dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted November 13, 2013 we need weisser. these last games without him have shown that he has filled a role despite not scoring (due to cleary mostly). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted November 13, 2013 This team is loaded with players who play well but can't score. They need someone who can score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted November 13, 2013 Here's to hoping Weiss returns looking like this: I honestly think the number 90 is cursed atm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted November 13, 2013 Yeah we definitely need him. Our depth down the middle is pretty bad when we load up Z and D. Honestly our 2nd line looked great tonight, but Helm is ideal as 3rd line C. At some point when Holland decides to do his job, this is what I'd like to see: Z-D-Bert Nyquist-Weiss-Alfie Franzen-Helm-Tatar Miller-Glendening-Abdelkader Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted November 13, 2013 Yeah we definitely need him. Our depth down the middle is pretty bad when we load up Z and D. Honestly our 2nd line looked great tonight, but Helm is ideal as 3rd line C. At some point when Holland decides to do his job, this is what I'd like to see: Z-D-Bert Nyquist-Weiss-Alfie Franzen-Helm-Tatar Miller-Glendening-Abdelkader YES THANK YOU. This is ideal. I think its more likely we see Andersson in the 4th line slot but I think Glendening is better suited for the crash and bang of 4th line duty. Then we just need Babs to stop ******* with the lines for a few games to generate some regularity and chemistry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted November 13, 2013 Here's to hoping Weiss returns looking like this: I honestly think the number 90 is cursed atm... looks like hes a devil killer with the occasional rebound goal 2 Namingway and dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 looks like hes a devil killer with the occasional rebound goal My concern is that he can only score rebound goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWang 422 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 I did some youtubin of him he seems to have some scoring talent. Problem being we havent seen it thus far this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 I did some youtubin of him he seems to have some scoring talent. Problem being we havent seen it thus far this season. He was definitely looking better before getting hurt, hope it won't be a setback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 I did some youtubin of him he seems to have some scoring talent. Problem being we havent seen it thus far this season. I think part of it has to do with our system. Babs likes to keep guys not named Z and Dats on a leash. Once Weiss gains confidence in his ability to function defensively in our system the scoring will come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 I think part of it has to do with our system. Babs likes to keep guys not named Z and Dats on a leash. Once Weiss gains confidence in his ability to function defensively in our system the scoring will come. this. Weiss clearly was uncomfortable with our system, both defensively and offensively, and he said as much during interviews. Every game he is looking a bit more comfortable out there, holding onto the puck longer, and making a bigger impact in the game. He's been reinventing his game to fit into Babcock's system, and once that transition is complete, he should be the top 6 player we need him to be. 1 Son of a Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lonewuhf 47 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 Just gonna throw fuel on the fire... Fil has as many goals and assists just tonight as Weiss does all season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canadian wings fan 305 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 maaaaan that hurts^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 I think the Wings are really missing Weiss's face off ability especially in the defensive zone. He was really getting comfy in the face offs which helped get puck control right away and not have to chase the puck around. Didn't think I would have said this a month ago but the team misses him, he got hurt just when it felt like he was getting ready to take off. They can't afford to have the injury derail all the progress he made. 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 by the way he was skating he should be back by the Ottawa game this Saturday I would hope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 I think the Wings are really missing Weiss's face off ability especially in the defensive zone. He was really getting comfy in the face offs which helped get puck control right away and not have to chase the puck around. Didn't think I would have said this a month ago but the team misses him, he got hurt just when it felt like he was getting ready to take off. They can't afford to have the injury derail all the progress he made. For sure, he is getting better and more comfortable each week but this roster has more problems than just Weiss being injured. I am looking forward to his comeback - didn't think I would have said that few weeks ago - his return will help for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 All facts aside, TOI, linemates, I dont care, dont