2022 Draft / UFA

[bIueadams 776]

3 hours ago, redw1ngs said:

I have 1/8 Swedish blood so love me some good Swedes.

I think alot of people know Soderblom is going to be good but I dont think many people know just how good this kid is going to be. Same goes for Edvinsson. 2 gems.

Mika Zabinejad is the last true swede

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

7 hours ago, bIueadams said:

Mika Zabinejad is the last true swede

Lindstrom got his face punched in.  We better get a tough guy, or it doesnt matter how many nancy boy Swedes we add.  Theyre so soft, its sad.  ZERO testicles.  All ice capades.  Yzerman is seriously leaving this team open to injury right now.  This offseason needs to include some knuckles or we are going to get run hard as we get better.

[Akakabuto 1,863]

10 hours ago, bIueadams said:

Mika Zabinejad is the last true swede

I will buy tickets for the inevitable biopic.

2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Lindstrom got his face punched in.  We better get a tough guy, or it doesnt matter how many nancy boy Swedes we add.  Theyre so soft, its sad.  ZERO testicles.  All ice capades.  Yzerman is seriously leaving this team open to injury right now.  This offseason needs to include some knuckles or we are going to get run hard as we get better.

Everybody knows its how you take a beating that shows real strength. Where were all the American players taking fists to their faces? Hurrying off to the locker room? Sad.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

1 hour ago, Akakabuto said:

I will buy tickets for the inevitable biopic.

Everybody knows its how you take a beating that shows real strength. Where were all the American players taking fists to their faces? Hurrying off to the locker room? Sad.

The SHL doesnt have much fighting, does it?

[Akakabuto 1,863]

5 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

The SHL doesnt have much fighting, does it?

Neither does the NHL. Americans and Canadians go home - this is our game now.

[F.Michael 4,590]

6 hours ago, Akakabuto said:

I will buy tickets for the inevitable biopic.

Everybody knows its how you take a beating that shows real strength. Where were all the American players taking fists to their faces? Hurrying off to the locker room? Sad.

Silly Scando - don't ya know about 'psy ops'?

We have to get on Facebook, Twitter,  and Tik Tok immediately afterwards to proclaim how great we are!

 

[kipwinger 8,771]

If you don’t play this game with a big heart and a big bag o’ knuckles in front of the net, you don’t got dinky do.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

1 hour ago, Akakabuto said:

Neither does the NHL. Americans and Canadians go home - this is our game now.

touche.  good point.  i guess i just hate seeing our guys get ragdolled.  

[Akakabuto 1,863]

5 hours ago, F.Michael said:

Silly Scando - don't ya know about 'psy ops'?

We have to get on Facebook, Twitter,  and Tik Tok immediately afterwards to proclaim how great we are!

 

Yes, I know all social media is one giant psy op. 

[bIueadams 776]

21 minutes ago, Akakabuto said:

Yes, I know all social media is one giant psy op. 

I don't even see posts anymore. All I see is bait, shill, falseflag, psy-op bull s***.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

6 hours ago, bIueadams said:

I don't even see posts anymore. All I see is bait, shill, falseflag, psy-op bull s***.

What you do, basically!

[kipwinger 8,771]

Anyone else think Cutter Gauthier might be an Yzerman sleeper pick here? I've been too tunnel visioned on Nazar, Kasper, and Lekkerimaki to notice the 6'3 200 lb. C/W that's leading the US NTDP in goals. Supposedly super competitive with a bit of a bully streak. I don't think I'd hate it.

[redw1ngs 149]

38 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

Anyone else think Cutter Gauthier might be an Yzerman sleeper pick here? I've been too tunnel visioned on Nazar, Kasper, and Lekkerimaki to notice the 6'3 200 lb. C/W that's leading the US NTDP in goals. Supposedly super competitive with a bit of a bully streak. I don't think I'd hate it.

With a name like Cutter and a physique like that sign me up.

