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In the final analysis, Carlyle just couldn't make the toast in Toronto.

I think Bab's is pulling the sports psychology long-con. No matter what Weiss does, it's not good enough. Oh you scored 2 goals? Call me when you score 3, 4, 5 etc. Then one day, just when Weiss can't grit his teeth and fight for it at 110% on the 4th line any longer, Zetterberg and Datsyuk both go down with injuries. It's time. First shift on the 1st line Weiss goes coast to coast, performs a triple sow cow, and then rockets the mother of all slappers into the goalies logo pushing the goalie and the puck into the back of the net. Babs lights a cigar behind the bench. At least that's how the colorful story book in my head plays out.

That's the saddest thing about the Weiss situation IMO. This time two months ago we were all clamoring on about how "done" he was. He faced some adversity with his health, and did/said all the right things to get himself back on the roster. AND THEN he produced. So, within this context, I would loooooove to know what he's doing wrong, or more specifically, what someone like Franzen is doing better.

Someone must have watched the Canadian Jrs win last night and thought "wow you can win in this building"

Bylsma is the right guy for that job. It's a team built for offense, and he's won a Cup with a team built for offense. If they get a guy like Babs they're going to have to spend the next three seasons (or so) trying to restructure the roster.

There has been talk of Babcock in Toronto, but just talk, certainly nothing of substance behind it. This firing doesn't make me think it's any more likely though, makes me think the opposite actually. If the plan was really in place to try and bring Babcock in as coach, you'd think they'd keep Randy for the rest of the year and then replace him in the off-season. Now, they will need to bring in someone else, who I'm sure wouldn't be planned to just be around for half a season.

Mikey your GDTs have been excellent this year. Keep up the good work, your efforts as always are appreciated. LGW!

Carlyle didn't compete hard enough

Jesus, please let Babcock go to Toronto. Then he can put Kessel on the fourth line, Phaneuf can play 27 minutes a night because he's "heavy", and a their shutdown line of Bozak-Pannik-Clarkson will be an example to the league on how to suppress shots. All associated with MLSE, the Toronto Press, and Maple Leafs nation will back slap themselves silly and marvel at Babcock's genius. They will lose every other game 2-1, of course.

I know. I'm basically just baiting him because I know how much he loves Smith. Sorry to involve you in my Machiavellian scheming. And sorry to you krsmith17, it's just too fun screwing with you about Riley's brother.

Jurco will still be fine. He's 21. By 24 he'll be doing what Abdelkader is doing now. By 27 he'll be around 50-60 pts. a year...and physical. Everything we hoped Franzen would turn out to be. Jurco is a big kid, but always played a skilled game. He's basically learning how to be a power forward, but learning in the NHL rather than Juniors or AHL. It's a steep learning curve. Abby had the same one. Jurco is already an excellent passer, once he learns how to score in tight, his production will explode.

Canada ain't joking around tonight. 2-0 in the first 3 minutes! GO CANADA!

You know what's extra annoying? This video where Babcock talks about Weiss and extolls him to "score, score, score" in order to help the team. So then Weiss does. And then Babs benches him.

God Bless Matt and his family! He really provided all of us with unlimited information! Sad to see the site go (RWC as well.) We lose nothing without those two sites, but if we lost Matt, the world would lose an exceptional human being, and this world is running low on those, the world needs Matt, we can do without Capgeek. Get Well Soon!

That may be true. I certainly won't argue, as Holland's approach to prospect development has worked excellently in the past. But it should be noted that prior to the season opener Babcock said he wanted Jurco on the team, and he has consistently praised his play. So this is a case where Holland is screwed either way. If he doesn't leave Jurco on the big club, then everyone complains that this is just like when he left Nyquist (and now Ouellet) down despite Babcock's wishes. If he does bring him up then he doesn't get the development that he probably ought to. Also, as an aside, it also means that Cleary would likely have played more. Which everyone would crucify Holland for as well. So I'm not going to get too bent out of shape for it either way.

C'mon boys, if you don't win this one I'm going to be climbing the glass and punching a player or two.

Helene St James? Stupid. No way. I can prove it. Check out this awesome article she just wrote about how great Quincey is: http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2015/01/05/detroit-red-wings-kyle-quincey/21311315/ See? That’s hard-nosed, gritty, cut through the crap journalism at it’s finest.

Babcock on Weiss: http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2015/01/red_wings_tomas_jurco_playing.html Babcock said Weiss has been fine, but he must take someone else's minutes. "I think he's battling real hard, now he has to take someone's job," Babcock said. "That's how it is." Unreal. We're playing like garbage, we can't score, and Weiss has to earn more than ten minutes a game? I don't remember Abdelkader having to earn back his ice time after his shoulder injury (the same exact one as Weiss had, but which kept him out longer). Babcock is such a ******* tool. At least Khan finally asked though. I like to think it's because of TheGlistening's friendly prodding lol.

No plans to shut anything down, though I am looking into a new host for the site. Had to hit the Wayback Machine for this one: https://web.archive.org/web/20100109084606/http://www.letsgowings.com/salarychart/index.php I used to block away an hour or so every Sunday night to update that thing by hand. What a monster pain in the butt that was. Matt Wuest got his automated on CapGeek and I thought it far better to save my hour(s) and, eventually, help out on the CG user interfaces. Wishing him all the best and a never give up attitude.

It's just so bizarre that no one is even asking. Even if Babcock just glares at you and grunts, you still ask the question. There's a Red Wings player who was brought in to be the 2nd line center on a 5 year $5 million deal and he's on the 4th line getting fewer minutes than any other forward. It's not occurred to any reporter to ask why that is? How big of a mouthpiece for the Red Wings are the local media??

If I was Ken Holland I'd call her office right now and ask "what the f*** Helene"? Why would you speculate about a players' trade value, and fuel subsequent rumors, while he's playing the best hockey of anyone on the team? I've always thought Helene St. James was stupid. But this is seriously next level stupidity. It's like if stupidity went super saiyan.