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We get it. You don't like fighting, but some of us do.

Worth it just for that. In fact number9 is actually Kenny Holland trolling everyone.

Hey guys, figured it was time to make a dedicated thread for any and all arena construction updates since there didn't seem to be one. For anyone that does not know, I have a drone and I live in the Detroit area. I have been flying by the new arena site and getting photo/video of the progress. You can see it all here: http://wingsarena.tumblr.com Link to the Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9RDX3GJygvqrMxq0GpkL0Q I will try to be at least somewhat regular about posting updates. Especially once construction really starts rolling. For the most part its just a big hole in the ground right now. If anyone else has construction photos/videos or if you find articles on the construction, post it all here.

Done by year/era and YES, the Wings Avs rivalry as they see it ran the longest of any of the heavyweight rivalries. OMG, so many great fight and brawl clips mixed with some good writing: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-heavyweight-belt-of-nhl-rivalries/ (Love the top picture lol)

I don't follow this type of Internet sports journalism so I'm not familiar with the standards, but shouldn't the author be citing or referencing a source? I mean, what's the point of this article otherwise? The Red Wings MIGHT still sign Dan Cleary? Ok, an article stating they might not sign him would be just as valid and just as pointless.

Ahh yes. I forgot he was bought out. Makes sense then.

I will be one of them. Dear god, this guy has got to start living in reality. It's not 2009 anymore... It's been what, 4 years since he's been any sort of useful? He's already been given 2 charity contracts (which is just something that should never ever happen if you're serious about putting together a competitive team). I'm sure at one point he was a good 'locker room guy', but I can't see any way in which his behavior over the past few seasons could have been good for morale, especially for the younger guys. I'm sure watching a guy, with no production whatsoever, collect a paycheck just for showing up and going through the motions at practices is a great example to set I don't even want him on the Griffins. In fact, I don't even want him with the organization in any capacity anymore. GO AWAY DAN!!! GO AWAY!

They're not. Used to be a rivalry grew from intense competition that left blood on the ice, literally and figuratively. Now it's just whatever team is playing on Wednesday night.