[bIueadams 776]

I still think Brannstrom for Zadina straight up is a deal that could happen. Brann is buried behind Chabot and Sanderson. Zadina can't make our top 6 and is going to be buried behind Sundqvist on the right side now. Meanwhile we could use Brann on the left side with Seider or Hronek, and Ottawa could use another young gifted (they hope) forward to pair with Stutzle.

Would you consider OEL? Vancouver seems to hate him and he's getting paid 7.5 for the next 5 years. If he could be had for very little cost...?

 

[redw1ngs 149]

Brannstrom?

Swedish - yes please

5'10" - no thanks

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

2 hours ago, bIueadams said:

I still think Brannstrom for Zadina straight up is a deal that could happen. Brann is buried behind Chabot and Sanderson. Zadina can't make our top 6 and is going to be buried behind Sundqvist on the right side now. Meanwhile we could use Brann on the left side with Seider or Hronek, and Ottawa could use another young gifted (they hope) forward to pair with Stutzle.

Would you consider OEL? Vancouver seems to hate him and he's getting paid 7.5 for the next 5 years. If he could be had for very little cost...?

 

OEL at 5 years only if I'm getting something else in the deal.

Zadina trade is possible, but I would rather it be a package deal for a 2C.

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

4 hours ago, bIueadams said:

I still think Brannstrom for Zadina straight up is a deal that could happen. Brann is buried behind Chabot and Sanderson. Zadina can't make our top 6 and is going to be buried behind Sundqvist on the right side now. Meanwhile we could use Brann on the left side with Seider or Hronek, and Ottawa could use another young gifted (they hope) forward to pair with Stutzle.

Would you consider OEL? Vancouver seems to hate him and he's getting paid 7.5 for the next 5 years. If he could be had for very little cost...?

 

If Vancouver would retain 2.5 mil per year, why not.

[bIueadams 776]

https://mobile.twitter.com/emilymkaplan/status/1512178656772304896?s=21&t=UKyhb0MoKqplcGO0YJwBcA

Emily Kaplan confirming Wings are front runner for Ben Meyers. 

Yzerman has got to be prepping for a trade. We will have so many forwards. Even with Fabbri missing the start of the season.

Vrana - Larkin - Raymond

Fabbri - Suter - Bertuzzi

Erne - Rasmussen - Sundqvist

Smith - Stephens - Zadina

Meyers - Veleno - Andreasson

Then what if Pearson, Berggren, or Soderblom make a big impact at camp? 

We have basically no room to even sign new UFAs. Say we sign a Copp or a Trochek or something... we will have to start waiving multiple decent players beyond just Smith. 

I think we should be looking to trade one or multiple of Suter, Erne, Zadina, Smith at the draft. Go into the season with something like this:

Vrana - Larkin - Raymond

Rasmussen - Copp/Trocheck - Bertuzzi

Meyers - Veleno - Sundqvist

Erne - Stephens - Andreasson

Smith

IR: Fabbri

Surely we can package Suter + Zadina for some help on the blueline? 

[bIueadams 776]

Business idea:

To DET: Pavel Zacha

To NJD: Filip Zadina + 4th + 7th

NJ was shopping Zacha at the TDL. He just turned 25 and is stuck behind Hughes and Hischier on the 3rd line. Kinda hard to peg him. 2 years ago he was on pace for 40 pts, last year he was on pace for 57 pts, but now only 35 pts. 

NJ gets a younger high drafted project winger to pair with Hughes and Hischier and some throw in picks. We get our center.

I do think Zacha might play a lot better here. In recent years he's been stuck on the 3rd and his best winger has been Tatar when Hughes is injured. He could be playing with Bertuzzi and Vrana here. He'd also bring needed size and physicality to our lineup.

Fabbri - Larkin - Raymond

Vrana - Zacha - Bertuzzi

Rasmussen - Suter - Sundqvist

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

6 hours ago, bIueadams said:

Business idea:

To DET: Pavel Zacha

To NJD: Filip Zadina + 4th + 7th

NJ was shopping Zacha at the TDL. He just turned 25 and is stuck behind Hughes and Hischier on the 3rd line. Kinda hard to peg him. 2 years ago he was on pace for 40 pts, last year he was on pace for 57 pts, but now only 35 pts. 

