The Datsyukian Deke 127 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 The main problem is that we continue to play guys higher than they are skilled because otherwise someone would have to admit how many figures we have waisted on 3rd and 4th liners.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 11 hours ago, krsmith17 said: So in other words, Frk will be demoted to the 4th line or press box... Awesome... Probably, but not necessarily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoveMyRedWings56 73 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 11 hours ago, krsmith17 said: So in other words, Frk will be demoted to the 4th line or press box... Awesome... Don't see Frk in the pressbox that will be Witkowski and Booth, Probably AA-Nielsen-Frk and Helm on the 4th line with Glendening and Wilson at least that's how i'd have it any ways. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 Just now, Dabura said: Probably, but not necessarily. The only other way is if Abdelkader is demoted to the 4th line, and I doubt that... I'm not a fan of Abby in the top 6, but if he is (and he will be), I'd prefer him with Zetterberg... If there's one player that can get him going, it's Z. It also adds depth down the lineup. I wouldn't mind seeing something like this... Abdelkader - Zetterberg - Nyquist Mantha - Larkin - Frk Athanasiou - Nielsen - Tatar Wilson - Helm - Glendening Frk and Tatar are interchangeable. That would give us three strong "offensive" lines and a solid checking line. 2 minutes ago, LoveMyRedWings56 said: Don't see Frk in the pressbox that will be Witkowski and Booth, Probably AA-Nielsen-Frk and Helm on the 4th line with Glendening and Wilson at least that's how i'd have it any ways. I agree. But what we would like to see, and what will happen, is often quite different... 3 LoveMyRedWings56, Dabura and BadgerBob reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Athanasiou-Zetterberg-Mantha Larkin-Nielsen-Frk Helm-Nyquist-Tatar Wilson-Glendening-Abdelkader Burner-Playmaker-Goal Scorer Nyquist isn't a center. Larkin is a center, and has proven to be a very good one so far this season. Why would you move him to the wing? Makes no sense... 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoveMyRedWings56 73 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 2 hours ago, krsmith17 said: The only other way is if Abdelkader is demoted to the 4th line, and I doubt that... I'm not a fan of Abby in the top 6, but if he is (and he will be), I'd prefer him with Zetterberg... If there's one player that can get him going, it's Z. It also adds depth down the lineup. I wouldn't mind seeing something like this... Abdelkader - Zetterberg - Nyquist Mantha - Larkin - Frk Athanasiou - Nielsen - Tatar Wilson - Helm - Glendening Frk and Tatar are interchangeable. That would give us three strong "offensive" lines and a solid checking line. I agree. But what we would like to see, and what will happen, is often quite different... True dat we're talking Blashill here so any thing can and will happen. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Oh lord. You havent learned that they are all just playing F yet? There was a time not long ago when we had 7-8 natural centers in our lineup. We didnt double shift the 4 wingers. What are you talking about? So you're saying there's no difference between center and wing? Seriously? What does having 7-8 natural centers in our lineup have to do with anything? Nyquist isn't one of them. He's a natural winger, and shouldn't be relied on to play anything but. F*** it! Why not throw Tatar on defense while we're at it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Oh lord. You havent learned that they are all just playing F yet? There was a time not long ago when we had 7-8 natural centers in our lineup. We didnt double shift the 4 wingers. Centers can play wing. Wings can't play center. It's not rocket science. And no, being forced into a face off doesn't mean you're playing center. 2 krsmith17 and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MileHighWingsGuy 178 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 23 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: What are you talking about? So you're saying there's no difference between center and wing? Seriously? What does having 7-8 natural centers in our lineup have to do with anything? Nyquist isn't one of them. He's a natural winger, and shouldn't be relied on to play anything but. F*** it! Why not throw Tatar on defense while we're at it... AA is an offensive force but rode the pine for large periods of time cause he wouldn't play defense. I guess Tatar on Defense makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 27 minutes ago, Son of a Wing said: Centers can play wing. Wings can't play center. It's not rocket science. And no, being forced into a face off doesn't mean you're playing center. You mean his career total of 31 face-offs (35.5%) isn't enough to justify converting him to a regular center over Larkin?... 1 minute ago, Jonas Mahonas said: What is Helm? Natural center, playing wing... Not a natural winger, playing center. HUGE difference... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 Ericsson used to play center Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Ericsson used to play center And now he's a defender?!?! Sad! 