2024 TDL Thread

[Dabura 12,232]

Watching ostensibly intelligent people talk up the Isles like they're much better than the Wings because the Wings don't have a superstar something something something Patrick Roy something something something is really something to behold.

 

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

13 minutes ago, Dabura said:

Watching ostensibly intelligent people talk up the Isles like they're much better than the Wings because the Wings don't have a superstar something something something Patrick Roy something something something is really something to behold.

 

these guys are like the losers in town that are still trying to promote their band

 

[Troy McClure 347]

Reminder that Aaron Ward beat his wife and got away with it, just like Lucic.

[Troy McClure 347]

We can probably get a 2nd for each of Kane, Sprong, Ghost, and Perron? No? Yes?

I wanna keep Fischer.

But boy oh buddy boys we could get a lot of extra pretty good picks this year... maybe use them to trade up?

[Axl Foley 334]

10 hours ago, Troy McClure said:

We can probably get a 2nd for each of Kane, Sprong, Ghost, and Perron? No? Yes?

I wanna keep Fischer.

But boy oh buddy boys we could get a lot of extra pretty good picks this year... maybe use them to trade up?

SY could do better than that.

[LeftWinger 5,150]

Even if they fall out of the playoffs by TDL, Kane isn't being dealt. Sprong could get dealt either way, because he'll probably walk come July. Try to get something for him. But maybe if they make it, Yzerman would rather keep him for the run and just let him walk later. They gotta upgrade the top 6, middle pairing and G position if they're gonna go for the playoffs.

I'm still liking sniping Markstrom out of Calgary. Give me Markstrom and Andersson in a shocking Yzerman deal that upsets the whole playoff picture! Whoever he acquires, it won't be a pure rental. It'll be a piece that will be here for years to come. G position being different of course. Sometimes getting that 30+ goalie is the best move while your guys grow.  Even if he acquires a UFA to be, it'll only be because he's confident they'll be staying for another contract at least. He isn't giving up 1sts or Berggren for a rental. 

Edited February 19, 2024 by LeftWinger

[stephen-gregory-yzerman 142]

I agree with going hard after Rasmus Andersson rather then Hanifin or Chychrun. Were set on LD with Walman, Edvinsson, Maatta/Johansson/Wallinder. We need to bolster RD behind Seider and ASP. Andersson would be a perfect fit imo.

Walman-Seider
Edvinsson-Andersson
Johansson/Wallinder-ASP

[Dabura 12,232]

20 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

these guys are like the losers in town that are still trying to promote their band

Fixed it!

(Tho the old guy seems moderately based tbf.)

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

Imagine how much Yzerman could get for Sprong’s negotiating rights after he wins the Conn Smyth 

Just now, Dabura said:

Fixed it!

(Tho the old guy seems moderately based tbf.)

Must be the bass player 

Edited February 19, 2024 by The 91 of Ryans

[Troy McClure 347]

9 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Even if they fall out of the playoffs by TDL, Kane isn't being dealt. Sprong could get dealt either way, because he'll probably walk come July. Try to get something for him. But maybe if they make it, Yzerman would rather keep him for the run and just let him walk later. They gotta upgrade the top 6, middle pairing and G position if they're gonna go for the playoffs.

I'm still liking sniping Markstrom out of Calgary. Give me Markstrom and Andersson in a shocking Yzerman deal that upsets the whole playoff picture! Whoever he acquires, it won't be a pure rental. It'll be a piece that will be here for years to come. G position being different of course. Sometimes getting that 30+ goalie is the best move while your guys grow.  Even if he acquires a UFA to be, it'll only be because he's confident they'll be staying for another contract at least. He isn't giving up 1sts or Berggren for a rental. 

Why? If SY sells Kane isn't going to want to be here anymore

[Dabura 12,232]

Sens beat the Bolts in regulation.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

9 minutes ago, Dabura said:

Sens beat the Bolts in regulation.

ha ha ha

[Motor City Mullets 313]

14 minutes ago, Dabura said:

Sens beat the Bolts in regulation.

 

[Dabura 12,232]

Real talk tho. If we keep winning, it'd take some pretty big balls on Yzermanager to stand pat.

[Troy McClure 347]

1 minute ago, Dabura said:

Real talk tho. If we keep winning, it'd take some pretty big balls on Yzermanager to stand pat.

