be embarassed by that display. It was classless. That doesn't mean every single fan is classless. Chicago fans should be proud of the fantastic parade and celebration following their Cup win. That doesn't mean every single fan was a model of good sportsmanship and grace in victory. Did you run around the internet telling everyone praising the Hawk fans then not to make generalizations?

Every team has it's share of fans that are jerks, this team is no exception, even though I root for the LSU Tigers down here to win, I consider a lot of their fan base to really be a bunch of over the top jerks. I know plenty of Saints fans down here that are over the top with things as well, but in general (at least for the Saints), I consider many people down here to be welcoming and friendly, enjoying the company of people and fans from out of town and typically nobody goes overboard to where visitors feel unwelcomed. I know all Blackhawk fans and Chicago fans aren't like this, but it's just a disgrace that Chelios was disrespected by a large majority of people last night just because he played for a rival. And this isn't the first time I've seen or heard of really bad disrespect from Chicago fans. In 2006 when the Chicago Bears went to the Super Bowl, they beat the Saints in the playoffs that year. I didn't travel up for that game, but a few friends/family did, not one story I heard from them, or from people on local talk radio down here was positive. They were not really welcomed or wanted, they were harassed, etc. And it's not like any Saints fans that I know of were looking to start trouble or stuff like that. I hate doing that - basically don't provoke me or give me reason to snap back at you in an angry or negative way when all I want to do is watch the game and mind my own business. It's unfortuantely because I really like the city, went there in April and was the first time I was there in at least 15 years and I loved it. I don't share in some of the disliking of the Blackhawks like some do in here because I'm not from the north (though I think I get it/understand it), I was happy they won the Cup last year partially for Hossa and partially because I have some family ties living up there and one of my friends down here is from Chicago, but for people here who live/have lived there or go there sometimes or whatever, do bad game experiences outweigh the good ones?

LetsGoWings.com Official Game Day Thread VS. Start time: 5:00 EST Joe Louis Arena - Detroit, MI Available On: Tonight's Stream http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php/user/15741-drumnj/ (Directions in profile) Official Game Preview: Osgood goes for 400 as Stars visit Wings ---- *Opposition GDT* From DallasStars.com ---- Around the NHL Pronger confident Flyers will be fine without him Donald Fehr made head of NHLPA Winter Classic truck visits NYC Western Conference Standings 1. Detroit Red Wings....................31 GP, 20-8-3, 43 pts 2. Dallas Stars............................32 GP, 19-10-3, 41 pts 3. Vancouver Canucks.................30 GP, 18-8-4, 40 pts 4. Colorado Avalanche...............32 GP, 18-10-4, 40 pts 5. Nashville Predators..................32 GP, 17-9-6, 40 pts 6. San Jose Sharks.....................33 GP, 17-11-5, 39 pts 7. Anaheim Ducks......................36 GP, 17-15-4, 38 pts 8. Los Angeles Kings.................30 GP, 18-11-1, 37 pts -------------------------------------- 9. Phoenix Coyotes.....................31 GP, 15-9-7, 37 pts 10. Chicago Blackhawks...............34 GP, 17-14-3, 37 pts 11. St. Louis Blues.......................31 GP, 15-11-5, 35 pts 12. Columbus Blue Jackets..........32 GP, 16-13-3, 35 pts 13. Minnesota Wild......................31 GP, 14-13-4, 32 pts 14. Calgary Flames......................33 GP, 14-16-3, 31 pts 15. Edmonton Oilers....................31 GP, 12-14-5, 29 pts STARS 32 GP, 19-10-3, 41 pts Last Game: Defeated CBJ 2-1 RED WINGS 31 GP, 20-8-3, 43 pts Last Game: Lost to CHI 4-1 Last DET-DAL Meeting: 10/14, DET 1 at DAL 4 Recap - LGW GDT Highlights Goals DAL Brad Richards: 14 DET Dan Cleary: 14 Assists DAL Brad Richards: 23 DET Pavel Datsyuk: 26 Plus/Minus DAL Loui Eriksson, James Neal: +10 DET Justin Abdelkader: +11 ---- DAL Steve Ott: -7 DET Jiri Hudler: -7 PIM DAL Steve Ott: 65 DET Tomas Holmstrom, Jonathan Ericsson: 34 Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Hudler-Zetterberg-Cleary Eaves-Filppula-Bertuzzi Draper-Helm-Abdelkader Miller scratched Lidstrom-Stuart Ericsson-Rafalski Kronwall-Salei Projected DAL Lines Neil-Richards-Eriksson Morrow-Ribeiro-Benn Ott-Burish-Segal Barch-Wandell-Peterson Grossman-Robidas Skrastins-Niskanen Woywitka-Daley Andrew Raycroft Record: 5-3-0, 2.31 GAA, .925 SV%, 1 SO ---- versus. ---- Chris Osgood Record: 3-2-1, 2.48 GAA, .907V%, 0 SO STARS No injuries reported ---- RED WINGS Mike Modano (severed wrist tendon) out On Deck 12/22, Canucks at Red Wings ; 7:30 PM