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: What is Helm? a mediocre player with good speed and stone hands 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, kickazz said: And now he's a defender?!?! Sad! Maybe that's why he sucks. He's a natural center who should be between Larkin and Zberg 2 kliq and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Maybe that's why he sucks. He's a natural center who should be between Larkin and Zberg We've been looking for a 1C for a while now, maybe he's been on our D the entire time! 2 hours ago, krsmith17 said: What are you talking about? So you're saying there's no difference between center and wing? Seriously? What does having 7-8 natural centers in our lineup have to do with anything? Nyquist isn't one of them. He's a natural winger, and shouldn't be relied on to play anything but. F*** it! Why not throw Tatar on defense while we're at it... I think this just proves he is either trolling, or doesn't actually understand hockey. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: I think it proves that you 2 dont understand that all the forwards on our team are interchangeable for the most part. Plastics, amirite? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BinMucker94 302 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: I think it proves that you 2 dont understand that all the forwards on our team are interchangeable for the most part. I agree with this. Most team use a system where the first forward back assumes the centers duties of supporting the puck and helping the defense out down low while the last 2 guys back watch the points. Plus with all the cycling and defense jumping into the play and joining the cycle down low players are forced to interchange positions all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: I think it proves that you 2 dont understand that all the forwards on our team are interchangeable for the most part. For the most part? I'll agree that Zetterberg, Nielsen, Larkin, Athanasiou, Helm, Glendening, and possibly even Abdelkader are interchangeable. As in they are natural centers (or have played center in the past) that can play wing. You can't just throw any winger (Nyquist, Tatar, Mantha, Frk) at center and expect them to excel. I could get behind trying Nyquist at center, if Zetterberg, Nielsen and Larkin all went down to injury, but not just to swap one of them out just for the sake of it. Not to mention you're advocating taking out our future 1 / 2 C... It makes ZERO sense. 12 minutes ago, BinMucker94 said: I agree with this. Most team use a system where the first forward back assumes the centers duties of supporting the puck and helping the defense out down low while the last 2 guys back watch the points. Plus with all the cycling and defense jumping into the play and joining the cycle down low players are forced to interchange positions all the time. Sure, once the puck is dropped, and covering players in the defensive zone, or cycling in the offensive zone, but not to actually take draws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 Looks like we will have a 4th line of Wilson - Glendening - Frk... Frk will be a regular scratch before Christmas Halloween... F*** Blashill! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadgerBob 297 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 For poops and laughs I'd like to see that #2 PP line as a regular line and see what happens: Mantha, Larkin, Frk, AA, Green. Stick whichever would be best on the blue line, the other D suck, at least it'd be fun to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,129 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 Yep, damn blashill... 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 Full Lines LW C RW GUSTAV NYQUIST HENRIK ZETTERBERG ANTHONY MANTHA TOMAS TATAR DYLAN LARKIN JUSTIN ABDELKADER ANDREAS ATHANASIOU FRANS NIELSEN DARREN HELM SCOTT WILSON LUKE GLENDENING MARTIN FRK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Maybe that's why he sucks. He's a natural center who should be between Larkin and Zberg This would actually be more entertaining to watch than what I have witnessed the last 2 games. 3 hours ago, BadgerBob said: For poops and laughs I'd like to see that #2 PP line as a regular line and see what happens: Mantha, Larkin, Frk, AA, Green. Stick whichever would be best on the blue line, the other D suck, at least it'd be fun to watch. If AA doesn't play defense, give him the Bowman-Federov treatment and put him in as a defensemen. It certainly couldn't get any worse. 2 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Full Lines LW C RW GUSTAV NYQUIST HENRIK ZETTERBERG ANTHONY MANTHA TOMAS TATAR DYLAN LARKIN JUSTIN ABDELKADER ANDREAS ATHANASIOU FRANS NIELSEN DARREN HELM SCOTT WILSON LUKE GLENDENING MARTIN FRK Isn't it ironic that Frk's jersey looks like a tombstone? RIP buddy. Edited October 26, 2017 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 Bertuzzi Close To Returning Aswell Will probably be stuck in GR until at least 2 forwards get injured though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Bertuzzi Close To Returning Aswell Will probably be stuck in GR until at least 2 forwards get injured though For sure. And I think GR is best for both Bertuzzi and Svechnikov right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
