kipwinger 8,703 Report post Posted July 27, 2022 Big fan of Helm. He's a culture guy (like Glendening and Abby). Good professional who can teach young guys how to eat, train, and live the life of a professional player. Every team needs a few of those guys, but the caveat is that they shouldn't get paid beyond their capabilities and they should never play higher in the lineup than their talents allow. 4th line Helm is a great player and great addition to a young team. 3 Jonas Mahonas, Rick D and marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted July 27, 2022 He was overpaid for years and now he's got his name on the Cup. Cake eaten. Well played, Darren. Well played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted September 1, 2022 There's a rumor Kane with 1/2 salary retained for Zadina and our 2023 1st. I think it could be a good thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,093 Report post Posted September 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: There's a rumor Kane with 1/2 salary retained for Zadina and our 2023 1st. I think it could be a good thing. Source ...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said: There's a rumor Kane with 1/2 salary retained for Zadina and our 2023 1st. I think it could be a good thing. They can have Erne too, but it must be a conditional 1st...if we land in the top 10 for the 2023 draft we get to keep it. Edited September 1, 2022 by F.Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted September 1, 2022 3 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Source ...? If there was a source, how would it be a rumor? This isnt the "clear facts" thread. This one is about rumors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,833 Report post Posted September 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: If there was a source, how would it be a rumor? This isnt the "clear facts" thread. This one is about rumors. Clear facts thread 1 2 1 AtlantaHotWings, bIueadams, Jonas Mahonas and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,078 Report post Posted September 2, 2022 Honestly, Kane has to go somewhere to be a top 6 guy. It'd be pointless to have him in the bottom 6. I guess you could form a 3rd line of: Kubalik-Suter-Kane ...and see if there could be any "magic" in the Hawks playing together. That being said, in the spirit of rumors, I'd give them Smith along with Zadina and the protected 1st. Erne could be the 13th forward with a 4th line of: Rasmussen-Veleno-Sundqvist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redw1ngs 149 Report post Posted September 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Honestly, Kane has to go somewhere to be a top 6 guy. It'd be pointless to have him in the bottom 6. I guess you could form a 3rd line of: Kubalik-Suter-Kane ...and see if there could be any "magic" in the Hawks playing together. That being said, in the spirit of rumors, I'd give them Smith along with Zadina and the protected 1st. Erne could be the 13th forward with a 4th line of: Rasmussen-Veleno-Sundqvist lol wut? Kane as 3w? Kanes still a top w in the league hes not playing bottom6 on this team or any team in the league. Kane with Larkin would be hella fun to watch. unfortunately Kane def isnt coming to Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,078 Report post Posted September 2, 2022 8 hours ago, redw1ngs said: lol wut? Kane as 3w? Kanes still a top w in the league hes not playing bottom6 on this team or any team in the league. Kane with Larkin would be hella fun to watch. unfortunately Kane def isnt coming to Detroit. If you read it again, That's what I started out saying. He's is going somewhere as a top 6. He doesn't belong in the bottom 6. Then in the spirit of rumors I suggested it might be interesting to put the Hawks players together. I picked "third" line because Raymond is entrenched on Larkin's wing and Suter isn't 2C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted September 2, 2022 Kane-Larkin-Raymond Vrana-Copp-Perron Bertuzzi-Veleno-Kubalik Berggren-Rasmussen-Sundqvist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted September 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Kane-Larkin-Raymond Vrana-Copp-Perron Bertuzzi-Veleno-Kubalik Berggren-Rasmussen-Sundqvist what about Forsberg? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 1,093 Report post Posted September 2, 2022 23 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: If there was a source, how would it be a rumor? This isnt the "clear facts" thread. This one is about rumors. Never mind Jonas I will find you a semi source... https://thehockeynews.com/news/three-realistic-landing-spots-for-patrick-kane there happy? 