I think we could win out the rest of these games - and SY still wouldn't believe we are a contender.

He's immune to knee jerk thinking. Damn that man.

[Dabura 12,232]

Just now, Troy McClure said:

I think we could win out the rest of these games - and SY still wouldn't believe we are a contender.

He's immune to knee jerk thinking. Damn that man.

I guess I'm just kinda wondering what the plan is here.

Larkin right now is probably the best he's going to be.

Seider and Raymond have become leaders and this is the last time you'll have them on ELCs.

Lyon feels a bit like lightning in a bottle; he could fall off next season and then we'd be boned in net.

If we're waiting for the next wave of prospects to establish themselves as impact players, we're probably gonna be waiting another two or three or more years.

Edvinsson's probably gonna be RealGud at some point, but I dunno that he's a serious impact NHLer now or even next season.

I'm happy that Kasper's playing better of late, but I dunno that he's an impact NHLer next season or even the season after that.

Danielson probably spends at least a year in the AHL.

ASP's got a long way to go, I fear.

Soderblom's starting to feel like a 7th-round pick.

Berggren seems to be on his way out.

Mazur...is pretty good...in the AHL...when he's not hurt...?

So...what's the score? Where we at? Are we waiting for Seider to learn how to play 50 minutes a night? Are we waiting on a big fish in free agency?

I'm not even asking for any blockbuster moves. I just want winning to be rewarded. If we're still in a wildcard spot at the end of the month, I think the worst thing you could do to this team is tell them: "Well, this was never really gonna be a big push year for us anyway, because we've got prospects coming and that means we have to wait a bit longer, because what we're working towards is having a team that's got some depth to it. And the D group I put together was really more just kind of a treading water kinda thing, because we've got some prospects coming."

Don't mortgage the future. But if it really does look like we're headed for a best-of-seven with Boston/Florida/NYR, let's invest in ruining that franchise's season.

[The 91 of Ryans 3,019]

7 hours ago, Dabura said:

I guess I'm just kinda wondering what the plan is here.

Larkin right now is probably the best he's going to be.

Seider and Raymond have become leaders and this is the last time you'll have them on ELCs.

Lyon feels a bit like lightning in a bottle; he could fall off next season and then we'd be boned in net.

If we're waiting for the next wave of prospects to establish themselves as impact players, we're probably gonna be waiting another two or three or more years.

Edvinsson's probably gonna be RealGud at some point, but I dunno that he's a serious impact NHLer now or even next season.

I'm happy that Kasper's playing better of late, but I dunno that he's an impact NHLer next season or even the season after that.

Danielson probably spends at least a year in the AHL.

ASP's got a long way to go, I fear.

Soderblom's starting to feel like a 7th-round pick.

Berggren seems to be on his way out.

Mazur...is pretty good...in the AHL...when he's not hurt...?

So...what's the score? Where we at? Are we waiting for Seider to learn how to play 50 minutes a night? Are we waiting on a big fish in free agency?

I'm not even asking for any blockbuster moves. I just want winning to be rewarded. If we're still in a wildcard spot at the end of the month, I think the worst thing you could do to this team is tell them: "Well, this was never really gonna be a big push year for us anyway, because we've got prospects coming and that means we have to wait a bit longer, because what we're working towards is having a team that's got some depth to it. And the D group I put together was really more just kind of a treading water kinda thing, because we've got some prospects coming."

Don't mortgage the future. But if it really does look like we're headed for a best-of-seven with Boston/Florida/NYR, let's invest in ruining that franchise's season.

AMEN!

Also, what's the point of having a 4-line-deep top offence if it's not to flex in the post season. Like, for example, this team has better D and goaltending then the Leafs and will get goals out of more than 1 or 2 players in April.  If those 1 or 2 players even show up.  

[LeftWinger 5,150]

11 hours ago, Troy McClure said:

Why? If SY sells Kane isn't going to want to be here anymore

Yes I think he'll be fine. The people that Yzerman sells probably weren't going to be around next season anyhow. But as we inch closer to March 8, it just feels like Yzerman is gonna be buying instead of selling. We might be saying goodbye to some picks and prospects. Especially if he can acquire a player that'll be around for years. As mentioned, my homerun TDL would be Andersson and Markstrom. But I wouldn't be surprised if he acquires something more like Vatrano and Chychrun. We could use some top 6 help. Vatrano is 29 though, so even if he swiped Andersson and Markstrom, he may still look for a forward.

