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Geez, here we all thought Ericsson's contract was bad.

and you have to factor in the fact that it's a 35+ contract, so no cap relief for early retirement I wonder if it's a front loaded contract?

It's shameful that we've come to a point where Ericsson is making 3.5, Hudler is still a wing, and Draper is forced to retire. Sad times indeed. You will be missed Mr.33

Pound-for-pound, he's the world's most expensive manure spreader.

The owners all like the job he is doing. I say good for him. I just hope that there isn't a lockout when the CBA expires. We don't need another debacle like we had last time the CBA expired.

I would rather have Brad Richards for 6.6 mil

what do you think is good about the old logo other than it's the old logo

Like I said in the other thread. I like it. Vintage military-esk, honors the Royal Canadian Air Force, and looks like it is a 1950's style which plays into the whole Old Time hockey motif. I like it... I just want to see how it looks on their uniforms before I pass final judgement. Maybe they will go with a silver instead of White as the base color. It also looks like a target to shoot the puck at in hockey practice, the goaltenders SV% must go up now...

I think it's really cool. Totally unlike any other logo in the league. I'm surprised so many people seem to hate it. They didn't do some crazy design where you can't even tell what it is. They didn't use obnoxious coloring, and they didn't make it cartoony. What more do people want? It's a logo that can be taken seriously and that's all you need.

Because my opinion's different than yours? A hockey stick that forms a J with a clip-art airplane...how original.

Osgood's personal achievements are light. That's the knock against him in the HHOF and retiring his number. He has an impressive resume, but he was never really a star in this league. He was never really considered among the top of his position. I really don't get your line of reasoning. It's as if you're trying to prove Ozzy's number should be retired by naming people who shouldn't have theirs retired. And what does trading Messier or Fuhr have to do with anything?? You're also putting way too much weight on being a Wing for a long time. Yes that's a factor, because you want to retire a number of a player who is associated first and foremost with that team and considered synonymous with the organization (unlike the Avs retiring Bourque's number), but it requires a lot more than that. And to be clear, I like Ozzy. I've been a fan over the years and defended him here countless times. But I still don't think he warrants having his number retired.

Actually that doesn't invalidate that argument, you just disagree with it. Because Ozzy played for the Wings for a long time and racked up an impressive resume does not some how erase the significance that in their entire history, the Wings have officially retired six numbers. The point still holds that the Wings use an extremely high standard for retiring numbers.

What Oz has done for this franchise and the others he's played for has been remarkable. His numbers and accolades speak for themselves, but as much as it will piss off some...I don't see him making up in the rafter, HOF'er or not. You look at how many guys have played for the Winged wheel yet only 6 guys currently have their number retired. Detroit is beyond stingy with the players they decide to have their numbers retired (which I completely agree with) and I truly believe #5 will be the next rather than #30. It's no knock on Ozzie, IMHO guys like Fedorov don't deserve to be up there as well and guys like Z and Dats have a hell of a long way to go to even be in the discussion as well. I'm ultra picky about who gets up there because the more players they retire, the less of an honor it becomes....and in Detroit, that's what it deserves to be. That being said, I can't imagine he wouldn't make the Hall. He's most certainly worthy of it and deserve to be there.

don't you remember "the great ketchup boom" of 2000 when steve heinze wore #57 for the sabres? seriously though, i think he will wear it now mainly because of the charity pressure. he seems to have a good sense of humor as well so why not. that jersey will sell like hell if it happens. and is there any evidence that any of those petitions have ever worked?

I'd like to see it, personally. In truth, I don't see it as a gimmick- it's a fun play on words, like Tootoo wearing 22.

Yzerman might. didnt think Ritola would get claimed

Emmerton is quick and has good skill, so would fit well as a substitute when Franzen/Holmstrom/Bert miss games, or on one of the top three lines if he makes the top-twelve. Conner doesn't have the hands or hockey sense to play an offensive role, but he is a hard worker and a good grinder despite his size; and he's fast. Conner in the lineup for Abdelkader would make for a Mursak/Helm/Conner line, allowing the Wings to utilize Eaves' shot on a scoring line. Potential lineups with each player: Hudler/Zetterberg/Franzen Filppula/Datsyuk/Bertuzzi Cleary/Helm/Eaves Mursak/Emmerton/Holmstrom Hudler/Zetterberg/Cleary Franzen/Datsyuk/Holmstrom Bertuzzi/Filppula/Eaves Mursak/Helm/Conner Both of those are solid lineups, but I think I prefer to run with this regular lineup: Hudler/Zetterberg/Cleary Filppula/Datsyuk/Holmstrom Franzen/Abdelkader/Bertuzzi Mursak/Helm/Eaves It's certainly easy to plug Emmerton into Abdelkader's spot in that lineup as the third line center, also.

This was my exact thought, and that with Mursak that would be the fastest line in the NHL, not the best hands though, awesome energy.

If you put the standard as Yzerman and Lidstrom and applied it to other teams, you'd have to tear down a lot of numbers. If you put the standard as Osgood for goalies, you'd have to tear down some numbers. What is significant? You have to go back to 1973-74 season to find a player other than Yzerman, Lidstrom, or Sergei Fedorov who has played more than a decade in Detroit, started his career in Detroit, and was a key player and top player for as long as Osgood was. The player in 1973-74? Alex Delvecchio. Before that, it's 1971 and Gordie Howe. Norm Ullman in 1968 is deserving, and should have a banner - especially since his number is already retired anyway. But that probably won't happen. Osgood is definitely a Hall of Fame goalie. A 400-game winner with six 30-win seasons, two Cups, three finals appearances, one of the best winning percentages of all-time, and his only losing season was his second-to-last year, when he was fighting injuries the whole season on a team with the second-most man-games lost to injury that season. There is a major difference between the unofficial retirements of Fischer, Aurie, and Konstantinov's numbers. Fischer and Konstantinov only played here a few years. Konstantinov may have deserved retirement had he not had his accident. Fischer likely not, although he was very good and on the verge of becoming an elite defenseman. Aurie's number was retired by the club, but no banner was ever hung and it now is not considered retired; it is simply not available for use. Osgood's contributions to the team were greater than any of those three. At which point, naturally, comes the Shanahan argument. Why shouldn't Shanahan's number be retired? Shanahan wasn't as important as Yzerman or Fedorov, for one. He also didn't begin his career as a Red Wing, which does seem to have an effect on consideration. Finally, would you consider the third-best forward or the starting goaltender more important to a team, whether that team be good or bad? I vote goalie. Very few dominant teams in history, if any, have been so with a bunch of star forwards, one or two good defensemen, and a mediocre goalie. Edmonton is the closest example I can think of, and both Fuhr and Moog were among the better goalies in the league. The team was so stacked they could have kept Gretzky, and started trading some of the less important assets around him for cash, picks, and inferior players. Why not trade Messier and Fuhr instead of Gretzky? Retire #30.

WTF? I was under the impression they were going to use the old logo. This logo sucks compared to that.

did u like the sabres old serpant logo, the coyotes jerseys, the thrashers old jerseys, and the stars ovary jerseys as well?

May as well have used this Jets logo.

Looks like crap. Should stick with the old one.

this offseason just gets better and better.

Sad to say Holmstrom is still paying