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Every that constantly b****es about Ken Holland, be thankful you're not a Flyers fan...

#Flyers' buried / retained salary is astronomical: Vinny ($2.25M), MacDonald ($3.975M), Schenn ($1.8M), Gagner ($2.25M), Grossmann ($500K).

That's absolutely insane... Nearly 11M in unusable cap space...

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Every that constantly b****es about Ken Holland, be thankful you're not a Flyers fan...

#Flyers' buried / retained salary is astronomical: Vinny ($2.25M), MacDonald ($3.975M), Schenn ($1.8M), Gagner ($2.25M), Grossmann ($500K).

That's absolutely insane... Nearly 11M in unusable cap space...

Wow, that is pretty gross. 3.975 for MacDonald lol

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Every that constantly b****es about Ken Holland, be thankful you're not a Flyers fan...

#Flyers' buried / retained salary is astronomical: Vinny ($2.25M), MacDonald ($3.975M), Schenn ($1.8M), Gagner ($2.25M), Grossmann ($500K).

That's absolutely insane... Nearly 11M in unusable cap space...

We have this thanks to our genius GM:

Weiss missing tooth out of work buyout 15 mil

Howard backup goalie 4 more years 20 mil

Tootoo playing in Jersey buyout 4 mil

Ericsson 3 more years 15 mil

Kindl sitting in the pressbox 1 more year 2.5 mil

Cleary in the minors 1.5 mil

There are about 3 other bad contracts, but those were all fairly understandable at the time.

Our GM is the king of not knowing what he's doing.

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We have this thanks to our genius GM:

Weiss missing tooth out of work buyout 15 mil

Howard backup goalie 4 more years 20 mil

Tootoo playing in Jersey buyout 4 mil

Ericsson 3 more years 15 mil

Kindl sitting in the pressbox 1 more year 2.5 mil

Cleary in the minors 1.5 mil

There are about 3 other bad contracts, but those were all fairly understandable at the time.

Our GM is the king of not knowing what he's doing.

Must agree here.

While Holland 'kicks tires' - other GM have the brains, and the balls to swing deals.

Instead of trying to improve the team - he instead re-signs what he considers to be 'safe bets' that usually don't add up to much (Cleary/Kindl/Quincey).

Yeah - he signed Green, but I think it's pretty obvious that Green isn't the offensive dynamo that he was 4 years ago.

A fine example of a protege who surpassed his mentor would be Nill, and a lesser extent Stevie Y.

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For us to make that move it would be Larkin after he's played 2-3 seasons and proven to be "elite". Which proves we don't have the assets currently to go for a #1 defensemen. Guess that's why Holland kicks tires

Us dumping Ericsson would be the equivalent of what PHI got for Schenn

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Weiss didn't work out. It sucks we had to buy him out but it happens to every team in the league.

Howard has been great up until this recent stretch. He will need to be traded within the next year or so though.

You're really bringing up Tootoo? If he were still here, you'd have a point. Holland made good on that buyout.

Ericsson is slightly overpaid but not near as bad as some make it seem.

The Kindl deal sucks but again, there are many other much worse contracts around the league.

Cleary is a Griffin, not a Red Wing. Nothing against our cap.

Holland isn't perfect, nor is any other GM in the league. There may be a few doing a better job right now, but I have no issue with the way Kenny is managing this team. Once again rebuilding on the fly. Be patient...

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Wow. Ryan Johansson for Seth Jones as well.

Thats quite the trade

Saw that coming for a while now. I was at the CBJ vs. Minny game last night and Johansen passed the puck to a Wild player about 6 or 7 times. He even horribly lost the faceoff that allowed the 2nd Minnesota empty-netter. It was pretty clear that he didn't want to be in Columbus anymore. I haven't watched much of Seth Jones but he was so highly touted coming into the draft that I'm sure he just needs some more playing time and development to become a steal for the Jackets.

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How does Nashville develop 3 franchise defensemen in the time we've developed Ericsson

4 actually: Suter, Weber, Josi and Jones. Suter and Jones were early draft picks, so we can't really compare. But Josi and Weber were second rounders.

Meanwhile, our first round picks, Kindl and Smith, will likely be healthy scratches when everyone's healthy.

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Luck

I disagree. We clearly have trouble identifying hockey sense in young defensemen. Otherwise, you could call our success in drafting smaller, undersized European forwards luck as well.

By sucking. Remember who we got the last time we sucked? Lidstrom and Konstantinov.

Lidstrom and Konstantinov were picked 53rd and 221st overall, respectively. Any team could have drafted them.

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I disagree. We clearly have trouble identifying hockey sense in young defensemen. Otherwise, you could call our success in drafting smaller, undersized European forwards luck as well.

Getting Zetterberg and Datsyuk and having both turn out as good as they were was luck.

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