I just can't imagine how much better this team would be with those two on it! Now and moving forward. Markstrom and Lyon while we wait for Cossa and Augustine. Then also the 6 D for next season I listed earlier. Probably won't happen, but we'd be the TDL winners if you ask me!

[Axl Foley 334]

8 hours ago, Dabura said:

 

Lyon feels a bit like lightning in a bottle; he could fall off next season and then we'd be boned in net.

I don't wanna get boned on the back end next season.

9 hours ago, Dabura said:

Real talk tho. If we keep winning, it'd take some pretty big balls on Yzermanager to stand pat.

which is why he will do nothing

[LeftWinger 5,150]

I just have this odd feeling Yzerman is at the point to where he'll be mortgaging some futures for upgrades now. @Dabura said it, we'd hate to be screwed in G next season if Lyon turns out to just have "one of those seasons." It happened with Ned, its happened with Husso to an extent, and now he's is just injury prone. Stealing Markstrom out from under other teams (especially Jersey, looking to pass us) would not only help this year, but he's got 2 more seasons on his contract. He's at $6M, but Calgary is expected to have over $22M next season in cap space. Maybe Yzerman can get them to retain some salary somehow. Markstrom has got to be the best G available. Plus having 2 years left, he can ride with Lyon next season and then in 2 years see where Cossa stands. D needs an upgrade, not just now either, moving forward. Whether that be Chychrun, Hanifin (who has said he'd love to sign long-term in Tampa, so he'd probably be a pure rental, which i think Yzerman would avoid) or if we could get Andersson. 

It's all unknown, but I'm definitely on the "buy" bandwagon!

 

[AtlantaHotWings 1,135]

I watched the video finally and this idea where you HAVE to have a superstar seems meh to me.

Remind me the number of cups between McJesus and Matthews? Ovie has like 1, Crosby has 3 but they also drafted beyond stupid in the early 2000s which led to him having a hella supporting staff. I think the ability to roll 4 lines that can defend and score is better than a loaded 1st line of "stars" and of course you need a solid G. 

Are our forward lines all that great probably not but are they all pulling the sled the same way I think so. I think this team has that play for each other mentality which as we have seen minus the Oil/Nucks games enables the non panic attitude when down.

Our D ...not going there...LOL 

Do we have that solid dependable non-superstar G ...maybe/maybe not. Reimer needs to come in and cover a game or 2 up to the TDL and bit beyond looking at the next 9 games. Where else do you give LION a rest or do you?

Avs,

Blues back to back with Hawks so Reimer plays

Caps,

Islanders,

Cats,

Avs 

Coyotes back to back with Vegas so Reimer plays

Overwork last year as we know was Husso's downfall. I beginning to think Husso might be toast for the season which to be honest might not be that bad. 

[kipwinger 8,762]

Discussing the trade deadline today, Max Bultman of The Athletic speculated that Alex Wenneberg, Nic Dowd, and Pavel Buchnevich might be players of interest to Detroit. Lalonde has mentioned publicly that he'd like Yzerman to add a "utility foward" at the deadline and I think all three fit the bill to varying degrees. Buchnevich is the best player, Dowd would be the cheapest, and Wenneberg is somewhere in between.

Edit: The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Wennberg. He and Sprong had chemistry in Seattle a year ago and he won't break the bank. That also allows us to get Veleno on the wing. I'd do something like

 

Veleno-Larkin-Raymond

Kane-Compher-Dcat

Perron-Wennberg-Sprong

Ras-Copp-Fischer

Edited February 20, 2024 by kipwinger

[LeftWinger 5,150]

We'll end up getting Vatrano for something like McIsaac and a pick, then we'll get Chychrun for Berggren. 

Before anyone says that's not enough, remember Yzerman got Debrincat for basically just a utility forward and a 29 or higher 1st. He'll be able to swing Berggren for Chychrun. I wonder if Soderblom is on someone's radar? He seems like he's fallen down the prospect list a little. With Calgary entering a bit of a rebuild they might be interested in prospects that are a couple steps away from the NHL.

[Dabura 12,232]

9 hours ago, Axl Foley said:

I don't wanna get boned on the back end next season.

which is why he will do nothing

[Motor City Mullets 313]

I'd like to mount her olive (till the break of dawn)...

Edited February 21, 2024 by Motor City Mullets