2017 Draft

[krsmith17 7,191]

8 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

I could still go for Fowler. Maybe our first for him and their first? Meh....it's all gonna happen soon! Who knows what we'll do!

Unfortunately, probably not much.....

[mackel 681]

Am I remembering correctly that the draft lottery for teams that miss the playoffs happens before round #1?  It seems to me that's how I remember it from last season but I wasn't playing close attention since we weren't in line for a top pick.

[Buppy 1,720]

25 minutes ago, mackel said:

Am I remembering correctly that the draft lottery for teams that miss the playoffs happens before round #1?  It seems to me that's how I remember it from last season but I wasn't playing close attention since we weren't in line for a top pick.

Last year's lottery was Apr. 30th. Early in the 2nd round. Don't remember if that's normal or not.

[kickazz 5,459]

Should be sometime between first and second round of the playoffs. So sometime in April.

Edited April 2, 2017 by kickazz

[Fedorovfan 25]

I'm going on record............. Juuso Valimaki would be the best first round pick. He's a great 2 way d-man. 6'2" good skater nice shot and does not get rattled.

 

Liljegren is a good player. But, I'm just not sold on him.

[sjr2012 439]

am i the only one wanting Rasmussen?

[BringBack19 110]

6 minutes ago, sjr2012 said:

am i the only one wanting Rasmussen?

No, though there are others on my list higher than him. I would be thrilled if we pick Rasmussen at 5 or later.

[krsmith17 7,191]

10 hours ago, Fedorovfan said:

I'm going on record............. Juuso Valimaki would be the best first round pick. He's a great 2 way d-man. 6'2" good skater nice shot and does not get rattled.

 

Liljegren is a good player. But, I'm just not sold on him.

I'm confused. Do you think Valimaki is going to be the best player in the draft? Surely you can't be suggesting that. I'd be okay with that pick if we end up outside of the top 10, but even then there are a handful of players (Foote, Tippett) I'd pick before Valimaki. I agree we need defense, but this year isn't the year for defense in the first round. We should pile up on defensemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and possibly explore trading options to acquire that top pair defenseman.

[Datsyukian-Deke 722]

2 hours ago, krsmith17 said:

I'm confused. Do you think Valimaki is going to be the best player in the draft? Surely you can't be suggesting that. I'd be okay with that pick if we end up outside of the top 10, but even then there are a handful of players (Foote, Tippett) I'd pick before Valimaki. I agree we need defense, but this year isn't the year for defense in the first round. We should pile up on defensemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and possibly explore trading options to acquire that top pair defenseman.

I agree it's not the best year for defenseman in the 1st round but I think it depends where you draft. If we are top 5 I'm staying away from a D-man but if we are somewhere 6-10 I think Liljegren is great value there. If I'm 15+ then Makar would be great value. But def don't reach for a defenseman in the first round.

Edited April 4, 2017 by Datsyukian-Deke

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

After yesterday, we are 26th in the league. This gives us a 23.5% chance to win a top 3 pick in the lottery, 7.6% to win #1. Worst case scenario is we pick at #9. Since New Jersey has 6 points less than us at the moment, 26th overall is the lowest spot we can get. We just have to defend this spot with 2 more losses.

[LeftWinger 4,963]

On ‎4‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 10:13 AM, Fedorovfan said:

I'm going on record............. Juuso Valimaki would be the best first round pick. He's a great 2 way d-man. 6'2" good skater nice shot and does not get rattled.

 

Liljegren is a good player. But, I'm just not sold on him.

 

No...just no.

Edited March 14, 2018 by LeftWinger

[LeftWinger 4,963]

If we draft 9th and we miss out on the top guys and if Tippet is still there you must take him. He fills a need today. Then if I can't acquire  #1 D, then I trade up to get Hague. I still like trading our 1st to someone for 2 later 1sts. Tippet and Hague make this team instantly better now and in the future. We must draft these two guys. Especially if we miss out on Vilardi.

[DickieDunn 2,571]

If we draft 9th and we miss out on the top guys and if Tippet is still there you must take him. He fills a need today. Then if I can't acquire  #1 D, then I trade up to get Hague. I still like trading our 1st to someone for 2 later 1sts. Tippet and Hague make this team instantly better now and in the future. We must draft these two guys. Especially if we miss out on Vilardi.

