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JIMMY HOWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The other team wants to win too, you know. It's not unheard of for a team with a 2-goal lead to play a little more cautiously at the end of the game, while the team that's down, especially if they're desperate for points (like Tampa) pushes hard regardless of man disadvantage. Awesome game, Detroit played very, very good hockey and there's a little too much whining about small stuff imo. This felt like a playoff game. 6 straight wins and the team is looking great pretty much top to bottom. I'm of course worried about the workload for Howard, but for now watching him is so much fun.

With a man advantage, i expect our team to control the play, not give up break a ways and get dominated during it. It's not whining, it's being disappointed in your team when you know they are capable of being better, regardless of score. Even if we were up by 8 goals, I'd expect them to control the play on a powerplay.

f*** you, Milbury. You're not worthy enough to lick Lidstrom's skates.

Hockey 101...a two goal lead is NEVER a safe lead.

Howard for Vezina.

Kindl, get that dangle sauce out of here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bertuzzi not only looks like Lurch, but he's just as stupid. His untimely penalties at his age are just inexcusable. Total bonehead.

The way he's playing this season, so far, 3 mil is a bargain for him. He's had stretches of a few games where he's played like this, especially in the playoffs, but I can't remember him ever having a 20+ game run like what he's on now. Even when not scoring points he's just doing good things out there. And most of all, around the net he looks 100% more confident and nothing like the undecisive pass-first shoot-never guy from previous years. Amazing to see.

You make a good point. It will be interesting to see if he continues to produce on the 3rd line when Morrow comes back. Thing i like about Nystrom is he goes all out every shift. His goals aren't a result of him splitting the D with fancy dekes, they're the result of hard work down low and driving to the net.

Actually she does. She has supported Dats and many other Red Wings at the Red Wings Training camp for 10+ years. He says hello when he sees her to note how supportive she and her family have been to him.

JIMMY HOWARD IS JESUS CHRIST.

I want a home plow... Of course then I would need a Mr Plow jacket

When in doubt, play Zetterberg Datsyuk and Lidstrom on the PK. That's the No ******* around unit.

Good play Kindl.

MM is a ******* moron. Wings dominate the period, and he has to talk about how he likes how Tampa played in that period?

Great first period for us. Great end-to-end play, great game so far.

Franzen got a point. We already won the game right ?

Engelland, Asham, and Macintyre. All of whom could likely walk into our forward gate and fight their way through the Wings bench and walk out the defense gate relativley unscathed. Bertuzzi can fight but hes not the 27 year old 250lb monster he used to be in Vancouver - plus hed had a few concussions ... I dont want to see Bert fighting tough guys. Abdelkader is a decent also. I agree with TS in saying that grabbing someone who can play the game and eat up minutes but is ready/willing/capable to throw down to defend teammates or spark the bench when needed.

I don't think the top NCAA FA is 26. I'm gonna go ahead and put my money on it being this guy: http://www.facebook.com/#!/dekeyser.daniel

I don't agree with the OP's assertion that the Wings are soft as hell, but I really don't understand this point, which has become a frequently stated opinion as of late. Are we only allowed to talk about potential changes to the team after they lose? I'm not saying that to be a smartass, I just really don't follow the thinking. When things are going well, how many times can we post "woohoo!" and "Go Wings!" In another thread, Crymson attacks another member because after a loss that person allegedly makes several posts criticizing the team, but after a win is nowhere to be found. So it's this no-win situation where if you only post after a loss you're a whining fan who does nothing but complain when the team loses, yet if you talk about changes to the team during a win streak, then you're still a spoiled fan because you can't enjoy the team winning. This isn't directed so much at you, but mainly I'm tired of the thinking here that we should do nothing but say positive things about the team (except of course for Hudler and Ericsson who are apparently exempt from that rule) as if that's the only way to support them and be a true fan. I do support the team. I also want to discuss hockey in a hockey forum. Sometimes that means talking about larger issues with the team, or even just wild ass speculation. The season is long, even if they're on a win streak, that doesn't mean there aren't things to talk about that will have implications down the road this season and in the playoffs. As I've said before, a lot of the criticism here is done with an eye towards the postseason and getting past San Jose, so it's not even about the current win streak. For those who don't like threads criticizing the team and think they are ill timed, it's very simple to avoid and not post in the thread. It'd be great to have more posts here that actually talk about the Wings and hockey in general, instead of all the ones that only judge how other people post here, including this one. *getting off my soapbox*

