LeftWinger 4,908 Report post Posted November 12, 2014 exactly, IMO, Mantha is a non discussion. I think that most of the kids are as well. Screw it. Build from within. If you must trade something, trade a pick for a rental. Within the next two years, players than will not be re-signed and they should be gone IMO (not bashing them, but it's just time for the youth) are: Cleary, Miller, Andersson, Quincey, Kindl, Lashoff and Gustavsson...if they cannot be traded before, then let their contract expire and bid adieu. We have far too much talent in GR to keep behind the curtain anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted November 12, 2014 Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · 8m8 minutes ago Other lines: Nyquist-Zetterberg-Franzen, Tatar-Sheahan-Helm, Miller-Glendening-Andersson. 0 replies2 retweets2 favorites Reply Retweet2 Favorite2 More Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · 9m9 minutes ago Jurco skating on line with Datsyuk and Abdelkader. 0 replies6 retweets5 favorites Reply Retweet6 Favorite5 More Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · 33m33 minutes ago All skaters on the ice today for Wings including Datsyuk, who hopes to return Friday. 0 replies5 retweets9 favorites Reply Retweet5 Favorite9 More Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · 42m42 minutes ago Cleary. Weiss, Nestrasil skating in gray jerseys usually worn by players who'll be scratched. Could mean that Jurco is back in lineup. Jurco on the top line could be interesting... I'm not sure he's earned it but whatever... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted November 12, 2014 Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · 8m8 minutes ago Other lines: Nyquist-Zetterberg-Franzen, Tatar-Sheahan-Helm, Miller-Glendening-Andersson.0 replies2 retweets2 favorites Reply Retweet2 Favorite2 More Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · 9m9 minutes ago Jurco skating on line with Datsyuk and Abdelkader.0 replies6 retweets5 favorites Reply Retweet6 Favorite5 More Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · 33m33 minutes ago All skaters on the ice today for Wings including Datsyuk, who hopes to return Friday.0 replies5 retweets9 favorites Reply Retweet5 Favorite9 More Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive · 42m42 minutes ago Cleary. Weiss, Nestrasil skating in gray jerseys usually worn by players who'll be scratched. Could mean that Jurco is back in lineup. Jurco on the top line could be interesting... I'm not sure he's earned it but whatever... Definitely hasn't earned it, but if anyone can get him going, it datsyuk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted November 12, 2014 Did Datsyuk buy a second piano? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,469 Report post Posted November 12, 2014 Doesn't that put them over the 23 man roster limit? Who will be sent down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmyemeryhunter 2,747 Report post Posted November 12, 2014 Doesn't that put them over the 23 man roster limit? Who will be sent down?MY guess is that Weiss won't be off ir. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted November 12, 2014 MY guess is that Weiss won't be off ir. That would have to be it unless Cleary or Nestrasil are injured. Weiss already said publicly that he feels healthy enough to play Friday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingsallTheway 383 Report post Posted November 13, 2014 I think I like Jurco on the top line ive been waiting to see that. The only thing im concerned about is I know datsyuk is one of his favorite players, its possible he gets star stuck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 14, 2014 Looks like Datsyuk is back tonight. Same lines they've been practicing with the past few days. Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen Abdelkader - Datsyuk - Jurco Tatar - Sheahan - Helm Miller - Glendening - Andersson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,440 Report post Posted November 14, 2014 I'm curious to see how this turns out. I don't think these lines are terrible. If they struggle I'd like to see him flip flop Abby with Franzen, but other than that I like the looks of it (in theory). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 14, 2014 I'd rather see him flip flop Abby with Tatar... and replace Andersson with Cleary... 2 kipwinger and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted November 14, 2014 We gotta try Weiss out soon. I think if Jurco doesn't show his stuff Weiss should get a look. The guy must be beyond frustrated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Weiss isn't a healthy scratch, he is still on injured reserve. I'm sure he is getting beyond frustrated, but it's his lack of being able to stay healthy that he is frustrated with, nothing to do with not getting a shot. He should be ready to go soon enough. I expect him to be cleared to play over the next few days, then he will get sent down to Grand Rapids and play a game or two to continue his conditioning stint down there. Hopefully he will be in the lineup in a week from now... Edited November 14, 2014 by krsmith17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,440 Report post Posted November 14, 2014 I'd rather see him flip flop Abby with Tatar... and replace Andersson with Cleary... Actually I could get on board with that. Except that neither Jurco nor Tatar are great defensively, and I think Babs likes Abby for his shutdown abilities. That said, I also don't think Jurco or Tatar are as bad defensively as they're often made out to be. And their offense w/Dats would surely justify Abby's demotion. p.s. I hate Andersson and wish him the best, as long as he goes away. Give me Mitch Callahan or give me death! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 14, 2014 I've wanted that line together since the beginning of the season. I think Jurco is actually pretty good defensively, he already has great chemistry with Tatar, and Datsyuk is the guy that could get his production jump started. Agree completely on Andersson, I was never on board with him, even when he was producing a little. He is a decent penalty killer but I don't think he would be missed all that much with Glendening, Miller, Abdelkader, Helm, Cleary, etc. He is a turnover machine, and is really struggling to make plays. I don't get why he is still on the roster. I want to see Cleary in the lineup mostly because I'm a huge Cleary fan, but also because he has looked great so far this season. If not Cleary, I would love to see Callahan called up again to see what he can do. I still believe he is going to be a great 4th liner for us as soon as he gets his shot. He is a great penalty killer down in the minors so I think he can definitely translate that to the pros. