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I respect that your dream respects retired numbers.

First of all, Parise is NOT weak defensively, have you ever watched this guy play at all? Or are you simply pulling up his stats from this past year (when his centerman was injured for almost the entirety of the year)? And you would rather have HUDLER over PARISE? lol One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on here.

After we sign Parise. I want Suter here as much as the next guy, but Parise is 1A on the priority list.

I just sold my soul to the Devil for Parise and Suter. We can all breathe easy.

Could you imagine how terrible it would be for Penner and Franzen to play on the same line?

Zach Parise is like younger,US version of Henrik Zetterberg and would absolutely love to see him in the Wings sweater

Parise is also great along the boards, goes to the net and has a fantastic shot. Yeah, we don't need someone like that...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/eulogy-remembering-2011-12-nashville-predators-210438973.html

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the goal was credited to another player. after the goal Zetterberg evantook the puck and brought it to that player (#43), but I no longer know that name. truth being said, Zatta is playing great, nevermind the scoresheets.

What's all this Parise talk? We have Franzen! esteef

I want to see Yzerman as GM after Holland retires, I'm sure he'll figure out the rest.

You'd think the fact that Sweden is using him on their World Championship roster over several NHL players that he's one of the better prospects out there. He's also dominating the faceoff circle over there winning over 60% of his draws. That would be a nice addition to the Wings puck possession style of hockey. As far as the Wings ability to build internally through the draft, show me a team with more players on their roster they drafted and developed. Nashville might be the only one who compares and I believe they are tied.

I'm hesitant to add Jurnkrok to the list of "elite" prospects. In the scope of this this organization maybe but not in terms of league wide prospects. Then again, I wouldn't consider many of our prospects making the cut for the latter group. I just don't see it. I know it's not a popular position to hold but I think our prospects are average. I really want to see some work done by Holland on that front this summer. It's not longer just "we're the Red Wings, we don't rebuild we reload". You have to build internally through the draft and by developing prospects.

Nashville would have zero chance at both keeping Suter and landing Parise. They have 15 players (8 UFA, 7 RFA) to try to re-sign (or replace), including Weber, Suter, both Kostitsyn's, Radulov, Gill, Bouillon, and Tootoo. If we assume that the cap goes to $70 mil, that leaves 15 players to sign with $43 million in cap space. There's just not enough room to sign their crucial players (Weber, Suter, the Kostitsyn's) to raises over their salaries this year, AND try to land Parise. Even if they managed to pull that off, they would have no offensive depth, very little defensive depth past Weber & Suter, and one of the most expensive goalies in the league. Not exactly a good way to pursue that whole "one goal" thing. But I'll agree. Suter in Detroit? Yes please!

Wouldn't mind having Suter here in Detorit. He'd be a nice fit I do believe!!

Oh Really? And when was that, again??? When I read that, it made me disregard everything else that you had said.

The only thing nasty about Rick Nash is his cap hit.

I'm not sure how you think that a guy that scored 40 goals and 81 points his final year with the Wings stayed too long.

Yeah, CapGeek is the go-to site for most of LGW regarding possible signings and trades. Little known fact, our own Matt helped design their current cap calculator with their most recent overhaul.

Of course, if the cap does rise to $70Mish, then we are talking a whole different monster. Holland could throw $15M ($7.5M each) at Parise and Suter, $1.25 at Vokoun, $1.25M at Helm, $1M at Abby, let Quincey go (collect draft picks) let Hudler walk and ALSO give Lidstrom his $6.2M and that would be a great team. I'd even let Franzen stick around... FORWARDS Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($1.250m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($7.500m) Ian White ($2.875m) / Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Tomas Vokoun ($1.250m) ------ SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,142,045; BONUSES: $37,500 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,357,955 Leaving $2.35 available for injury call-ups and extra cash for depth at deadline...as much I as dislike Cleary and Franzen and believe they need to be traded. I can really get behind a roster like this...of course that is IF the Cap goes up to $70M.

Thanks bud, i puked some of my lunch up in my mouth when i read Pacioretty.... This offseason, it's Parise or bust. The Wings could use Suter, but Parise is needed more as the Wings have decent depth at D and could always throw an offer at Weber next offseason. Smith will be up full time next year as he should have been this year. Send Prust an offer July 1st, there's some toughness and a quality player that could play on the 3rd line and rotate on the 2nd to get Z the puck. The Wings don't need a complete overhaul, they just need to let pieces go that no longer belong. Taking an entire team and dismantling them is just pure stupidity. Guys like Sheahan and Jarnkrok will be on the team for sure probably starting the 2013 season and we'll most likely see more youth in the next couple years. To suggest trading away Dats and Z, you are not a true Wings fan. That's like saying the Wings should have traded away Federov and Shanahan back in the day. Lets wait to see what Kenny does before we lose our s*** and use taglines like "EA Sports, it's in the game"

Wow, you make blanketed statement with the age and injury thing I understand we lost a lot of players due to injury but you cant just say that the team is old. How about Helm, Ericsson, Kindl, Mursak, Quincey and Eaves. ALL missed 10 games or more due to injury....average age...23.5 years. Kinda debunks your myth because from where I am sitting, young guys get hurt just like the old geezers...No question that it takes older guys longer to heal- It also takes experience on how to take a hit, when to press and when to sit, how to fall so you dont hurt yourself. No doubt this team is missing a few key parts...It became evident as year wore on BUT this is also the same team who won 23 games in a row at home, setting a new NHL record and did a lot of things right. If this team is capable of that, we dont need a major overhaul. We dont need to look at replacing 10 people on this team in the next 2 years.....thats NOT gonna happen and it shouldnt. Key components with our core group and the Wings will be where they want to be. PS Love David Jones? Bigger, Stronger, Faster, Healthier..No, missed 11 games due to injury. Just sayin'

When I read posts like this, I am glad Ken Holland is in charge.