kipwinger 8,613 Report post Posted May 11, 2023 Just now, The 91 of Ryans said: Jersey is my least watched team in these playoffs. I know they're getting caved by Carolina's forecheck (who doesn't theses days?). What's the problem with Meier? Only thing I can think of is that he doesn't really fit in an up tempo, transition based, offense like Jersey has. He's lethal off the cycle, and it seems like that's when he's most effective. But that isn't really Jersey's thing. Regardless, he's been bad. 1 goals in 9 games. And his qualifying offer is MASSIVE. This is not as clear cut a decision for Jersey as it might have seemed at the trade deadline. 1 The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted May 11, 2023 Other team we can poach off of this year: Vancouver. Tampa. Calgary. All up against the cap, and VAN is rumored to be hot n heavy for some cap relief. I doubt Van trades any of Hughes, Pettersson, Kuzmenko, or Miller... but they have a load of other options to pick from. What about Ethan Bear? RHD. Turning 26 soon. Steady bottom 4 D. We could possibly trade for his RFA rights for cheap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Walman6million said: Other team we can poach off of this year: Vancouver. Tampa. Calgary. All up against the cap, and VAN is rumored to be hot n heavy for some cap relief. I doubt Van trades any of Hughes, Pettersson, Kuzmenko, or Miller... but they have a load of other options to pick from. What about Ethan Bear? RHD. Turning 26 soon. Steady bottom 4 D. We could possibly trade for his RFA rights for cheap? Hughes for both 9th and 17/18th picks ? EDIT - or Pettersson… Edited May 11, 2023 by F.Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted May 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, F.Michael said: Hughes for both 9th and 17/18th picks ? EDIT - or Pettersson… Theyre not trading Hughes, Petterson, Kuzmenko, or Miller boomer Think Garland, Boeser, Bear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Walman6million said: Other team we can poach off of this year: Vancouver. Tampa. Calgary. All up against the cap, and VAN is rumored to be hot n heavy for some cap relief. I doubt Van trades any of Hughes, Pettersson, Kuzmenko, or Miller... but they have a load of other options to pick from. What about Ethan Bear? RHD. Turning 26 soon. Steady bottom 4 D. We could possibly trade for his RFA rights for cheap? I dunno, I feel like we talk about poaching cap-strapped teams every year and it never really happens. I almost wanna say GMs have some kind of agreement with SY such that he's only allowed to try his hand at victimizing them if they're not in a clear position of weakness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted May 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Dabura said: I dunno, I feel like we talk about poaching cap-strapped teams every year and it never really happens. I almost wanna say GMs have some kind of agreement with SY such that he's only allowed to try his hand at victimizing them if they're not in a clear position of weakness. Weak UFA class. Lots of teams against the cap. Seems a prime year for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted May 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Walman6million said: Weak UFA class. Lots of teams against the cap. Seems a prime year for it. No I agree. I'm all for it. I just wonder whether SY will do it, given the track record (or lack thereof). Weren't there whispers about us looking at Meier in the lead-up to the trade deadline? He's been a ghost in the playoffs. Maybe NJ and other teams decide he isn't worth what they'd thought he was worth a couple months ago? He's gonna be 27 in October, which maybe isn't absolutely perfect for our timeline, but I feel like a top line of Meier-Larkin-Raymond could be pretty nasty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted May 12, 2023 I just hope if Yzerman gives up any first-round picks that it is to bring in guys who fit the Seider-Raymond-Kasper timeline and not the Larkin timeline. I want to see a nice long contention window like Tampa, or Boston. Not St. Louis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 314 Report post Posted May 12, 2023 10 hours ago, marcaractac said: I just hope if Yzerman gives up any first-round picks that it is to bring in guys who fit the Seider-Raymond-Kasper timeline and not the Larkin timeline. I want to see a nice long contention window like Tampa, or Boston. Not St. Louis. According to CRL, St Louis never had a timeline. 1 Jonas Mahonas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted May 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Axl Foley said: According to CRL, St Louis never had a timeline. According to your mom, it's all good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted May 13, 2023 Sign Radko Gudas. 