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#1 Euro_Twins

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 01:33 PM

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 01:37 PM

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Subban's eight year deal with MTL has an AAV of $9M. #TSN



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Posted 02 August 2014 - 01:38 PM

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 01:45 PM

I get he's PK and all, but 9 million? Holy cow. For a guy who doesn't play on the penalty kill...

I guess there really is some danger in using bridge deals. Sheesh.



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Posted 02 August 2014 - 01:54 PM

The salary cap is gonna make the game s***. I like PK, and he's great, but 9 million? Yeesh. Safe to say Kronwall at south of 5 mil is the best contract in the league?


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 02:05 PM

Great. If PK is the building block for a 9M dollar contract, we can all prepare for our fourth consecutive lockout


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 02:07 PM

Yeah, that's a good salary cap we have. FML.

10.5 for Toews & Kane and now 9M for PK?

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 02:14 PM

Some of this definitely has to do with the bridge deal.  For the last two years he was underpaid compared to his peers who signed long term contracts when their entry level contracts expired. 
 
A good take on it, written before the signing:
 

Let's look at how much Subban earned in his pre-arbitration eligible Group 2 seasons, in comparison with what Karlsson, Pietrangelo, Doughty took home:

Player Pre-arb. earnings
Alex Pietrangelo $10.5 million
Erik Karlsson $10.5 million
Drew Doughty $12.5 million
PK Subban $5.75 million
It's a massive disparity.

This is how long-term deals with star Group 2 players generally work though, the player receives short-term security in exchange for giving up some UFA seasons, while the club gets an excellent player on a deal with a lower averaged annual value (or cap-hit).

It's worth remembering that when the Canadiens signed Subban to a bridge deal in January of 2012, they changed the dynamics of the incentives at play and burned some of their ability to lower Subban's salary cap-hit on a long-term contract

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Put it together, and you probably have a range of reasonable outcomes that falls somewhere between $70.5-$75.5 million over eight years. If the Canadiens and Subban avoid arbitration with a maximum-term contract, the defenseman's cap-hit will exceed $8 million per season with ease. 

 
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Posted 02 August 2014 - 02:22 PM

I think Subban is a real good player and all.  But they should have let someone offer sheet the guy and taken the picks.  One guy, even a top flight defenseman, doesn't make a Stanley Cup winner.  This is way too much for any single player, and their depth will suffer for it.  They'll have a never ending string of plugs and inexperienced kids populating their team for the next 8 years. 


GMRwings:  "Well, in other civilized countries, 16 years old isn't considered underage.  For instance, I believe the age of consent is 16 in Canada.  There's some US states where it's 16 as well.  

 

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 02:49 PM

This cap hit seems like they used Quincey's contract as comparison.



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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:02 PM

Why not?

 

Even the s***tiest players in the NBA make that kind of money.  


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:44 PM

Why not?
 
Even the s***tiest players in the NBA make that kind of money.  



Or baseball.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:49 PM

Or baseball.

 

Yeah , at least in baseball they play what, 500 games in a season?

 

Most of it is spent standing and chewing gum, but who am I to judge?


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:58 PM

 
Yeah , at least in baseball they play what, 500 games in a season?
 
Most of it is spent standing and chewing gum, but who am I to judge?


Just wait a rod will make 30m a year for next like four season. As a mediocre player at the age of like 40.

That's equal to us paying alfi 15m.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:19 PM

He's a 25 year old star defenseman and the cornerstone of their team along with Price.

 

Are people saying he's not good enough?  His attitude doesn't warrant this deal?  Or are you guys saying only forwards should get this kind of money?  


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:38 PM

He's a 25 year old star defenseman and the cornerstone of their team along with Price.
 
Are people saying he's not good enough?  His attitude doesn't warrant this deal?  Or are you guys saying only forwards should get this kind of money?  


I agree he is a star. And this is a market value deal. But it show just how much prices are going up...

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:50 PM

I hope these contracts aren't slowly moving us toward another lockout.....

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:56 PM

I hope these contracts aren't slowly moving us toward another lockout.....


They are.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 05:10 PM

They are.

 

Most definitely. I've been waiting for it for a while now. It'll come sooner or later because these escalating contracts will only continue to get bigger and bigger. It is fundamentally, a joke. PK is a great player, yes, but no guy is worth that kind of money IMO. 


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 05:22 PM

I agree he is a star. And this is a market value deal. But it show just how much prices are going up...

Well salary wise he is in the top 13 for players overall. Teams cant add years onto the deal to lower the cap hit anymore.







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