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An aging vet who falls down a lot but plays fearless, does the dirty work, and is all heart, yet in spite of that people act like he's total garbage and can't wait to kick him off the team? hmm... that sounds strangely familiar.

The dudes agent totally ruined Brunner's chances for a decent contract anywhere. He over played his hand and now Brunner is still sitting outside the circle with two weeks till training camp. Someone will snag him but it wont be for more than a 2 mil one year deal

There is a thread for this in the Griffins forum, but since no-one goes there, and no-one has seemingly seen it, I hope the mods allow this thread to remain. The Griffins did an HBO 24/7 style "behind the benches" series of videos for each round of their playoff run, which are frankly amazing. The production values are incredible and they offer a fascinating insight. The links are for the 2 videos from the finals, but all the previous rounds are linked beneath the videos. Several things spring to mind watching them. Blashill is mini-Babcock. Very cool and proffesional. Ferraro has a mouth and an agitating style to match Maltby, and drops the gloves to boot. Tatar is a VERY confident individual, borderline arrogance and I can see why he rubs some Wings fans the wrong way. He's going to really wind the opposition up. The importance of the veterans on that team. Some round here would I think like every player on the Griffins to be under-21, but its clear guys like Hoggan and Grant were hugely important on and off the ice. Best line of the series - Triston Grant on being complimented on his playoff beard "Thanks, I have my mothers genes"

I'd say the big difference is Holmstrom was a specialist. No one could do what he could do, even when he was at the end of his career. Cleary? We like his..."veteran leadership." Unless you're talking about Alfredsson?

they are now!

It's funny, given how many perfectionists here were pissed that he was on the team at all in his last two seasons.

Our 4th line has been awful for several seasons. Look at the series against Anaheim, where their 4th line was a huge advantage for them. Ours did nothing in that series. Teams that win the Cup typically have a 4th line that contributes greatly throughout the run. It shouldn't just be a place to stack leftover players. It should have identity and purpose, namely an energy line that sparks the teams and has guys with grit, size and preferably fighting ability. A 4th line of Miller-Helm-Samuelsson isn't much of a 4th line.

Ah yes..... if only the newer (garbage) playoff model of MAF had come along a little bit sooner....

That's what I said. Belarusians.

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