bother..Weiss HAS the talent to be an amazing 2nd line, and even decent 1st line center. Weiss came from spending his entire career with a team that has arguably the worst team, the worst coaching, the worst management, the worst ownership. Now he's been catapulted into arguably one of the best teams, with the best coaching, the best management, and the best ownership. Pressure on? Adjustment necessary? I'd expect so.Filppula... that little bugger who I still love with every inch of my Red Wing soul... came from one of the best teams, with arguably the best management, ownership, and coaching. Now he's with a lack luster team that emphasizes offense out of its forwards and he's exploded. Big fish in a small pond? Are any of us really that surprised? He's had that level of offensive upside for years. If you told Zetterberg to play the way Lightning skaters play he'd have a load more points too. Would he be a better hockey player because of it? I personally don't think so.Let's see how things go. I think the lighting's high times will slow soon now that Stamkos is injured and they still have no goalie. We aren't even that far behind and we still can't possibly do worse. No where to go but up! 2 Dabura and jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 All facts aside, TOI, linemates, I dont care, dont bother.. Weiss HAS the talent to be an amazing 2nd line, and even decent 1st line center. Weiss came from spending his entire career with a team that has arguably the worst team, the worst coaching, the worst management, the worst ownership. Now he's been catapulted into arguably one of the best teams, with the best coaching, the best management, and the best ownership. Pressure on? Adjustment necessary? I'd expect so. Filppula... that little bugger who I still love with every inch of my Red Wing soul... came from one of the best teams, with arguably the best management, ownership, and coaching. Now he's with a lack luster team that emphasizes offense out of its forwards and he's exploded. Big fish in a small pond? Are any of us really that surprised? He's had that level of offensive upside for years. If you told Zetterberg to play the way Lightning skaters play he'd have a load more points too. Would he be a better hockey player because of it? I personally don't think so. Let's see how things go. I think the lighting's high times will slow soon now that Stamkos is injured and they still have no goalie. We aren't even that far behind and we still can't possibly do worse. No where to go but up! Agreed on all counts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 Agreed on all counts. Would I rather have Filppula at the moment? Unfortunately yes, however I think Weiss will pay off in the long run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 Yeah we definitely need him. Our depth down the middle is pretty bad when we load up Z and D. Honestly our 2nd line looked great tonight, but Helm is ideal as 3rd line C. At some point when Holland decides to do his job, this is what I'd like to see: Z-D-Bert Nyquist-Weiss-Alfie Franzen-Helm-Tatar Miller-Glendening-Abdelkader Would you be ok with trading Andersson? I think it's something we should consider. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 Would you be ok with trading Andersson? I think it's something we should consider. Unless Andersson doesnt develop. Move Miller, and play Glendening as a right wing. And That's coming from a Spartan, so you know it's good. 2 amato and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 Unless Andersson doesnt develop. Move Miller, and play Glendening as a right wing. And That's coming from a Spartan, so you know it's good. Babcock was talking about this. Not specifically with Miller but he said that he'd move glendening to the wing when helmer got healthy. I'd anticipate down the middle... pasha, Weiss, helmer and andersson. Also, Holland the other night on 97.1 that he'd ideally like to make at least one move but hoping on at least a couple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 I'm not necessarily in favor of moving Andersson. I just feel like space is already tight in the bottom six, and it will probably only get tighter with Sheahan and Ferraro making a push next season. And, re: Glendening moving to the wing, Abdelkader is officially a checker again, and Nyquist might be spending time in the bottom six. I dunno. I just feel like maybe he could help fetch a decent return. Probably not, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 I definitely like the idea of Sheahan and Ferraro on the team ASAP, but I wonder how likely the team would be to move Andy. Babs loves him. I guess we'll have to see who is let go out of the veteran players. I'd be interested to see something like:Z-Dats-AlfieMule-Weiss-Nyquist Tatar-Sheahan/Andy-Abdelkader Miller-Helm-Glendening/Ferraro Scratches: Glendening/Ferraro/Andy/Sheahan This is assuming that guys like Bert, Sammy and Cleary are let go, obviously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted November 19, 2013 Would you be ok with trading Andersson? I think it's something we should consider. I'm with you on this. I really like Andersson, he makes a lot of right decisions on the ice. But if the return fits our needs then sure, why not ? We have enough (potential) bottom six players to compensate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites