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We would f*** that division up

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/rangers/2011/06/25/2011-06-25_richards_race_favors_rangers.html does any one else find it annoying that teams are able to bail themselves out of terrible contracts by sending players to the minors? Chicago doing with Huet last summer, the Oilers doing it with Souray, the Rangers doing it with Wade Redden. In my opinion, these teams should have to deal with the stupidity they bring upon themselves. Its an absolute cop out and they humiliate these players in the process by sending them to the minors. I hope the next CBA corrects this.

stopped after that..... I see the classless comments and no longer wish to continue this discussion with you. grow up and stop calling people YOU DO NOT KNOW... names. that is pretty rude in my opinion. and just so it is clear... I did call you a tool....because you decided to start the name calling... I wont do it again! I got sucked in and that was MY mistake...

My issue isn't with the player, its with the GM's and the team's management. Glen Sather is getting bailed out by this loophole: he gets to stuff a veteran in the minors and he is hoping that Chris Drury's injury is bad enough that he can put him on long term IR. That doesn't sound a little disgusting to you? And the result is now he gets a free shot at Brad Richards...so he can throw more stupid contracts around. It is ridiculous how he doesn't have to pay for his mistakes of offering terrible contracts. I just feel like GMs should not be able to be bailed out like that so easily...

It's very annoying. There's a salary cap for a reason. If you send a player to the minors/overseas...you should be responsible for 50% of his salary against that years cap. Only way I can think of to solve it. Above poster is correct about same agents/players being 'turned off' by how players are treated this way....but that seems like too small of a penalty to me. Wish we could have a soft cap with a 'luxury tax' in the NHL....oh well.

Oh I thought this was the "we're not winning the cup in 2012 thread" my bad.

There were no top end DMen left at the 24th spot so he traded down to get two picks and came away with one of the most skilled forwards in the draft and the highest rated offensive defenseman in the draft. How can you NOT get excited about that trade by Holland?

I swear to God I've seen this exact thread before....

They don't count and you know it . I see what you are saying, but I want to be proved otherwise. Thanks for a discussion.

One, the article doesn't say Babs is pissed at Kenny. You're all just assuming Kenny didn't make an offer, as if the hockey world revolves around us and every team looking to deal has to come to us for permission. For all we know Kenny did make an offer and was turned down, or Minny really liked SJs offer and Kenny never had a chance. I'm also disappointed that we didn't get Burns. I'm surprised the price was that low, and believe we could have offered something comparable. But I'm not going to get pissed at someone who's done so much for this team even if it comes out that he wasn't interested in Burns. There are reasons why Burns wouldn't be as attractive to us as he was to SJ. The Sharks also needed a top 4 defenseman. They don't have the cap space we do so their FA prospects aren't as good. Burns gives them a stud at a cheap price. They have the rest of their top 4 signed beyond this year; we already have 3 top 4 defenseman in their last year. Setoguchi was their 7th best forward; if we had to give up Flip or Franzen it'd be our 3rd/4th best, and our top 6 was already weaker than SJ's. If I hear that Minny asked us for Hudler and Emmerton and we turned it down, I'd be pissed. But if it would have been Flip and Nyquist, even though I'd still do it, I could at least understand. Burns is better than any FA this year, but he's not a Norris candidate.

Can't Babcock be pissed off without blaming Holland? I'm reading this that Babcock is angry because of all teams it had to be Sharks who got Burns.

I think Babs is pissed off because it seems all the good players are being traded to the West. Oh well, just one more year in the West and we can dominate the East In all seriousness, we would have had to send our only defensive ready prospect and a core player of the future and a high draft pick for Burns, who only has one year left on his contract. That's a lot to mortgage for a potential one and done player.

Does anyone think "pissed off" and "Burns" shouldn't be in a sentence together?

OK, so this is an article from a relatively unknown website, written by someone who clearly doesn't speak the English language very well. Further, he has something written that Babcock would probably never truly say in public. I'm calling BS.

The Lightning did pick Ritola up on waivers.

How would we have gotten Burns anyway? Sharks paid a fairly steep price, it may pay off if they can win a championship in the next year or two but Wings couldn't have matched that offer. Many are saying we should've thrown Franzen their way, but I don't think Franzen is equivalent to Setoguchi in terms of trade value. Setoguchi is younger, nearing his prime, still improving, and carrying a less burdensome contract in terms of years. I think Smith would've had to have been involved to get Burns, and I think Holland is wise to not trade Smith given our lack of good, young D prospects.

Nope. Player is a left wing. Dating Carrie Underwood's sister. Wears number 11 because he tends to read upside down and backwards and they didn't want him confused. Skates well.

hmm, maybe with the addition of this new "player" guy nashville can afford to move weber now?

Maybe Hudler for Wiz's rights and a 2nd?

Because this would soothe the people who are upset because we're not doing something NOW!!! Since NOW!!! seems to be a good time to move because the Wild, Leafs and Avs have done so tonight.

Better than mustard yellow :puke:

I knew that one was coming! but correct you are!

Yes and none of them are currently on the Wings. esteef

85% of the players in the league qualify for that job

Pavel Bure Doug Gilmour Joe Nieuwendyk Dave Andreychuk Belfour probably deserves to get in. Honestly, I don't know, other than Bure, take your pick. I don't see why Lindros should ever be included in the Hall of Fame, if ever there was a definition of flash in the pan it was him. Each year it becomes more clear to me how useless Hall of Fames are. I don't know if having annual inductions is a good thing, and I especially don't know if including so many players each year is a good thing. Sometimes it seems less like a Hall of Fame and more like some quota they have to fill. What would be truly impressive is being inducted into a Hall of Fame with less than 50 people in it.