DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted September 24, 2016 I'm Canadian but I low key want Russia to win f*** that. Canada ain't losing to Russia. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted September 24, 2016 I'm Canadian but I low key want Russia to win I'm not sure what the middle part of that is saying....but are you saying you want Russia to win? Why??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 I'm not sure what the middle part of that is saying....but are you saying you want Russia to win? Why??? Would be better for hockey. Canada won the last two Olympic Gold medals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 Kucherov is deadly I'm not sure what the middle part of that is saying....but are you saying you want Russia to win? Why??? Rooting for Canada but deep down kind of want Russia to win. Just cheered when Kucherov scored by accident Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 Russia has a lot of talent at forward, but I would honestly take the Red Wings defense over theirs. It's basically an old Markov and a bunch of average players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) I feel bad for Ovechkin because you just know he's going to be asked about the head to head with Crosby again after this game. This will be make Crosby 23-0 in the his last 23 games with Team Canada (ignoring exhibition games). 14-0 for Price. This is all their games, not against Russia. Edit: I just checked, they've actually only played against each other 4 times in international competition, including tonight....Canada 4-0. 2005 World Juniors, 2010 Olympics, 2015 Word Championships and 2016 World Cup. Edited September 25, 2016 by toby91_ca Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 Canada wins Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 Ovechkin and Malkin are total trash for the Russian team. These guys never show up in the biggest international competitions. Time to replace them with the younger guns. And as I stated earlier, Russia doesn't develop good defensemen. They had Marchenko on the team for Pete's sake. 1 frankgrimes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 It's strange because the Russians used to develop defense first and had elite d-men in the 70s and 80s, even a lot of the forwards were defense first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 With NA out, I'm done watching.. 1 NotTooAbby reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NerveDamage 4,176 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 Tatar Tots with the GWG for team Europe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 That's our Tats! Congratulations to Team Europe on your second-place finish!* *Assuming they don't actually "shock the world". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 Let's Go Canada!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 Impressive Tatar, hope he gains some confidence and is ready to move to the next level of play. 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,526 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 Tatar and Nyquist are pretty much the same player. I mean one of them wasn't good enough to play for Sweden's national team, and the other just roasted that same Swedish team for two goals. Pretty much dead even to me lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 Yes and Abdelkader is better than Kessel. Rock solid logic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,526 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 Yes and Abdelkader is better than Kessel. Rock solid logic Except that Sweden didn't expressly choose worse players like the US did. Lombardi even said so. Nobody thinks Abby is better than Kessel, including the people who picked him. He's worse, but tougher, and that apparently is what Lombardi's dumb ass wanted. Sweden presumably chose their best, and Nyquist wasn't one of them. Though admittedly, he probably would have made Team Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 The big mistake by the US team was that they built a team to beat Canada, but forgot they had to play against other teams as well. Not my opinion, this was admitted by Lombardi. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 And Tatar probably wouldn't have made team Sweden either... Nyquist absolutely should have made that team over Kruger and I'd even argue a few others as well, Soderberg, Berglund, Backlund, Silvferberg... You're one of the only people I've heard of that thinks Tatar is that much better than Nyquist. I'm not going to argue that Nyquist is better or vice versa, because they are very similar in overall skill level and ability. They've had very similar personal success thus far in their careers and I expect much of the same throughout their careers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) I think Tatar is a notch above Nyquist. They're similar types and I think their production will be fairly similar (depending on usage, of course). The thing I notice about Tatar just seems to be a greater drive and he seems to create pressure and offensive more from my view. Maybe that can be represented by corsi or something. Nyquist's penchent for chicken-winging to get a hooking call and some diving has also kind of made me turn against him a bit, but that doesn't really make him a lesser player - it just bothers me. I know every player does it to a certain extent, but he does do it a lot. Good for Tats in this tournament. Hopefully he and Mrazek will be boosted by some confidence going into the year With Team Europe doing so well, I think it's good evidence against Frank and other's assertion that us getting a whole bunch more Michigan players will lead to better chemistry. Here you have players from 8 countries who seem to have found some pretty good chemistry. Edit: I think it's interesting that the advisory board that helped chose the team included Lidstrom and Alfredsson and they must not have pushed for Nyquist. Then again, it's ultimately not their choice and Gus did have a down year. Edited September 25, 2016 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted September 26, 2016 Tatar and Nyquist are pretty much the same player. I mean one of them wasn't good enough to play for Sweden's national team, and the other just roasted that same Swedish team for two goals. Pretty much dead even to me lol. Honest question. Who do you think is better, Silfverberg or Nyquist? From what I have seen of Silfverberg he hasn't impressed me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorthanded 5 Report post Posted September 26, 2016 Impressive Tatar, hope he gains some confidence and is ready to move to the next level of play. But will Zetterberg pass the puck to him now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,526 Report post Posted September 26, 2016 Honest question. Who do you think is better, Silfverberg or Nyquist? From what I have seen of Silfverberg he hasn't impressed me. I couldn't answer that question. I've never dug into Silfverbergs numbers or seen him play much in the same way I have for Nyquist and Tatar. If I find some time this week I'll give it a look and let you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted September 28, 2016 Looks like Tatar saved all his clutch scoring for this tournament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted September 28, 2016 Tatar looking realgud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites