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Only bright spot tonite is the giant rack sitting behind babcock

To say we suck tonight would be insulting to things that suck, like Justin Bieber, Kim Kardashian, and Dyson vacuum cleaners.

Once again, thanks Ken Holland for years of sitting back doing nothing and not having a plan in place for when Nick retired...thanks buddy!

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I have an idea for a fun game. Everyone guess a) which Wing will score first b) who will get the first assists c) which month it will happen in

This team is more than just a defender short.

Well at least I has beer.

Well like any good parent and fan would do I`m going to leave this game on as background noise and engage in a epic game of mini stick hockey with my 4 year old......oh and drink whisky.

HOW TO BEAT THE RED WINGS: Skate fast and hit hard.

Cleary, please break your leg again...we're better off when you're on IR it seems.....

Franzen is garbage. Zero forecheck & then he is flatfooted in the defensive end.

I'm waiting for the Benny Hill theme music.

Holland is a genius for getting Quincey for cheap. Good replacement for Rafalski right? esteef

Haha Quincey is a joke. Man I'm done trying to defend him. He is absoutely awful.

Anyone who thought our D wasn't going to be a mess was kidding themselves. I admit, I was trying to be optimistic as time went on too, but let's get real, losing Rafalski, Stuart and Lidstrom is just a huge blow, especially when you add nothing even remotely comparable to even Stuart. But we talk about that and we don't often talk about the fact that great players like Lidstrom make the guys around them better. So what are these guys going to look like without the Lidstrom-bonus magic skill points? Well, I guess we are starting to really figure that out. I can't imagine that Holland isn't shifting in his seat tonight, and can't imagine Babcock doesn't want to strangle him right now either.

Honestly need to split Z and Dats up ASAP. and trade for a half decent dman. i think the evaluation process on our d is over.

is this the feeling the islanders fans feel every game?

How do you let 2 guys get behind you on a PK? Good game by Jimmy. Glad they pulled him though. He doesn't need to get shelled any more than he already has.

Did we not see this coming? Holland did nothing to replace those that left. He picked up scraps that nobody wanted. Brunner might be able to make it in this league if he has some size on his line but the DZB 1st line is getting pushed around like they are kids by the Blues. Mule looks like the lazy sob he was last year, Cleary can not stand up and takes dumb ass penalties when he does, and don't even get me started on the D as they ******* suck. Howard is playing his ass off as usual and appears to be the only Wing that has any heart. Emmerton and Mursak don't belong in the NHL period. Abby and Tootoo are to afraid to go out and kick some ass. Ken Holland and co s*** the bed this off season by not making this team better. I know they did try but their job IS to make it better or fail. They failed. Every team in their division is better, yes even CBJ and the Red Wings are not and in fact they are going backwards. This is just one game and not worth throwing in the towel yet but I think we have been so happy to get hockey back that we have forgot the hole that this team was left after last year.

Wasn't arguing with you really, and I've heard rumblings about that too, I just think it's a little silly given the effort these guys have been giving for awhile. Franzen's been floating for way too long and if Babcock loses something with the players after a Cup win and another Cup appearance in the first couple years to follow that, and the players look lazy and old, I'm personally going to side with the coach. And sure, no one's Scotty Bowman, but I just remember plenty of talk about Bowman losing his way with the players too, and I remember guys getting booted out if they were unwilling to work. He had that clout, and he had the GM power most of his time here, which was great. To me, I look at these guys and I say they're all professionals getting paid a ton of money to go out and play a game. Even if the coach is truly a joke and they don't like him, they need to be out giving 100%. There's no excuses for not doing that in the NHL. So even if Babcock isn't getting the message across these days, he's not the only one that should get the boot if it comes to that as far as I'm concerned. Not by a long-shot. And maybe these guys are playing lazier as well because they've learned that it's next to impossible to get traded when you're a Red Wing and highly likely that you'll get re-signed despite a mediocre effort.

Anyone else wish we "overpaid" for a quality player?

What a shame for the Griffins....

unacceptable....very unacceptable. Players that do not belong: Emmerton, Mursak, Franzen, Quincey. The rest of the team is playing like garbage. In reference to an above poster, I am not ok with losing to this team. I don't care if they are the best in the West. Right now, the Wings aren't even playing with the best team. I am not even going to blame it on rust. The Blues look mid season form, Red Wings look like soft Euros...