F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Wheelchairsuperhero said: Honestly I kind of hope we just get #2. As much as I'd prefer to win it (so Holland would have options) - sliding down to 2nd would be just fine with me when considering that many scouts/experts/etc consider Kakko close to - if not as good of a prospect to Hughes. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xault 272 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 The more I read about Byram, he's the player most I want outside of the top 2. I just feel like we really need a home run hit at D for once and he appears to be the best D in the draft. I was hyped as anyone about getting Zadina, but I felt a small sting about RedWings letting Q.Hughes pass by. As for the top 2. I am starting to lend in favor of Kakko over Hughes, but I really don't know which is better. I guess I feel safer with Kakko. I would be hyped for either one to be honest. Another player I am starting to really like a lot is Podkolzin. I think if ( which most will be ) Hughes, Kakko, Cozens, Byram are gone Podkolzin my dark horse. Something about him screams you'll be sorry if you don't pick me if you get the chance between 4-7. If we fall back to 7, I would be more than happy if we draft any of Cozens, Podkolzin or Byram. Any of them falling in our laps at 7 to me would be like Zadina falling into our laps all over again. 1st-2nd Kakko - Hughes tied 3rd-4th Cozens - Byram tied 5th - Podkolzin That would be my rankings right now I think. Can't wait for the draft! 2 Dabura and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 6 hours ago, xault said: The more I read about Byram, he's the player most I want outside of the top 2. I just feel like we really need a home run hit at D for once and he appears to be the best D in the draft. I was hyped as anyone about getting Zadina, but I felt a small sting about RedWings letting Q.Hughes pass by. As for the top 2. I am starting to lend in favor of Kakko over Hughes, but I really don't know which is better. I guess I feel safer with Kakko. I would be hyped for either one to be honest. Another player I am starting to really like a lot is Podkolzin. I think if ( which most will be ) Hughes, Kakko, Cozens, Byram are gone Podkolzin my dark horse. Something about him screams you'll be sorry if you don't pick me if you get the chance between 4-7. If we fall back to 7, I would be more than happy if we draft any of Cozens, Podkolzin or Byram. Any of them falling in our laps at 7 to me would be like Zadina falling into our laps all over again. 1st-2nd Kakko - Hughes tied 3rd-4th Cozens - Byram tied 5th - Podkolzin That would be my rankings right now I think. Can't wait for the draft! This is pretty much where I'm at. Podkolzin reminds me of Zetterberg. Plays his heart out, plays in all situations, great all-around game, not a great skater but more than makes up for it in other ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 It was nice to see the real wings finally show up again and not cost us two spots, hopefully rankings stay the same and we land at least byram or we can move up at least a spot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 If we get a pick in the top 2, it forces Holland to make a move with Abdelkader/Helm/Neilsen. That's what I'm excited about. I want to see these guys OFF the team. 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: It was nice to see the real wings finally show up again and not cost us two spots, hopefully rankings stay the same and we land at least byram or we can move up at least a spot You really think that was "the real Wings" last night? I'm betting on at least one of the Red Wings, Sabres, or Rangers moving into the top three. Let's hope that loss didn't cost us too much in the draft lottery... 2 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: If we get a pick in the top 2, it forces Holland to make a move with Abdelkader/Helm/Neilsen. That's what I'm excited about. I want to see these guys OFF the team. I wouldn't count on it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: If we get a pick in the top 2, it forces Holland to make a move with Abdelkader/Helm/Neilsen. That's what I'm excited about. I want to see these guys OFF the team. Only if he thinks this team is a piece or two away from being a real threat and he wants to go hunting for big game but doesn't have the requisite cap space. Though, even then, he'd probably look at Ericsson and/or Daley before Abdelkader/Helm/Nielsen. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: You really think that was "the real Wings" last night? I'm betting on at least one of the Red Wings, Sabres, or Rangers moving into the top three. Let's hope that loss didn't cost us too much in the draft lottery... I wouldn't count on it... Meant us losing so calm down , we weren’t as bad as losing 7-1 (friends visiting from out of town so didn’t get the pleasure of watching them finally lose ) and I definetly don’t think we’re as good as some media people think we are and are already convincing themselves we’re makkng the playoffs cause of a two week stretch well im hoping it’ll be a year where it’s teams 1-4 that move around and at the least we’re staying put and getting our shot at byram or podkolzin 17 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: If we get a pick in the top 2, it forces Holland to make a move with Abdelkader/Helm/Neilsen. That's what I'm excited about. I