Ok, I know all of you are pissed at me, but I got to spend 2 hours with the Cup yesterday. At about 130 yesterday afternoon I got a phone call from my stepdad that the cup was going to be in Davison at 230. I then hauled ass to the dealershio in Davison and then got to spend nearly 2 hours with the cup. The entire experience was amazing. I got to hang with the Cup Keeper and talk about Hockey history and what not. The rest of the time I was standing next to the Cup reading it and simply taking it all in. I really wish everyone could experience this. The Cup was at Hank Graff Chevrolet yesterday between 2 and 4 for toys for tots, of course you had to donate money or toys, but it was a great event and alot of money and toys were donated. Hope you all enjoy the pic (I'm on the left) and I hope you all will not be mad at me for too long!

Can't say I'm wild about splitting up Pavs and Z, but hey, Babs knows better than I do. Ozzie gets 400!

Anybody have some good highlight/tribute videos for Red Wing Players I will post mine, I am planning on a Cleary and a Helm, maybe a Homer in the Future. Franzen: Rafalski:

11>4

First of all, no matter what the circumstances of his departure were, it's still classless to jeer a former player on a night you're supposed to be honoring them. It's a sports rivalry, not a ******* holy war. (And at the time of the trade, and even now, it's barely a legit rivalry. Though I guess Chicago fans would have a different perspective.) Boo him as a player, fine. There's a time and place for it, but last night was not it. If you can't show some respect and appreciation, at least remain silent. If you can't even do that, you're an ass. End of story. Secondly, unless you can actually produce some evidence no one is going to believe any nonsense about Chelios negotiating his own trade. I'm sure he wanted to go to a contender. At the time that meant Detroit, Colorado, New Jersey, or Dallas (and maybe St.Louis). I think I even remember Holland and Co. wanting to talk to him in person, to make sure he was willing to play here. But I've seen nothing to suggest he was guilty of anything more than changing his mind about never playing for Detroit. The unsubstantiated accusations sound even more petty and ridiculous than the jeering last night. As for the picture, Chelios was a Wings player at the time the picture was taken, and the teams were actually playing later that night. Maybe it was a superstition thing. And are Chicago fans really criticizing Chelios for taking the Cup to his hometown, like every other player does with their Cup day?

People around the league consider Lidstrom as one of the strongest candidates for the Norris so far this season, and you're complaining because his +/- rating isn't to your liking? Lidstrom isn't your captain. He's captain of the Detroit Red Wings, not of mopey little ******* who whine incessantly.

Enjoy. http://www.freep.com/article/20101218/SPORTS05/101217050/1053/sports05/Its-time-to-celebrate-what-Chris-Osgood-has-done-for-the-Red-Wings

I am trying to organize a brick throw for a Leafs game this year. It seems like a very popular idea. All the bricks without blood on them will be collected and used to build a homeless shelter.

He had them removed to facilitate the insertion of Twinkies.

Hull did it faster.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving turd...

Maybe they can do some exploratory surgery and see if there's a medical reason he lacks sportsmanship.

Eberle and Hall won't be getting much scoring support when they're surrounded by guys like that.

that news is warm and gooey!

I agree. Watching a team who you know is going to win more often than not and you know will make a serious run for the cup isn't as entertaining than an Eastern team who plays only offense and is prone to early round exists.