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The difference is that when Datsyuk and Zetterberg are on cold streaks, you can see them working hard, backchecking, going to the hard areas. Something about their game just seems a little off or the puck's just not going in but you can see the work. With Franzen it feels like he works hard for the first part of his shift and if he doesn't score right then he can't wait to coast back to the bench. He's got great size, a great shot and great hands. It's all about his compete level. or lack of it. When he scores in a game, it's like it reminds him how great it is to score. It lights a fire under him for the rest of the game and he keeps getting great chances and often scores again. If he's not scored in a while though he seems content to just whip it at the net and see if it goes in.

i just wanted to say i hope redwings fans arent pissed at holland if suter and parise go elsewhere and we see carle and garrisson etc signing elsewhere for ridiculous contracts like 5 million + a season I'd rater we dont go crazy for these guys and spend wisely and keep some money for shea weber next year and whoever else will be available July 1 can be a pretty crazy day where alot of stupid gm's overspend on mediocre talent and as much crap as kenny gets here from some fans i know hes not stupid and i wont for example sign garrisson to like 5 years for 25 million like some idiot probably will that being said lets hope we get suter and some grit like prust at least , everyone enjoy july 1st

If you think Garrison is going to sign anywhere for under a million dollars, you're on supercrack!

Wish Detroit could of landed him for a backup. I've always like him, he's a solid backup! However I knew the Rangers would re-up him. His agent stated he loved working with Henrik and New York city.

There's a lot of people that watch games that feel Franzen floats. I bet a large majority of Red Wings fans would classify Franzen as lazy. This isn't some random concept perpetuated by a few fans. As for being a power forward, Franzen isn't really doing that either. Hudler went to the net more in the playoff series than Franzen did. For a dude with as much size as Franzen has, he rarely utilizes it. He isn't physical, nor willing to play in the tough areas of the ice most of the time. I will give him credit that he has a great wrist shot and can score goals effectively in that manner. Though in no way would I call Franzen a true power forward.

Montoya is a steal at 0.875 mil per. Good goalie rarely given a chance in NY regardless of how well he plays, he has an opportunity to shine on a good team.

Nah the breakdown will be if Parise and Suter BOTH go elsewhere, worse yet to the PENS, worse yet if Ken Holland kicks the tires and gets no one.... Then the forum will break down.....yikes!

Floating has nothing to do with speed. You can work your ass off and still be slow. It has to do with the fact that you never see Franzen as Mickey would say "picking them up and putting them down". He just coasts around. Power forwards go hard to the net. You cant be a power forward and just glide to the net. Franzen has been gliding the last 3 years.

They don't make almost twice as much as Franzen, their cap hit is just higher. Franzen is signed through 2020 with the last 3 years being 2, 1, then 1 mill to get his hit down. That's about Holland's cap manipulation, not their relative pay this past season. Mule was paid $5.25 mill this year, compared to 6.7 for Dats and $7.4 for Z. Either way I don't think floating is something that should be excused by a player's salary. Teams that win have players who bust their ass to fulfill their role every second of every shift. That sure doesn't sound like Franzen. It's not that I think the Wings should trade him, but I'd love for Babcock to sit him when he's floating out there.

There is nothing perceived about Franzens laziness. Streakiness is something that all players suffer from to a greater or lesser degree. Even Pavel was ice-cold in the first and last months of the season (for different reasons), and red-hot inbetween. The key is to make the streaks last as long as possible, and minimise the funks. My problem with Franzens bad attitude is that he is allowed to get away with it. Signing a lifetime contract and being allowed to coast your way through it sends totally the wrong message to the rest of the team.

I'll post stuff here I guess. Avs want David Jones back. Preds "optimistic" w/ Suter

Im not a franzen lover however I take him for what he is. He's never gonna be a hard working power forward like gezlaf and the like. The guy has a nice shot good stride and a nose for the net. I'm not a fan of his softness and wouldn't oppose a trade. For me franzen is what he hs and will never be what he's not.Sure there re harder working players and better options, but it looks like we're stuck with him. His contract is also bad

Thank you, thank you thank you, you are far to kind! Just to put a smile on your face I will say this, JB is over payed and over rated I think. I think his spark of greatness is gone. As for Iginla he's awesome but older, and not worth giving up two first rounders to get him. I wouldn't mind him on our team if it only costed us middle tier talent (even lower end draft picks). You are smiling now right...!

Howard is in a contract year, don't think he will like splitting time with someone when he wants to play the most he can and the best he can to get a nice fat paycheck next year...he would really hate if he lost his job to Fat Boy and it would suck if he just said F/U and walked as a UFA....

No thanks to Gausted....there are too many other bottom 6 players available that are better...but if we get to plan D, then sure....

Any rational GM would need Flip as the center piece of any trade with the Wings. Therefore, Scott Howson would obviously want Franzen.

I sure as hell would give 100% at my job all the time if there were 20,000 people in an arena watching me do my job.

Ah ok, my apologies then.

I was just joking around....which is why I included the Slow day at the office, I need something to pass the time. But I do agree with you, if someone decides to be greedy it's harder to side with them.

The problem with Franzens streakyness is that if he is not scoring goals he is essentially useless on the ice. He used to be a hard working checker which is what got him to the league. Once he found a scoring touch he's gotten complacent in doing the little things. He doesnt skate hard and the only "meanness" you see of him is maybe a snarl as hes sitting on the bench. Plain and simple he got lazy. It can be summed up in one specific play that stands out last year. Franzen turns the puck over in the offensive zone near the corner and falls down. He gets up and slowly starts skating up the ice. Helm I believe it was stole the puck around center ice. Waited at the blueline for Franzen to get out atleast 3-4 seconds but then was forced into the zone by a back-checker and thus the play ended offside. All because Franzen instead of skating hard after turning the puck over decided to go on a 10 second pity skate and screw an odd man break the other way.

I think the production is there, I wouldn't expect a whole lot more from him in terms of goals or points. There are shifts, however, when he just finds a spot in the neutral zone towards the attacking blue line and doesn't really do anything. I'd rather him backcheck hard consistently and lose 5 goals a year than float. The other problem with the streakiness is that it goes away during the playoffs (usually). That tells me that he has an extra gear, he just only uses it when he wants to.

Need a break down to how bad Zetterberg was to start the season. He was god-awful bad. Also Lidstrom was pretty bad at the end of the season/playoffs. If Franzen was consistent like very few NHL players are (like Crosby), would Franzen's cap hit be under $4 million? I don't think so. In essence, Franzen is a bargain right now and will be extremely difficult to replace his offense for under $4 million per year. I would only consider trading Franzen if it's for a younger, tougher, more proven offensive power forward (NOT CHRIS STEWART OR PENNER TYPE GUY)

Don Cherry Twitter: Doesnt sound like hes too sold on this guy I also dont really understand all the fuss. In no way are we in bad shape...not just yet.