want to see these guys OFF the team. He’ll just get rid of ehn lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: If we get a pick in the top 2, it forces Holland to make a move with Abdelkader/Helm/Neilsen. That's what I'm excited about. I want to see these guys OFF the team. Agreed. Nielson i've never been a fan of, always felt Holland jumped the gun on signing him to too much money/term when Datsyuk retired, but he at least contributes. The other two are pure write offs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Meant us losing so calm down , we weren’t as bad as losing 7-1 (friends visiting from out of town so didn’t get the pleasure of watching them finally lose ) and I definetly don’t think we’re as good as some media people think we are and are already convincing themselves we’re makkng the playoffs cause of a two week stretch well im hoping it’ll be a year where it’s teams 1-4 that move around and at the least we’re staying put and getting our shot at byram or podkolzin He’ll just get rid of ehn lol "so calm down"... It really is too bad that you didn't get the "pleasure" of watching your team lose... Not a single person thinks this team is a lock to make the playoffs next season. Certainly not based on a two week stretch. I do think we're headed in the right direction though, and I think we'll see improvement from last season to next. 2 F.Michael and chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, krsmith17 said: "so calm down"... It really is too bad that you didn't get the "pleasure" of watching your team lose... Not a single person thinks this team is a lock to make the playoffs next season. Certainly not based on a two week stretch. I do think we're headed in the right direction though, and I think we'll see improvement from last season to next. As i said elsewhere, the top young forwards (Larkin, AA, Mantha, Bertuzzi) really stepped up to lead this year. AA especially. He's always had the hands and skating, but he took a massive step forward in putting it all together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, chaps80 said: As i said elsewhere, the top young forwards (Larkin, AA, Mantha, Bertuzzi) really stepped up to lead this year. AA especially. He's always had the hands and skating, but he took a massive step forward in putting it all together. Was our best player Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Larkin Was our best player FIFY Also, best by a mile. 2 1 F.Michael, krsmith17 and Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 If I see AA try and fail to deke around a defender one more time, I think I'm gonna start legit hating him. 1 1 Wheelchairsuperhero and chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, Dabura said: If I see AA try and fail to deke around a defender one more time, I think I'm gonna start legit hating him. 54 points from a guy making $3 million is hard to hate on though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 Just noticed the Avs have Ottawa's first round pick from the Turris/Duchne deal? Hahaha that suckssss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: If we get a pick in the top 2, it forces Holland to make a move with Abdelkader/Helm/Neilsen. That's what I'm excited about. No it doesn't. He has multiple players he can send down without passing thru waivers. 15 minutes ago, chaps80 said: Just noticed the Avs have Ottawa's first round pick from the Turris/Duchne deal? Hahaha that suckssss. Avs have 2 picks in the top 10. One will be 1-4. Ottawa may have chosen Tkachuk over Hughes or Kakko potentially by giving up this years pick instead of last years. Oops. 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Avs have 2 picks in the top 10. One will be 1-4. Ottawa may have chosen Tkachuk over Hughes or Kakko potentially by giving up this years pick instead of last years. Oops. Ottawa is such a dumpster fire. lol 1 1 Wheelchairsuperhero and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 47 minutes ago, chaps80 said: Just noticed the Avs have Ottawa's first round pick from the Turris/Duchne deal? Hahaha that suckssss. Which makes you wonder why Ottawa was tanking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Dabura said: If I see AA try and fail to deke around a defender one more time, I think I'm gonna start legit hating him. Yeah, it's getting very frustrating. He has the speed to beat every defender in the league wide, but he chooses to (try to) go through them rather than around them every f***ing time... He's done it successfully, what? 4 or 5 times maybe? That would still only put him at a 0.7% success rate... 1 1 Dabura and Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,842 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 37 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: No it doesn't. He has multiple players he can send down without passing thru waivers. Avs have 2 picks in the top 10. One will be 1-4. Ottawa may have chosen Tkachuk over Hughes or Kakko potentially by giving up this years pick instead of last years. Oops. wut? I'm pretty sure they made the playoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted April 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: wut? I'm pretty sure they made the playoffs Yes they did. Squeaked in as the 2nd wild card, playing Calgary first round. And they have a good shot at drafting Hughes or Kakko... