jollymania 162 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Thinking there should be a thread for this as the season winds down, Dallas now in the 3rd position, SJ is in 9th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 It must suck being a SJ fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 It must suck being a SJ fan. they do have fewer gp, but still just think if the wings were in that position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Dallas isn't even that good and yet they're 3rd. So if we play them in the playoffs with a better record who will have home ice? Providing we don't win our division that is. Edited March 7, 2012 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Dallas isn't even that good and yet they're 3rd. So if we play them in the playoffs with a better record who will have home ice? they would, the 3rd place team would if the wings end up in 6th. sj about ot dip to 10th after the avs win, they are currently tied with edmonton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 they would, the 3rd place team would if the wings end up in 6th. sj about ot dip to 10th after the avs win, they are currently tied with edmonton. The league should change that rule. A team should not have home ice over another team which finished ahead of it. Especially in this case, it would be a wide margin of points. I remember the NBA having a rule (maybe they still do), where a 3 seed would sometimes have home court over a 2 seed, depending on who had a better record. they would, the 3rd place team would if the wings end up in 6th. sj about ot dip to 10th after the avs win, they are currently tied with edmonton. I meant in the second or third round actually. If they're a 3 seed and we're a 4 seed. Who would have home ice then? 1 T-Ruff reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 The league should change that rule. A team should not have home ice over another team which finished ahead of it. Especially in this case, it would be a wide margin of points. I remember the NBA having a rule (maybe they still do), where a 3 seed would sometimes have home court over a 2 seed, depending on who had a better record. I meant in the second or third round actually. If they're a 3 seed and we're a 4 seed. Who would have home ice then? always the higher seed in the current nhl format Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeonardSankar 434 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 All I know is finishing 4th in the Conference will not get us a Cup! 1 Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) All I know is finishing 4th in the Conference will not get us a Cup! You don't know, you assume. I remember a 7th seed Flyers making it to the finals not too long ago. Albeit they didn't win, they got close. Having said that, I'd much rather the Wings take the Central. Edited March 7, 2012 by rrasco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 All I know is finishing 4th in the Conference will not get us a Cup! I would love to hear the logic in this one, what does finishing 4th, 1st or 8th have to do with getting on a roll and winning 16 games? 1 Jaymister reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 I would love to hear the logic in this one, what does finishing 4th, 1st or 8th have to do with getting on a roll and winning 16 games? You have to win the Pres' trophy to win the cup. Duh! 2 55fan and Jasper84 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Could care less where the Wings finish. Sure home ice throughout the playoffs would be nice but if they can't get win on the road and PP doesn't improve then..........yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 All I know is finishing 4th in the Conference will not get us a Cup! 2009 Pittsburgh Penguins. 3 haroldsnepsts, PavelValerievichDatsyuk and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeonardSankar 434 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 2009 Pittsburgh Penguins. Yea for them not our guys who can't win on the road. I would love to hear the logic in this one, what does finishing 4th, 1st or 8th have to do with getting on a roll and winning 16 games? The problem with finishing 4th or lower means you have to start a series or two on the road and that pretty much automatically puts the Wings in an 0-2 hole! Aside from 2010 against the Coyotes who haven't won a playoff series in forever you have to go all the way back to 1998 when the Wings last won a series where they didn't have home ice advantage. In 97 & 98 they didn't need home ice all the way through b/c they used to have all the time before and never won the Cup so they stopped putting much emphasis on regular season standings but since then they need the #1 seed to get them the Cup e.g. 02 & 08. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrasco 1,312 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 If we end up 4th seed and seeds 6, 7, and 8 win their series, we have home ice at least until the finals. I'm just saying it's possible, so quit saying it's not. We are around .500 on the road, so even without home ice, that doesn't 'automatically put us in a 0-2 hole'. It means we could be 1-1, 0-2, or even 2-0. That's why they play the games, because any team can win on any given night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Im very impressed at the job the guys down in Dallas have been doing. After losing Richards, I dont think many gave them a chance. They brought in guys that were considered cast offs, secondary players or spare parts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeonardSankar 434 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 If we end up 4th seed and seeds 6, 7, and 8 win their series, we have home ice at least until the finals. I'm just saying it's possible, so quit saying it's not. We are around .500 on the road, so even without home ice, that doesn't 'automatically put us in a 0-2 hole'. It means we could be 1-1, 0-2, or even 2-0. That's why they play the games, because any team can win on any given night. Without home ice they are not beating the Canucks and that's a fact. They may also not beat St.Loser without home and even with home ice they are still not safe as the Preds, Hawks, Blues & Canucks can all beat this flawed Wings team in the playoffs. Just like the 2010 & 2011 Wings playoff teams this is just as flawed! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Without home ice they are not beating the Canucks and that's a fact. Thats a fact? Anyway... If the wings hold serve at home, all they need to do is win just one game on the road. .500 is not red wing standard, but it also demonstrates that we win enough to be able to take at least one of four in someone else's building. 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Home good. Road bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,359 Report post Posted March 8, 2012 I have no problem with the Sharks missing the playoffs. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 8, 2012 Without home ice they are not beating the Canucks and that's a fact. They may also not beat St.Loser without home and even with home ice they are still not safe as the Preds, Hawks, Blues & Canucks can all beat this flawed Wings team in the playoffs. Just like the 2010 & 2011 Wings playoff teams this is just as flawed! That is your opinion and is not fact until it actually happens. You have to be mindfly. I've never seen somebody on here so down in the dumps and doom and gloom about everything. (No I'm not saying he's not a fan or what not, he cares and everybody in here cares about the team, I hate when people go that route, just getting really tired of this damned negativity and over the top pessimism not by just him but in general in here lately) 1 MidMichSteve reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted March 8, 2012 As long as Vancouver has Luongo, all of Detroit's goals are attainable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,359 Report post Posted March 9, 2012 Sharks lose again in OT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stinky fish taco Report post Posted March 9, 2012 so detroit finishes 4th/5th and plays nashville? and radulov is coming back? that series would be 50/50 at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted March 10, 2012 so detroit finishes 4th/5th and plays nashville? and radulov is coming back? that series would be 50/50 at best. No, it really wouldn't. Nashville is not Detroit. Even if they get Radulov, who would have to become acclimated to the system in time for the playoffs to start, they would not scare me if we had home ice. People love to overrate Nashville every season. But they just don't have it. 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