NJ gets a younger high drafted project winger to pair with Hughes and Hischier and some throw in picks. We get our center.

I do think Zacha might play a lot better here. In recent years he's been stuck on the 3rd and his best winger has been Tatar when Hughes is injured. He could be playing with Bertuzzi and Vrana here. He'd also bring needed size and physicality to our lineup.

Fabbri - Larkin - Raymond

Vrana - Zacha - Bertuzzi

Rasmussen - Suter - Sundqvist

I wouldn't make this deal if I was New Jersey.

Zadina + 2024 1st, and this is fair.

 

Scott

[LeftWinger 5,153]

So if Detroit lands Ben Meyers, and with Mitchell coming back, who gets waived? Dekeyser again is my guess.

[LeftWinger 5,153]

@blueadams I really don't see Yzerman signing many bigger name UFA's this summer. I don't think team has yet to turn the corner to add a bigger name to carry them over the hump. But you just never know! I'd love to see us land Meyers, but that may be it in the UFA category, unless, like you said, he's lining up a trade or two. I know Zadina is still young, but you can't rule out him being dealt, also Hronek has value, both with his play, Right Handed, young, and cost controlled for a bit. Definitely going to be an interesting summer an camp next season. I would say dump Zadina, but with (probably) a new coaching staff coming in this summer, he may turn his game into what is was touted to be! But I do agree, we need to focus on upgrading that top 6 C position. I like Suter, but he seems more like a bottom 6. Him and Veleno can cover that for us. 

[Jonas Mahonas 1,872]

54 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

@blueadams I really don't see Yzerman signing many bigger name UFA's this summer. I don't think team has yet to turn the corner to add a bigger name to carry them over the hump. But you just never know! I'd love to see us land Meyers, but that may be it in the UFA category, unless, like you said, he's lining up a trade or two. I know Zadina is still young, but you can't rule out him being dealt, also Hronek has value, both with his play, Right Handed, young, and cost controlled for a bit. Definitely going to be an interesting summer an camp next season. I would say dump Zadina, but with (probably) a new coaching staff coming in this summer, he may turn his game into what is was touted to be! But I do agree, we need to focus on upgrading that top 6 C position. I like Suter, but he seems more like a bottom 6. Him and Veleno can cover that for us. 

Suter is trash.  I have no idea why I am the only one seeing him get scored on almost every game.  He's a weakling and doesnt take his man.  I hope he's traded next year.

Edited April 9, 2022 by Jonas Mahonas

[bIueadams 776]

11 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

Suter is trash.  I have no idea why I am the only one seeing him get scored on almost every game.  He's a weakling and doesnt take his man.  I hope he's traded next year.

I don't care much for Suter. He's like a younger version of Nielsen/Filppula.

12 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

@blueadams I really don't see Yzerman signing many bigger name UFA's this summer. I don't think team has yet to turn the corner to add a bigger name to carry them over the hump. But you just never know! I'd love to see us land Meyers, but that may be it in the UFA category, unless, like you said, he's lining up a trade or two. I know Zadina is still young, but you can't rule out him being dealt, also Hronek has value, both with his play, Right Handed, young, and cost controlled for a bit. Definitely going to be an interesting summer an camp next season. I would say dump Zadina, but with (probably) a new coaching staff coming in this summer, he may turn his game into what is was touted to be! But I do agree, we need to focus on upgrading that top 6 C position. I like Suter, but he seems more like a bottom 6. Him and Veleno can cover that for us. 

In all fairness, I'd be willing to wait to trade Zadina if a new coach is coming on. Give Z one last shot under a new coach. But I would need to see fast and substantial improvement under a new coach. If there's only marginal gains I'll still be in the trade him camp.

[marcaractac 3,963]

Lots of Wings info on the latest 32 thoughts podcast. 

The belief is the Wings rebuild is gonna take longer than many think, as Yzerman is not done adding high-end draft picks. Will not take big UFA swings until then.

Be prepared for more veteran UFA signings that can be flipped at the deadline.