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,833 Report post Posted September 3, 2022 10 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Never mind Jonas I will find you a semi source... https://thehockeynews.com/news/three-realistic-landing-spots-for-patrick-kane there happy? Speculation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,078 Report post Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Never mind Jonas I will find you a semi source... https://thehockeynews.com/news/three-realistic-landing-spots-for-patrick-kane there happy? Erne, Walman? If that is all it'd take, Yzerman would be on the phone already. What would the "sweetener" be? Shoot, I'd give them all of Erne, Walman, Smith AND Zadina for Kane. Then extend Kane for a couple more years. Edited September 3, 2022 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted September 3, 2022 23 hours ago, AtlantaHotWings said: Never mind Jonas I will find you a semi source... https://thehockeynews.com/news/three-realistic-landing-spots-for-patrick-kane there happy? yah, I tried to tell everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted December 11, 2022 On 7/23/2022 at 6:26 AM, kipwinger said: Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, a 1st and a throwaway prospect. Good work by Treliving on the return but it's not as much of a fleecing as prognosticators are suggesting. For starters, Tkachuk is a better player than Huberdeau (just perhaps not a better scorer) and Florida got caved with their "all offense" approach last season so something had to give. With that said, even if Tkachuk and Huberdeau were a wash, the contracts make all the difference. Florida is getting Tkachuk for his prime 8 years. Calgary is getting Huberdeau and Weeger for a season unless they can re-sign them. But clearly they have a problem re-signing players because they just failed to get Gaudreau and Tkachuk under contract. Additionally, the 1st is likely to be somewhere in the 25-32 range. The winner of this trade depends entirely on whether Calgary can get these guys under contract (a tall order). Otherwise they'll be traded at the deadline (or lost for nothing) and you're looking at trading one of the best players in the game for a bunch of late 1st or 2nd round picks. If I were Calgary I would have preferred to get some quality prospects with team control in return rather than UFAs and picks, but I think Treliving did the best he could given the constraints he had. I couldn't find where I posted about it, but I loved this trade for Florida at the time. Mostly cause I think Matt Tkachuk is one of the most dominant players in the league - and, completely unrelated - I hate the Flames. But I was told Weegar and a 1st made this is a bad trade for Florida and Brad was doing an excellent job... Tkachuk = 37 pts Huberdeau = 17 pts Weegar = 6 pts This should be the feather in Bill Zito's hat, and other GM's should take notes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted December 12, 2022 16 hours ago, bIueadams said: I couldn't find where I posted about it, but I loved this trade for Florida at the time. Mostly cause I think Matt Tkachuk is one of the most dominant players in the league - and, completely unrelated - I hate the Flames. But I was told Weegar and a 1st made this is a bad trade for Florida and Brad was doing an excellent job... Tkachuk = 37 pts Huberdeau = 17 pts Weegar = 6 pts This should be the feather in Bill Zito's hat, and other GM's should take notes. But how is that Panther's blueline looking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bIueadams 776 Report post Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, marcaractac said: But how is that Panther's blueline looking? Idk im just cherry picking stats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 216 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 An article with 4 trade destinations for Bo Horvath. Goodbye Cossa? https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/ 1 redw1ngs reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwingsfan58 157 Report post Posted December 21, 2022 4 hours ago, town123 said: An article with 4 trade destinations for Bo Horvath. Goodbye Cossa? https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/ LOL Even with an extension, Bo Horvat doesn't return a blue chip prospect like Sebastian Cossa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted December 21, 2022 5 hours ago, town123 said: An article with 4 trade destinations for Bo Horvath. Goodbye Cossa? https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/ Thats a lot to give up if our pick is a lottery pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted December 21, 2022 Why trade for Bo Horvat when he could be had for free in the summer? 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 216 Report post Posted December 21, 2022 Same here. If it's true that Bo really likes the Wings, better to wait. Bo and family can spend all summer getting settled into a new house and get the kids ready for school. This guy thinks a Horvat + for Hronek is a fair deal for the Nucks. https://canucksarmy.com/news/why-bo-horvat-hockey-trade-possible-extremely-difficult-execute Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,833 Report post Posted December 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, town123 said: If it's true that Bo really likes the Wings, better to wait. Whats his pajama status? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