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 Red Wings' draft lottery position to be decided on Tuesday [DetroitRedWings.com] Quote Similar to last season, a puck moving-moving, offensive-minded defenseman and a supremely skilled forward top the Red Wings' wish list heading into the draft on June 21 and 22 in Vancouver. After Hughes, Kakko and Podkolzin there isn't a definitive pecking order of how the rest of the top 12 to 15 picks will play out, but here's a list of 15 players that have the strongest possibility of having their name called by Detroit, depending on where the Wings land Tuesday night at the draft lottery in Toronto. Quote 1. Jack Hughes: Center, 5-foot-10-1/4, 168 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: USA NTDP (USHL) GP-41 G-23 Pts-86 Described as a generational talent, Hughes has superb speed, extraordinary vision, deft passing ability, high hockey IQ, deceptive moves, soft hands, a terrific wrist shot and is a world class playmaker. He's destined to be an NHL superstar. 2. Kaapo Kakko: Center/Right Wing, 6-foot-2-1/4, 194 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: Turku (SM Liga) GP-45 G-22 Pts-38 Big and strong, Kakko is a multidimensional talent who has a skill level off the charts. A highly competitive players who plays well with or without puck, he makes plays all over ice. 3. Vasili Podkolzin: Right Wing, 6-foot-1, 183 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: St. Petersburg (MHL) GP-12 G-6 Pts-8 A tough player who enjoys playing the rough and tumble game, Podkolzin's compete level is second to none. When you combine his on-ice intensity with his superior skill level, he's a player who'll do whatever it takes to win. Quote 4. Dylan Cozens: Center, 6-foot-3, 181 pounds. Shoots: Right Team: Lethbridge (WHL) GP-68 G-34 Pts-84 A high energy player who can play center or wing, Cozens is big and physical who is an excellent skater with a hard and accurate shot. 5. Bowen Byram: Defenseman, 6-foot-1/2, 193 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: Vancouver (WHL) GP-67 G-26 Pts-71 Byram is a dynamic offensive force who has a skill set which allows him to dictate the pace of the game. He can quarterback a power play, has a hard-accurate slap shot and possesses an extremely calm demeanor. 6. Trevor Zegras: Center, 6-foot, 166 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: USA NTDP (USHL) GP-54 G-26 Pts-78 Zegras has been moving up the draft boards all year due to his intelligence and smooth playmaking ability. He plays an engaged game and has proven he is unflappable by consistently making the right play in high pressure situations. Quote 7. Kirby Dach: Center/Right Wing, 6-foot-3-1/2, 199 pounds. Shoots: Right Team: Saskatoon (WHL) GP-62 G-25 Pts-73 A big playmaking forward who gets his teammates involved in the play. Dach's huge wingspan allows him to protect the puck giving him time to make heady plays in the attacking zone. 8. Matthew Boldy: Left Wing, 6-foot-2, 187 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: USA NTDP (USHL) GP-55 G-30 Pts-69 Rarely makes a mistake, Boldy is extremely smart, a powerful skater with a high skill level. He has the ability to score from anywhere on the ice. 9. Alex Turcotte: Center, 5-foot-11, 189 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: USA NTDP (USHL) GP-30 G-23 Pts-53 An excellent play maker with blazing speed, Turcotte's hockey IQ is extraordinary, he possesses a powerful wrist shot which he doesn't need much room to get off. Quote 10. Peyton Krebs: Left Wing/Center, 5-foot-11, 181 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: Kootenay (WHL) GP-64 G-19 Pts-68 Krebs plays an all-around game who thinks pass first but can also put the puck in the net. He does not shy away from the physical play. 11. Philip Broberg: Defenseman, 6-foot-3, 203 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: AIK (SWE-Als) GP-41 G-2 Pts-9 Broberg is a solid two-way defenseman who skates well with good speed, possesses above average puck skills and has the potential to develop into a top four NHL blueliner. 12. Arthur Kaliyev: Right Wing, 6-foot-2, 190 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: Hamilton (OHL) GP-67 G-51 Pts-102 A big-time goal scorer with an arsenal of shots, Kaliyev handles the puck well, has good speed and is able to create his own shot. Quote 13. Victor Soderstrom: Defenseman, 5-foot-11, 179 pounds. Shoots: Right Team: Brynas (SWE IF J20) GP-58 G-5 Pts-15 A smooth two-way blueliner, Soderstrom looks to make the stretch pass first when moving the puck out of his own end. He has a hard and accurate wrist shot and plays with confidence, he wants the puck. 14. Thomas Harley: Defenseman, 6-foot-3, 188 pounds. Shoots: Left Team: Mississauga (OHL) GP-68 G-11 Pts-58 Harley is a big defenseman who has made significant strides in all aspects of his game. A good skater with soft hands, Harley's improved play has made him a legitimate first-round pick. 15. Spencer Knight: Goalie, 6-foot-3, 196 pounds. Catches: Left Team: USA NTDP (USHL) GP-39 W-27 L-6 GAA-2.56 SV%-.911 SO-1 Considered to be one of the top goaltending prospects in recent years, Knight is mentally tough, big, athletic, smart and has the uncanny ability to always be in the right position to make the save. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted April 8, 2019 I want to stress that that top ten is a really good group of players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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