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted November 14, 2014 I've wanted that line together since the beginning of the season. I think Jurco is actually pretty good defensively, he already has great chemistry with Tatar, and Datsyuk is the guy that could get his production jump started. Agree completely on Andersson, I was never on board with him, even when he was producing a little. He is a decent penalty killer but I don't think he would be missed all that much with Glendening, Miller, Abdelkader, Helm, Cleary, etc. He is a turnover machine, and is really struggling to make plays. I don't get why he is still on the roster. I want to see Cleary in the lineup mostly because I'm a huge Cleary fan, but also because he has looked great so far this season. If not Cleary, I would love to see Callahan called up again to see what he can do. I still believe he is going to be a great 4th liner for us as soon as he gets his shot. He is a great penalty killer down in the minors so I think he can definitely translate that to the pros. I'm somewhat an Anderson fan and I wouldn't mind seeing him go either lol. Not that he isn't good cause he is fine as the fourth line but we have like ten guys for the fourth line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 14, 2014 Have we tried Tatar-Datsyuk-Jurco yet? That line combines the most skilled puck handler in the league feeding a guy who loves shoot the puck with a guy who is a big body to clear space who needs to be more offensive. It could work. 3 krsmith17, number9 and GoWings1905 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 One way or another this team needs to find a level of consistency. There are so many ifs when making up lines you never know what you're going to get out of our players once the puck drops. I say we stabilize the top line and keep them together. At least we'll know we will have one dangerous line night in night out (hopefully) The rest, go with the hot hand. Right now Abby, Shehan and Tatar are playing great and can produce as a 2nd line. I'm sure that will change. 3rd line and Nyquist need a major spark. 4th line has had a bad few games maybe sit Andersson to get a spark out of them. Defense is always going to be a mess when Kronwall and Ericsson are playing like trash plus having Smith out. Just hope for the best with them Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Franzen Abdelkader-Sheahan-Tatar Nyquist-Helm-Jurco Cleary-Glendening-Miller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 One way or another this team needs to find a level of consistency. There are so many ifs when making up lines you never know what you're going to get out of our players once the puck drops. I say we stabilize the top line and keep them together. At least we'll know we will have one dangerous line night in night out (hopefully) The rest, go with the hot hand. Right now Abby, Shehan and Tatar are playing great and can produce as a 2nd line. I'm sure that will change. 3rd line and Nyquist need a major spark. 4th line has had a bad few games maybe sit Andersson to get a spark out of them. Defense is always going to be a mess when Kronwall and Ericsson are playing like trash plus having Smith out. Just hope for the best with them Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Franzen Abdelkader-Sheahan-Tatar Nyquist-Helm-Jurco Cleary-Glendening-Miller I really think weiss needs to get back in. I'd go Z-pav-jurco Mule-weiss-nyquist Abdelkader-sheahan-tatar Miller-helm-glenny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
derblaueClaus 1,668 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Don't know if it's a good idea to throw Weiss immediately against Top 6 competition. He will need some time, probably at least the rest of the season, to adjust. I also would change Abby and Jurco. The former is playing great right now while the latter isn't consistent enough to be Top 6 material yet. Giving also Dats is back I'd roll with : Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen Tatar - Datsyuk - Abdelkader Sheahan - Weiss - Jurco Miller - Glendening - Helm Edited November 23, 2014 by derblaueClaus 3 trule23, PavelValerievichDatsyuk and UpstateNYRedWingsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nawein 324 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 Whatever we do for the love of all things good can we please keep Nyquist and Datsyuk off the ice together? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DannyD 79 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 Don't know if it's a good idea to throw Weiss immediately against Top 6 competition. He will need some time, probably at least the rest of the season, to adjust. I also would change Abby and Jurco. The former is playing great right now while the latter isn't consistent enough to be Top 6 material yet. Giving also Dats is back I'd roll with : Nyquist - Zetterberg - Franzen Tatar - Datsyuk - Abdelkader Sheahan - Weiss - Jurco Miller - Glendening - Helm Has Sheahan ever played wing? I think I would go with something like this and ease Weiss back into the top 6. Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Abdelkader Nyquist-Sheahan-Franzen Tatar-Weiss-Jurco Miller-Helm-Glendening With the way Pulkkinnen has been playing down in GR I would like to call him up and go with this... Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Nyquist Tatar-Sheahan-Franzen Pulks-Weiss-Jurco Abby-Helm-Glendening That could give us three legit scoring lines and a boost on the PP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 If Mantha ends up looking too good to stay in GR send Jurco back down to regain his goal touch. Zetterberg Datsyuk Abdelkader Nyquist Sheahan Franzen Tatar Weiss Mantha M G A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,198 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 If Mantha ends up looking too good to stay in GR send Jurco back down to regain his goal touch. Hate to say it, but nothing Mantha does is going to get him more than nine games with the big club this season. 1 _SP_ reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,440 Report post Posted November 23, 2014 I'm putting this here because I didn't want to start another thread. But did anybody else see Jim Nill absolutely fleece Doug Wilson on that Brendan Dillon for Jason Demers trade? Apparently if you've got a half assed hockey player, but he's bigger than 6'3 and 220 lbs. you should call the Sharks. Think they'd take Kindl lol? 3 jimmyemeryhunter, e_prime and derblaueClaus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites