Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Laughing out loud I think so too. Wonder why NBC hasn't put some pressure into getting a FAIR deal done? They've paid the NHL millions of $ and yet they aren't getting anything out of it t his season. How does it work? Would every lost broadcast just be an unequivocal disaster (i.e. total loss, total waste of money) for NBC? Or is there some kind of, I dunno, escape clause or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 How does it work? Would every lost broadcast just be an unequivocal disaster (i.e. total loss, total waste of money) for NBC? Or is there some kind of, I dunno, escape clause or something? Doesn't sound like there is, but I'm not sure. Everything I've read makes it sound like the owners get paid $200 million from NBC even if there is no hockey. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2012/08/nhl_owners_will_receive_200_mi.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Doesn't sound like there is, but I'm not sure. Everything I've read makes it sound like the owners get paid $200 million from NBC even if there is no hockey. http://www.mlive.com...ive_200_mi.html That just doesn't make sense to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 That just doesn't make sense to me Sam here I mean what is the point of paying 200 m but not receiving anything? I think there must be some 'out-clauses' or stuff like that otherwhise it would be completely bogus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Doesn't sound like there is, but I'm not sure. Everything I've read makes it sound like the owners get paid $200 million from NBC even if there is no hockey. http://www.mlive.com...ive_200_mi.html Which would give the owners even more leverage during the lockout. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Methinks there was a "special clause" addressed when the League and NBC entered into their most recent contract, dealing with the "possibility" of a lockout. Might make for a nice case of collusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 I was going to watch Grand Rapids anyway. At least now it won't be just me and Newfy watching it on redwingslive!...hopefully Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Coming to a theatre near you...maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 That just doesn't make sense to me If you read the article it says they would add an additional year at the end. The owners would get their money now, but nothing for the last year. But I'm sure $200M (plus anything they still make from sponsors and merchandise) isn't close to enough to cover all the expenses anyway. Stadium leases, debt payments, any remaining staff that keeps working, unemployment for any staff laid off, and I'm sure that some percentage of any revenue earned will still eventually have to go to players in some form... If there's an extended lockout every owner is still going to lose a lot of money, and that's not even counting potential loss of future revenue. That's why I don't think this lockout will last that long. I still have a little hope that we won't lose any games, though more realistically I'd guess we'll lose 20 or so. Much more than that and too many people will be losing too much money. Unlike the last lockout, where the league as a whole was in the red and even the profitable teams weren't making much, almost 1/3rd of owners stood to make $10M+ in profits this year and will be looking at huge losses instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Thanks for the link, hs. I agree with you, Buppy. There's a clock on this thing. It's not going to claim the entire season, probably won't claim more than ten games, if that. (IMHO) "And it won't be long / No, it won't be long / Because it can't be long" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 5 dirtydangles, Namingway, evilmrt and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 You think the likes of Phoenix is bleeding cash now? Lock the players out again...we'll be back down to 24 teams in the NHL. Bettman = Worst thing to happen to professional sports. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Absolutely agree. Although, Mr. Ilitch probably won't get even most of what he wants out of this CBA. LOL @ the "you're such good friends with Bettman, why don't you call him?" comment 1 Namingway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Obligatory "Think of the children!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted September 15, 2012 Wow. I honestly had not even thought of the charities. The players and the league both contribute quite a bit both individually and as a group. Maybe this would be the solution: Instead of arguing 57/43 vs 50/50 or other numbers, maybe we should be going x/x/10 with the 10 going to charity. Both sides might be willing to give a little if they knew that the money wasn't going to the other side, but to a charity. It wouldn't solve the other points, but it would be a starting point. I still think that the league wants to lock out this season so the players will be more willing to give up Sochi next year just to have a season to play. 2 Dabura and WizardOfOz30 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Daly told TSN, "We talked with the Union this morning and in light of the fact that they have nothing new to offer, or any substantive response to our last proposal, there would be nothing gained by convening a bargaining session at this time. I'm sure that we will remain in contact in the coming days."Steve Fehr, special counsel for the NHLPA, told TSN, "Today we suggested that the parties meet in advance of the owners' self-imposed deadline of midnight tonight. Don Fehr, myself and several players on the Negotiating Committee were in the city and prepared to meet. The NHL said that it saw no purpose in having a formal meeting. There have been and continue to be private, informal discussions between representatives of both sides." http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=405331 The deadline is expected to pass without any formal announcement. The season will apparently die a slow, quiet death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=405331 The deadline is expected to pass without any formal announcement. The season will apparently die a slow, quiet death. This thing keeps getting better and better thanks to an absolutely insulting starting offer. I really don't expect any NLL hockey this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray40 2 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 If feels like I'm watching the clock like it's a countdown to the end of the world. I know that sounds somewhat stupid but I love my hockey addiction lol. I haven't seen any tv coverage in my area neither local and national. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Lockout officially underway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Well, I guess it starts now, with a whimper. Mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChelisChick 174 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Excuse me while I cry. This already sucks and it's only a few minutes old!!!! 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datterberg1340 626 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 well here we are again I hope the NHLPA gets the idea out of their heads that they'll actually 'win' the lockout, the owners will get pretty much what they want in the end, that's what happened last time and it will happen again all the players are really doing is prolonging the inevitable and wasting possibly a whole year of their careers in the process it's a sad situation, but the rich will always lose out to the even richer 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChelisChick 174 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Well, I guess it starts now, with a whimper. Mine. We will drown our sorrows together with the help of the Nashville Hilton and raspberry lemon drop martinis. 3 puckloo39, WizardOfOz30 and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegerkin 189 Report post Posted September 16, 2012 I'm just straight-up pissed. Complete black mark against hockey that hockey did not need. Yet I'm still a huge fan?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