Not if he's not a top 10 prospect. Reaching for a guy is a bad idea

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[Dabura 12,207]

22 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

If we draft 9th and we miss out on the top guys and if Tippet is still there you must take him. He fills a need today. Then if I can't acquire  #1 D, then I trade up to get Hague. I still like trading our 1st to someone for 2 later 1sts. Tippet and Hague make this team instantly better now and in the future. We must draft these two guys. Especially if we miss out on Vilardi.

I can pretty much guarantee neither Tippett nor Hague would make next season's team. They're simply not NHL-ready.

Besides, we shouldn't be drafting for need. At least, not in the first round.

[Dabura 12,207]

(I do really like Tippett and Hague, though.)

[Dabura 12,207]

Here's how I'm looking at it.

With this draft class, I'm not convinced there's much of a difference between picking 5th or 6th overall and picking 9th or 10th overall. Patrick, Hischier, Liljegren, Vilardi are likely your top four (not necessarily in that order), and then there's little separation between all the realistic candidates for the next half-dozen slots. So...we'll have a decent(ish) shot at picking in the top three, and even if we pick in the 6-10 range, we'll still be getting a really good player. If we're picking 10th, we're getting someone who probably could've just as easily been picked 6th. Mittelstadt, Rasmussen, Tippett, Tolvanen, Makar, Glass...at least one of those should be available to us (assuming we don't get a lottery pick). Given what the Wings are used to choosing from when it comes to making first-round selections, and given the lack of gamechanging talent in this draft class, I'd be perfectly happy with any of those players.

[kickazz 5,459]

37 minutes ago, Dabura said:

Here's how I'm looking at it.

With this draft class, I'm not convinced there's much of a difference between picking 5th or 6th overall and picking 9th or 10th overall. Patrick, Hischier, Liljegren, Vilardi are likely your top four (not necessarily in that order), and then there's little separation between all the realistic candidates for the next half-dozen slots. So...we'll have a decent(ish) shot at picking in the top three, and even if we pick in the 6-10 range, we'll still be getting a really good player. If we're picking 10th, we're getting someone who probably could've just as easily been picked 6th. Mittelstadt, Rasmussen, Tippett, Tolvanen, Makar, Glass...at least one of those should be available to us (assuming we don't get a lottery pick). Given what the Wings are used to choosing from when it comes to making first-round selections, and given the lack of gamechanging talent in this draft class, I'd be perfectly happy with any of those players.

No. We will trade down.

[krsmith17 7,191]

Why all this talk about drafting 6-10? You mean if Holland decides to trade our top 3 pick for a pick in the 6-10 range plus a late 1st / early 2nd? I'd prefer keep our top 3 pick and take one of Patrick or Vilardi... Can't wait to win that draft lottery!

[Dabura 12,207]

8 minutes ago, kickazz said:

No. We will trade down.

Certainly possible.

Honestly, I'd be ok with Suzuki or Yamamoto being our first pick, so it's going to be pretty hard for the Wings to disappoint me with whatever they end up doing in the first round. (Note to Kenny: that is not to be taken as a challenge.)

2 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

Why all this talk about drafting 6-10? You mean if Holland decides to trade our top 3 pick for a pick in the 6-10 range plus a late 1st / early 2nd? I'd prefer keep our top 3 pick and take one of Patrick or Vilardi... Can't wait to win that draft lottery!

Just a small town girl...

Edited April 5, 2017 by Dabura

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

15 minutes ago, Dabura said:

Certainly possible.

Honestly, I'd be ok with Suzuki or Yamamoto being our first pick, so it's going to be pretty hard for the Wings to disappoint me with whatever they end up doing in the first round. (Note to Kenny: that is not to be taken as a challenge.)

Just a small town girl...

What's the only thing worse than Journey?

[Dabura 12,207]

Just now, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

What's the only thing worse than Journey?

Genesis?

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

17 minutes ago, Dabura said:

Genesis?

Journey live

[sputman 1,268]

41 minutes ago, Dabura said:

Honestly, I'd be ok with Suzuki or Yamamoto being our first pick,

 More of a Mitsubishi man, myself.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

6 minutes ago, sputman said:

 More of a Mitsubishi man, myself.

Mitsubishi hasn't been the same since the GameCube honestly

[LeftWinger 4,963]

I'd be happy with Suzuki or Yamamoto as well. I recall bringing those guys up a long while ago back when they were projected low 1st to high 2nd. They've done well to move themselves up.