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Truth. Staal will also be a really good mentor for the kids. His body might not be able to do what it used to, but he was a very detail oriented dman.

Most of those players either won't be re-signed, will be healthy scratched, in Grand Rapids, or just aren't as good as Gagner. Never mind all of the other junk that Yzerman didn't sign, that he will likely try to get rid of over the next couple seasons. Gagner is a solid bottom six forward on a great contract. Looking at this signing in a vacuum, there's literally nothing not to like. If you want to lump it in with all of Holland's bad signings, that's not really fair to Yzerman...

I hoped, rather than expected. Getting a little sick of watching trash. I usually don't get too wrapped up in the record. I find rebuilding a lot more fun than those 2011-2015 teams that were gradually declining with the same s***ting lineups. But it's hard to get excited about a season when you know, before the season even starts, that they already intend to tank. Especially this season because it feels like FOREVER since I've seen the team play, and now on top of it when I finally do see them I know in advance that 2/3 of the roster will be old, mediocre, puds. "Hey Red Wings fans, you excited about a new season?". Well let us throw cold water on that by reminding you that any given night you're going to see Helm, Abby, Nielsen, Filppula, Gagner, Glendening, Dekeyser, and Nemeth. Boy howdy! It's miserable that the most exciting thing to happen to his team in two years is finding out that Robby Fabbri doesn't absolutely suck. Yippy. Edit: On top of that we're about to draft Cole Perfetti, who is about 4 years away from hitting puberty, so god only knows when/if he'll be an exciting new part of the Red Wings roster.

Gagner signed to a one year deal. Don't know the deets yet.

I'd say #3 or 4. He's not very good anymore. Injuries caught up to him. Sd and Hronek will be clear first pair. Maybe Staal and seider make up second pair. Still an improvement compared to last year.

Stevie starting to use that cap space. Also got a dman that is an improvement over guys like big rig and Daley.

Moar moves Acquired Marc Staal and a second for future considerations

We’re not buying out abdelkader , send him to the minors and be done with it or eat 50% and pray someone else takes him and sends another 2 mill problem our way filppula or helm wont be bought out with one year deals , theyll be part of our lacklustre trade deadline bait to go along with gagner and nemeth . Think we hang on to nielsen one more year and eat half his salary next season which will be 1.5 actual dollars and send his 5 mill cap hit to a team who doesnt want to spend money I like the 18 pts part

Markstrom has been much better than Howard in all but one of the past six seasons, and is 6 years younger. But yeah, it totally makes sense to look at their stats over their entire careers. Never mind what they've done recently. What really matters is what Howard did when he was in his prime...

Why buying out any of them, when you can afford to put them in your farm team to help develop your youngsters, like Dan cleary did.

" The Red Wings hope McIsaac will take a big develop step while on loan to Finnish club HPK, after being limited to 28 games last season following shoulder surgery. The plan is to have the first-year pro finish the season in Grand Rapids if there is an AHL season. He is a two-way defenseman who moves the puck well, competes hard, plays physical and can play in all situations. " https://www.mlive.com/redwings/2020/09/ranking-detroit-red-wings-prospects-nos-6-10.html I read somewhere else as well that he is on loan for the season, whereas the others are on loan till tc starts. I try to find that article. found it https://www.mlive.com/redwings/2020/09/red-wings-defense-prospect-jared-mcisaac-loaned-to-finnish-club-for-2020-21-season.html

I agree with most of this... but I think Nemeth and Ganger have value to us on the roster and at the trade deadline. I'm really not into Perfetti at 4... to me he seems like a player you take if you moved way up in the draft. You've got a decent team that can afford to wait those 4 years. I also think he has that boom or bust thing going.

Yes, the are on loan till TC starts, only McIsaac is on loan for the full season fun fact: The team Ras is going to play for, is the same team Rossi is playing for

Except Zadina's 1/3 of one season was actually good. Your comparison forgets that there is no actual legit reason to write off Zadina at all in the first place. Well, that's certainly one way to look at it.

Sweet. Another year of rock bottom. Can't wait.

Well, "we've not seen anything to date" that would indicate he's a bust either. Again, I keep reverting to facts here, but 8G 15 points in 28 for a 20 year old rookie ain't bad at all.

Uhm... that's pretty typical when comparing a player at the beginning of the career and another at the end. Generally speaking, goalies (or any skaters) don't improve after 35 years old. In fact, a very bad year is usually a sign that their career is coming to an end. No question that Zadina has a much better chance at outperforming 2019-2020 than Howard. No matter what you think of Z's skills, it is just a fact that potential is higher when you're younger than when you're older.

Your belief that a lack of black or native players in the NHL has anything to do with racism is just wrong. If you offered free equipment, training, and coaching to 100 random black kids, they would overwhelmingly choose basketball and football over sports like hockey. That's not racism, it's culture. Certain groups of people prefer certain sports. Its a choice, not discrimination. In sports like hockey or baseball, the number of black players is low in comparison to the general population. True. But the percentage of black players in basketball and football is significantly higher than the general population. In reality, if you were to tally the number of individuals playing professional sports overall, you would find that the percentages of each race are similar to the general population. Systemic racism in sports, hockey, or the NHL, is a myth. Blacks are generously represented among professional athletes. The fact that percentages are higher in some sports and lower in others is due to culture and choice for the most part. To say that certain sports are "racist" based on demographics would be like accusing manufacturers of racism because their products are more popular among certain races than others. Our culture affects what products we buy, what food we eat, what sports we play. Not everything is about race.

>Ken Holland traded to Detroit for a 2021 1st round pick >Yzerman pulls a Robert California and convinces Melnyk to give him complete control of over all of his assets.

>Yzerman replaces Dorion

>Yzerman leaks rumors to pressure the Sens >Dorion ends up taking Drysdale at #3 >One of Byfield/Stutzle becomes available at #4 >Yzerman drafts Askarov