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If we win the cup this year...many of you will still hate the Wings and Holland for not making a move this or last year.

No they won't .....all you'll hear is people saying "I told you so". Even the ones that bitched and bitched?

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Can't believe Columbus is now more lucrative and hungrier than the Red Wings.

Holland should step down in the offseason.

How do you know that getting Gaborik will work out?

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How do you know that getting Gaborik will work out?

Doesn't matter.

Point is, they had the balls and initiative to make the move. Took a chance. Columbus of all teams.

Their fans (if they have any) are excited right now, while ours are pissed. The ones not pissed are pointing at the banners and talking about past successes.

I want this franchise to remain great and relevant, not be one that used to be relevant, like Montreal and Chicago all those recent years.

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Doesn't matter.

Point is, they had the balls and initiative to make the move. Took a chance. Columbus of all teams.

Their fans (if they have any) are excited right now, while ours are pissed. The ones not pissed are pointing at the banners and talking about past successes.

I want this franchise to remain great and relevant, not be one that used to be relevant, like Montreal and Chicago all those recent years.

umm, not really. They hate losing Dorsett. And Brassard is currently tearing it up with New York tonight.

New York might have became a better team.

Gaborik also has a ton of injury history, how do you think we'd be feeling right now if his back/hip/groin started to act up?

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umm, not really. They hate losing Dorsett. And Brassard is currently tearing it up with New York tonight.

New York might have became a better team.

Gaborik also has a ton of injury history, how do you think we'd be feeling right now if his back/hip/groin started to act up?

He'd fit right in.

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Lol, after all the moves the pens made, all these big splashes, and the past two games they've been outscored 9-2 so far. Sometimes its better to stand pat lol

Lol.

And Clowe scored his first and 2nd goals of the season against them tonight in Clowe's first game as a Rag

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umm, not really. They hate losing Dorsett. And Brassard is currently tearing it up with New York tonight.

New York might have became a better team.

Gaborik also has a ton of injury history, how do you think we'd be feeling right now if his back/hip/groin started to act up?

I'm not saying Columbus will be better then us for the next 5 years, but they're at least sending a message that they want to win. They have a young, hungry GM trying to prove himself. Too early to call these moves or him a disappointment.

Many Wings fans are fed up with Holland and his ennui towards his job. He's basically admitting that we're not all that good. Much of it is his fault.

Columbus has something to "potentially" look forward to, while we're looking forward to either missing the playoffs or getting bounced in the first round. Not to mention, what may happen with Datsyuk in the near future. It sucks.

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Lol, after all the moves the pens made, all these big splashes, and the past two games they've been outscored 9-2 so far. Sometimes its better to stand pat lol

And there's no way that has anything to do with the best hockey player in the world being out in those two games.

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And there's no way that has anything to do with the best hockey player in the world being out in those two games.

I don't buy that excuse. They did just fine the past two years without him, plus they have enough fire power they should not get blown out like that with the depth they have. This just like the rangers

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I don't buy that excuse. They did just fine the past two years without him, plus they have enough fire power they should not get blown out like that with the depth they have. This just like the rangers

To be fair, with all the new pieces the pens have acquired, it will take them a few games to learn how to play together.

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I don't buy that excuse. They did just fine the past two years without him, plus they have enough fire power they should not get blown out like that with the depth they have. This just like the rangers

No excuses needed, it happens to the best of teams.

Chicago allowed 12 goals to Colorado and Edmonton in the 2 games after their streak ended.

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I don't buy that excuse. They did just fine the past two years without him, plus they have enough fire power they should not get blown out like that with the depth they have. This just like the rangers

You're gasping at straws here. They're built for the playoff run give them time to gel, or don't who gives a ****. Are you using this as a basis that adding roster players at the trading deadline doesn't work? Are you forgetting Brad Stuart, Chelios, and Shanny?

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You're gasping at straws here. They're built for the playoff run give them time to gel, or don't who gives a ****. Are you using this as a basis that adding roster players at the trading deadline doesn't work? Are you forgetting Brad Stuart, Chelios, and Shanny?

No I'm saying going crazy isn't always a good thing, especially when you are messing with the chemistry of a team that's ripping up the league

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No I'm saying going crazy isn't always a good thing, especially when you are messing with the chemistry of a team that's ripping up the league

Where did the Penguins go crazy? Besides a 28-30th pick they didn't give up anything of note. Joe Morrow is the only notable prospect and they're loaded with better defensive prospects anyway.

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I agree with this. Shero will look stupid if they get bounced early.

They got bounced early last year with the exact same team that went streaking. Being a powerhouse in the regular season means nothing if you aren't built for a 7 game series. As Wings fans this should hit close to home.

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For every one saying Holland lacked the "balls" to do anything, I've already posted this but:

“We offered some of (prospects). At the end of the day someone didn’t like them as much as we do or they liked someone else’s players better.”

He made an effort to acquire someone. Other teams outbid him. Maybe it's not a matter of him not making an effort, but a matter of our prospects not being viewed as highly as someone else's? If Holland moved Nyquist, Mrazek and a 1st and 2nd to get Pominville, would you be happy? I'd be pissed off.

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I really am glad that Holland didn't spend picks or prospects to bring in Gaborik. He is injury prone and isn't worth his 7.5 million dollar cap hit. Pomminville was the only guy I would even consider, and he isn't a top 6 winger like the Wings need. Boumeester isn't worth it either.

One of two things are going to happen.....

Either the Wings fall flat on their faces in the next couple years, fade away from playoff contention, Holland gets fired, and the collective whiners here will yell I told you so and sprint off to the Penguins forum board to become new fans....

Or....

The Wings will retool and rebuild over the course of the next couple years, and return younger and stronger in a couple years. They will be in a better position to win a cup then, so the collective whiners will stick around and cheer their team on.

Either way, its a win/win for me. This forum really does need an enema. For too long, Wings fans have been gifted with high caliber teams and 4 Stanley Cups. The Wings fans are spoiled. Hell, I know I am. You can thank the NHL for making league parity a top concern. No longer can teams try to buy a cup. The salary cap has leveled the playing field. To expect a team to compete for the cup every year is ludicrous. Making the playoffs should be the new benchmark now. Once your team gets in, then anything can happen.

At this point, I am going to support the Wings as they work to make the playoffs. I call on every Wings fan to do the same thing. Stand behind your team. Stand behind your Wings management. Its that simple.



For every one saying Holland lacked the "balls" to do anything, I've already posted this but:

“We offered some of (prospects). At the end of the day someone didn’t like them as much as we do or they liked someone else’s players better.”

He made an effort to acquire someone. Other teams outbid him. Maybe it's not a matter of him not making an effort, but a matter of our prospects not being viewed as highly as someone else's? If Holland moved Nyquist, Mrazek and a 1st and 2nd to get Pominville, would you be happy? I'd be pissed off.

Hell, I would be really pissed if Holland offered that. Pomminville isn't worth that.

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