Haven't had a thread like this is a while. To be honest, our 4th line hasn't looked awful this year. That being said, come playoff time, we're gonna want a few guys that can wear the defense down on the forecheck and win puck battles down low. As far as defense goes, we need guys that will clear the crease, and be able to block shots. I'm sick of having huge pile-ups on top of Howard because of defense just collapses on him. Here is a list of guys I want us to pursue over the summer. Since money likely won't be a problem this offseason, I won't list their current salary. Forwards: Dan Carcillo- 26 years old. 7 points in 19 games coming into tonight. He's found his offensive touch with Chicago this year. Finishes his checks, gets underneath the opposition's skin. Gregory Campbell- 27 years old. 5 points in 22 games this season. Pretty good in the faceoff circle, he's quick, and gritty. Brandon Prust- 27 years old. 5 points in 21 games this season. This guy is a total gamer. Complete team guy. One of my favorite non-Wings. He can play a regular shift, hits everything in sight, and can score here and there. Arron Asham- 33 years old. 6 points in 24 games this year. Solid fighter and good forechecker. He's got playoff experience, but I'd personally like to see us grab a younger guy. Tim Jackman- 30 years old. 4 points in 22 games. One of the better 4th liners in the NHL. Solid hitter. George Parros- 31 years old. 1 point in 11 games this season. Been injured for a while, but he's got playoff experience and he's one of the more experienced scrappers in the league. I'd be surprised if he left Anaheim, though. Travis Moen- 29 years old. 10 points in 24 games. Solid grinder with veteran experience. He's got a nose for the net and is one of Montreal's more consistent offensive players. Sean Avery- 31 years old. 2 points in 10 games since getting re-called. Sure, he's a controversial character, but when he plays his game and keeps his mouth shut, he's awful effective. Wouldn't mind seeing Avery's return to Detroit. Brad Winchester- 30 years old. 4 points in 21 games. big, physical presence who can score on occasion. Wouldn't mind seeing him here to bolster the bottom 6. Tanner Glass- 28 years old. Has had a surprisingly good offensive start to the season. 10 points in 24 games on a line not known for its offensive prowess. This guy is the real deal, folks. Great team guy. Shawn Thornton- 34 years old. 3 points in 22 games. One of the best defensively responsible 4th liners in the game, and he's a good scrapper. Veteran with past playoff success. Zenon Konopka- 30 years old. 4 points in 18 games. Faceoff specialist. Another team guy who can skate pretty well. Matt Martin- 22 years old. RFA after this year. 4 points in 22 games. One of the best hitters in the league. Not afraid to drop the gloves. Jared Boll- 25 years old. RFA after this year. 1 point in 9 games. Can play on the penalty kill and blocks shots. Sticks up for his teammates. Ferocious on the forecheck. Kyle Chipchura- 25 years old. RFA after this year. 3 points in 13 games this season. Decent on the faceoffs from what I know. Would be a good 13th forward. Derek Dorsett- 24 years old. RFA after this year. 5 points in 23 games this season. One of my favorite non-Wings. He's got all the tools to be a legit power forward in this league. Pretty quick skater and a hard hitter. Scrappy combatant indeed, and he's not afraid of anyone. I've discussed this guy with a few different posters here, and he reminds me of McCarty. Kenny, if you're listening, make a trade for this guy. Defensemen: Tim Gleason- 28 years old. 6'0", 217. Michigan native. He's got some playoff experience, and he can put up a few points. In addition, he can throw his body around and block shots. Jim Vandermeer- 31 years old. 6'1", 210. Classic stay-at-home defenseman. Blocks shots. Pretty good scrapper, and kills penalties. Sheldon Brookbank- 31 years old. 6'1", 200. Fiesty guy who will definitely make sure nobody gets in the same zip code as Howard. Clayton Stoner- 26 years old. 6'3", 225. Clears the crease and drops the gloves. Shane O'Brien- 28 years old. 6'3", 230. Big, scrappy defenseman who has grown into a vocal leader on a relatively young Colorado team. Clears the crease, blocks shots, he's the real deal when it comes to stay at home defenseman. Ryan Wilson- 24 years old. 6'1", 207. RFA after this year. Another one who falls into my "Real deal" category. One of the hardest hitting defenders in the league. Additionally, he's put up 12 points this year. Theo Peckham- 6'2", 235. RFA after this year. 24 years old. Hard hitting guy who will keep the opposition honest. Mark Fistric- 6'2", 233. RFA after this year. 25 years old. One of the hardest hitting defensemen in the league, along with Ryan Wilson. One of my favorite defensemen. Barret Jackman is kind of a ******, and he's getting old, but I wouldn't be upset if we picked him up for cheap. Sorry for the obscenely long list. Bored tonight.

I will be streaming this game at http://freeredwings.tv.

I don't think anyone expects Brandon Dubinsky to fight on a regular basis. If he were a "weasel" and had no value to the team, he wouldn't have a roster spot. I think it is a bad time for Shelley to be calling people weasels, seeing as he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with the puck, let alone the net. Additionally, if he were expected to back up his big mouth in the upcoming meetings with New York with anything other than fighting, he won't be able to... because he IS a terrible hockey player. I don't like Shelley and I view him as a player that has no mind for the game and is only there to fight, which is all he is capable of doing on the ice. Unfortunately, Claude Giroux, Danny Briere and Scott Hartnell will have to score all of his points for him. Not like they aren't used to it, they score all of Zac Rinaldo's points for him too. No offense or anything, I like a lot of your posts... just trying to show the opposite perspective from which I view this situation.

No thanks, Drew Miller's pk value is much more important then Nystrom useless punching talent.