2 Jonas Mahonas and Walman6million reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 314 Report post Posted May 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said: According to your mom, it's all good what does this even mean? 43 minutes ago, Dabura said: Sign Radko Gudas. His name sounds like a pungent cheese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted May 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Axl Foley said: His name sounds like a pungent cheese. He's an absolute turd biscuit, but I'd love him as a Wing lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted May 13, 2023 16 hours ago, marcaractac said: I just hope if Yzerman gives up any first-round picks that it is to bring in guys who fit the Seider-Raymond-Kasper timeline and not the Larkin timeline. I want to see a nice long contention window like Tampa, or Boston. Not St. Louis. I'm not necessarily opposed to trading a prime 1st for a guy who's closer to 30 than 20, provided it's someone with an excellent body of work and no durability issues (e.g. Kyle Connor). Because while it's true that our fortunes are now tied to Seider, Raymond, et al., we have a definite need for at least one additional high-end "veteran" leader like Larkin, especially with Bertuzzi now gone. 1 ely s reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted May 13, 2023 18 hours ago, Dabura said: I'm not necessarily opposed to trading a prime 1st for a guy who's closer to 30 than 20, provided it's someone with an excellent body of work and no durability issues (e.g. Kyle Connor). Because while it's true that our fortunes are now tied to Seider, Raymond, et al., we have a definite need for at least one additional high-end "veteran" leader like Larkin, especially with Bertuzzi now gone. couldve jut kept berttuzzi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted May 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Walman6million said: couldve jut kept berttuzzi He's gonna have the body of a 50-year-old when he's 30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,228 Report post Posted May 14, 2023 All I know is SY needs to add a legit first-line scoring winger this summer, because we can't go into next season with Perron/Kubalik/Rasmussen-Larkin-Raymond. If it's DeBrincat, cool. If it's Bratt, cool. If it's Meier, cool. If it's Connor, cool. Just get it done. 3 ely s, Rick D and Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted May 14, 2023 How do we get Gudas? He's coming off $2.5 mil and will be 33 in June. His previous contract was $3.5. IMO the important part is keeping the term small. Offer $3 x 2? Do you think the lack of Dmen on the open market will drive his cost/term higher than this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 314 Report post Posted May 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Walman6million said: How do we get Gudas? He's coming off $2.5 mil and will be 33 in June. His previous contract was $3.5. IMO the important part is keeping the term small. Offer $3 x 2? Do you think the lack of Dmen on the open market will drive his cost/term higher than this? He has gotten a lot of credit for the Panthers surge. He will be overpriced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walman6million 250 Report post Posted May 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Axl Foley said: He has gotten a lot of credit for the Panthers surge. He will be overpriced. He's been one of their best Dmen and deserves it. When he signed with the Panthers everyone said $2.5 x 3 years was an over-payment. But it's paid off for them. I'm willing to outbid other teams on this player at this point. Just keep term short. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Walman6million said: He's been one of their best Dmen and deserves it. When he signed with the Panthers everyone said $2.5 x 3 years was an over-payment. But it's paid off for them. I'm willing to outbid other teams on this player at this point. Just keep term short. We are fine at D. We need O. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axl Foley 314 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Jonas Mahonas said: We are fine at D. We need O. Chiarot hater extreme thinks we're fine at D? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 On 5/12/2023 at 8:01 PM, Axl Foley said: According to CRL, St Louis never had a timeline. They basically didn't. They were a really good, but not great team there for a stretch of years. They happened to get hot at the right time one season and went the distance. On 5/13/2023 at 1:41 AM, Dabura said: I'm not necessarily opposed to trading a prime 1st for a guy who's closer to 30 than 20, provided it's someone with an excellent body of work and no durability issues (e.g. Kyle Connor). Because while it's true that our fortunes are now tied to Seider, Raymond, et al., we have a definite need for at least one additional high-end "veteran" leader like Larkin, especially with Bertuzzi now gone. I feel like this can be accomplished via UFA next summer tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
town123 200 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, marcaractac said: They basically didn't. They were a really good, but not great team there for a stretch of years. They happened to get hot at the right time one season and went the distance. I feel like this can be accomplished via UFA next summer tbh. I agree. This may be the last time we have 5 picks this high. Stock those cupboards. 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, marcaractac said: They basically didn't. They were a really good, but not great team there for a stretch of years. They happened to get hot at the right time one season and went the distance. I feel like this can be accomplished via UFA next summer tbh. Next summer or this upcoming summer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites