I guess nothing tells as much about the popularity of 80's NHL Hockey like being pre-empted on local non-network TV by Three's Company reruns.
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Posted by Buppy on 25 December 2010 - 04:55 AM
Posted by Buppy on 25 December 2010 - 03:21 AM
...I don't see what you mean I guess.
You two seem a little confused about what I was saying.
I don't hate Filppula is that he has a lot of potential but he never quite lives up to it... he always seems to be on the cusp of breaking out to be a 60 point player but then he cools down and plays mediocre for a few games. If he were a 3rd line guy that would be just fine, a 3rd line center putting up 40+ points is a wonderful thing to have, but as a second line center its just puts that much more pressure on the first line to produce. ....
Posted by Buppy on 19 December 2010 - 12:02 PM
If you want to discuss hockey, try one of the threads discussing hockey. If you want to discuss other teams and their fans, remember that this a Wings board, with a Wings bias, and the prevailing opinion about other teams is going to fall somewhere in the range of 'indifference' to 'they suck'. Deal.
I have to amend my statement about coming here and being able to discuss hockey with hockey fans in the past.
After looking at this thread I notice that except for haroldsnepts and hockeytown0001 you are all either newbees or old trolls. Makes me kind of sad, yeah, there was some ribbing both ways but it is fun to discuss hockey between different fan bases. ...
The right, sure. It's a free country. Those fans have the right to be classless douchebags. And we have the right to call them as such.
I never said he shouldn't have been booed. I said Hawks fans had every right to boo.
Never stated whether I would boo or not.
Idc if mickey generalized. what im trying to say is that it wasn't classless.
Forgive me if I rant a bit here.
I think you are missing the pointof what I am trying to say. Im not trying to say that Detroit dont have loyal fans, because they do. All I am saying is when people try to bash the Blackhawks fanbase and call most of them bandwagoners, then turn around and praise the Red wings fanbase, I just dont think a lot of them have the right to do that. The Red Wings have been in contention for two decades, so most of the fans around here (I didnt say all, I said most), have never had to experience the losing side of their team. Do you honestly think that if the Wings were to suck for the next 10 years all these "loyal" fans would stick around? I highly doubt it. Some of you would, I will even go a far as to say that a lot of them would, but you would see a good deal of them lose interest.
My whole point is if you have never been on the losing side you dont have the right to call out a fanbase that has had to deal with what us Blackhawk fans have had to deal with for a LONG time. That is not a knock on Detroits fanbase, im simply saying that a lot of Wing fans just dont get how bad it has been for Chicago, because they have never had to deal with it. You should be thankful you have had such a great organization, that pretty much any team would kill to have.
Posted by Buppy on 18 December 2010 - 07:58 PM
Well, I can't produce links. My sources are "people in the know". I don't blame you for not believing me. That's the way it happened, I'm sorry. My source actually likes Chelios and was likely one of the fans cheering him last night. Even if he is only guilty of changing his mind about detroit its still treasonous and he knows it....
Errrr he knows what he did.
I'll say up front that I don't know the whole situation regarding Federov but you guys booed him and he was one of the greats...Just read an article quoting Federov as saying they were call him a "commie" I guess... he said something like: "don't they know the Cold War is over?" LOL
He didn't "simply leave the team". I can go on and on about why they booed him. And I have but people don't get it. I just don't see how the fans are classless for booing and again it wasn't nearly 100%. There are still many people who respect what he did and those people cheered, I assume. Just not fair that Redmond painted all Hawks fans with the same brush, but I understand cause I know he loved Chelios and won 2 cups with the wings.
Posted by Buppy on 18 December 2010 - 05:58 PM
First of all, no matter what the circumstances of his departure were, it's still classless to jeer a former player on a night you're supposed to be honoring them. It's a sports rivalry, not af****** holy war. (And at the time of the trade, and even now, it's barely a legit rivalry. Though I guess Chicago fans would have a different perspective.) Boo him as a player, fine. There's a time and place for it, but last night was not it. If you can't show some respect and appreciation, at least remain silent. If you can't even do that, you're an ass. End of story.
Alright Gnida is a maroon.
Hawks fans are not classless/disrespectful or whatever for booing him. There were half cheers and half boos any way. He knew he was going to get booed; he told his wife. And despite what you people think, he did in fact negotiate a trade to the red wings. After declaring his "hatred" for the wings. He's from Chicago. Hawks fans had every right to boo him. Just because a google search doesn't find any results for "chelios negotiated trade to detroit" doesn't mean it didn't happen. It did. He, in fact, asked someone else in the organization to talk to Wirtz. That person refused and Chelios had to ask on his own. Chelios then had his agent come up with the deal to detroit. He said he hated detroit and is from Chicago(Evergreen Park actually, its just outside the far southwest side)then subsequently went there when he realized the team was going to s***. Sorry, that is betrayal of the highest form and he got what he deserved and he knew it was coming.
Posted by Buppy on 17 December 2010 - 12:10 AM
And there are times players are awarded assists without really doing anything to deserve them. There are times players deserve assists but don't get them. Hell, players can score goals without really doing anything. Hits, giveaways, and takeaways are all subjectively awarded.
As I said before, plus/minus is a worthless statistic. It can be affected positively or negatively without a player having any effect on the play.
Datsyuk wins the faceoff, passes to Zetterberg, Z shoots and scores. Homer, Lidstrom, and Stuart all get pluses also. Most of the opposing team's players wouldn't have had any chance to affect the play, yet they get a minus.
Tell me Crymson, what makes it such a wonderful stat when there's no way of telling how much effect a player actually has on it?
Posted by Buppy on 12 December 2010 - 01:05 AM
Everyone is getting all worked up but it is true. Does anyone here actually not think Ozzie is done? And he really did outplay Howard in Grand Rapids. Maybe he shouldn't have said it but what he said is true
Posted by Buppy on 02 December 2010 - 06:22 PM
My point was that it doesn't matter.
... The calendar we use is based on when the birth of Jesus is believed to have happened. There are years that happened before it, and years that have occurred since. As you clearly are not very intelligent, I will enlighten you. After 1 B.C. came 1 A.D., there was no "Year 0" which fell in between. The first decade A.D was 1 A.D to 10 A.D.
There was, it simply was not called as such. But for the purposes of our current calendar system, it matters.
Yes, a decade is a period of 10 years. But if we're basing them on numbered decades from our existing calendar, then it's 1991-200 and such. If we're simply basing it on the decade as a period of ten years, then why not divide it up starting with 1916-17 through 1925-26? If we're ignoring decade division from 1 A.D, then why not count starting with the inception of the league? That makes more sense than random division.
Posted by Buppy on 25 November 2010 - 06:57 PM
The cap is calculated on a day by day basis. There's 96 days until the trade deadline. Hudler's daily hit is $15,457. That's $1,483,872 in cap space we could bank for later use. Assuming no other roster changes, that money plus the $618,280 for the last 40 days after the deadline would be worth the equivalent of $9.775M in yearly salary. More than three times the space we would have if we waited.
I have no idea where you get that idea from. If we trade him for someone his cap goes off the books whether it is today or at the deadline.
Posted by Buppy on 22 November 2010 - 11:50 PM
Perron was paying attention to the pass he was about to receive, Stajan was carrying the puck with his head down. Huge difference.
perron wasn't paying attention either
Posted by Buppy on 14 November 2010 - 12:50 AM
Highlighting the positives is a lot less damaging than those who act like stepping across 8 mile is akin to storming the beaches of Normandy.
Statistic's tend to sharpen with the amount of information gone in, using a hockey season is a lot different than judging hundred's of thousands of people. I probably should have used "practically" instead of "literally", that's my fault on the word usage concerning third world countries. But the amount of corrupt behavior I've seen in the active government, the lack of law-enforcement, the lack of basic modern human needs in the area just left me with very few comparisons. The homeless/crime etc. rate are worse in Detroit than those other cities, and there ARE less people, which makes it that much more depressing. It's not a matter of too many people for shelter, it's a matter of basic human survival needs for an area with room too support a large number of people, it's just been a complete mismanagement of local government.
I'm not making light of a third world control as I'm focusing the light on the real problems of the city, and to say I'm trolling about a situation that I care so much about is offensive.
I applaud my friends for their efforts, but I almost feel it's wasted energy when the real matters of the city lie in the government and schools. Sure having a nice downtown is great, but I almost see the problem spreading outwards from the city. Lincoln Park, and Dearborn for example have become even more dangerous the last 10-15 years, it's not just Detroit, it's spreading to surrounding border area's. Warrendale for example has been completely trashed, I went to a Catholic school right off Warren, and it's now just a complete disaster area. I just feel the pockets of perfection have no impact on the roots of the problems, I suppose it doesn't hurt, but to act like it's a gigantic leap and a huge victory for the city is sad and hurting the city more than it's helping it.
To think that Detroit isn't as bad as it's made out to be because you can walk a couple blocks in the downtown to me is besides the point, and almost masks the major problems within the city. That's all I mean by that, I'm sincerely not trying to be offensive, but basing this on my experiences and observations from growing up in the city. I'm not being a hater, I'm being realistic, and doing what I feel needs to be done so the area can become what it once was.