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13 years, 98 millions of dollars.

Come on people.he's been here like 20 games or so and we are throwing him under the bus already. I'm not saying he's going to be a stud,but definitely want to see him playing more to judge him.

We need him.

What a pain in the ass. Cant believe we traded a first for this s***

Are we sure that semin isn't from the twin cities and has always wanted to play with suter and parise?

Nash is worth whatever we need to give up.

Probably will go done as the most important signing off the offseason for the Wings. Now whether that's a good or bad thing....I'll let you determine that for yourself.

I'd take Semin for 4 years 20 million. Very fair for a player with 40 goal potential.

if we give him 4 years at a low cap hit we can at least trade him to like dallas or florida at some point. we didn't give up assets for him. cap space isn't going anywhere else at this point.

Yesss. I want semin with Pav so bad. I'd take him over parise

The purpose of the salary cap was to encourage parity. It succeeded in this for a few seasons. Now it is ruining the NHL. The cap is giant, and contracts have become absurdly inflated as a result. Teams almost always have the cap space to re-sign their UFAs, so few big-name players ever hit the open market; as a result, those who do go to the open market are given gigantic, ridiculous contracts. What's more, the low-budget teams--those teams to whom the cap was meant to give a legitimate shot at winning--must now dole out ridiculous contracts to remain above the salary floor. Hilarious. This all needs to be dealt with in the CBA. The cap needs to be fixed or reduced, and contract length needs to be limited. I think that eight years is a decent number, or perhaps less.

Again, maybe with the exception of White, it didn't sound to me like he's calling anyone out. That implies that they have tried and failed and are getting taken to task for it. It sounded more like a statement of what will be required of the Wings defense this coming year to make up for the loss of Lidstrom and Stuart. Not any slam on any of the defensemen. Honestly I don't think his season being a complete success has anything to do with points. Sure it'd be great if he put up 30, but that's not going to make or break his season. He needs to continue to be a force on the PK, play solid even strength minutes, and knock the hell out of guys anytime they're around the net or in the corners. If he does that, I consider his season a success.

Hmmm 50 seems like it could be a gamble on our part....

The trick will be to make sure the league is healthy without punishing smart owners like Illitch because of the owners and GM's out there who can't run a successful franchise. It should be an attempt to get a more level playing field, but the CBA will be too restrictive if it tries to save some of these idiots from themselves. Some franchises and markets should be allowed to fail rather than be propped up by the league.

get to know him on the ice. people complaining about this signing, who else could have any videos made like this whose played for the wings recently. Drake is the only one thats a maybe

Meh, this is his right. He's probably seeing how things are developing and assuming he's going to be playing alot and should get his money's worth! I'd be surprised if he received anything outrageous that Detroit wouldn't accept, given our deficiencies on the back end and the fact we just gave up a first for him.

In a word: no.

not a complete fatass like hitchcock or gallant... just sayin..

I wouldn't mind seeing: Cleary-Helm-Bertuzzi Abby-Sheahan-Tootoo I think that 4th line could be a terror cycling in the offensive zone & on the forecheck. Doubt it will happen this year though.

These moves made before the Suter/Parise fiasco was just shoring up goaltending and replacing people. I really like the small moves Holland made. Would you people honestly rather have Hudler for 4M for 4 more years or Sammy for 3M and 2 years... Sammy is the better player and makes us bigger and stronger. I liked Hudler and never understood all the hate but I'm glad to have upgraded for cheaper. Those contracts given to Suter and Parise were retarded and very short sighted. Holland is going to be making major moves and our D will at least look decent by the first game of the season.

I think we need to find at least one decent defensive stay at home defenseman. I'm not worried about puck moving defensman we are pretty equiped with those. Kronwall - Quincey - Smith - Kindl. I'm looking some more like Stuart (We sure are going to miss his presence).

I understand people are disappointed we didn't land either of these two players, but too many of you are absolutely overreacting. We didn't sign a couple of hockey players, it's not like the President was just shot. The amount of teeth-gnashing, wailing, hair-pulling, and manic frenzy is disproportionate to the event. Everyone just calm the hell down.

I really hope Wings fans don't boo these dudes.

Sour grapes much? Both are stand up guys who signed with a team far from contending. It's not like they took off to Pittsburgh or Chicago.

wish i was a wild fan. gonna be a fun year for them