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Why? Hockeytown is about the fans. Hockeytown moniker is about the fans. It pisses me off that they are removing it. Mr. I had it trademarked because it's about the city and the fans not about the team. The fans are not just in Detroit...

Yeah, it's a lazy argument. You're only in "cap hell" if you're a team like Chicago who wants to win one or two more with your current core before rebuilding. Cap constraints don't really matter for a team like Detroit because all the bad contracts will be off the books by the time we're ready to compete again. For a lot of lazy pundits, having bad contracts has become synonymous with "cap problems" when they aren't really the same thing. Sure we've got bad contracts, but they're not really stopping of from doing anything we should be doing (re-signing our FAs, adding quality depth, integrating entry level contracts), so who cares?

It'll be a good indication of how willing AA is to embrace an opportunity and capitalize on it. He's (potentially) being given a chance to anchor his own line, with decent enough linemates, and some real minutes this year. There's no reason he can't use this as an opportunity to bring his game up a notch if he's willing to be coached. If he doesn't, then it'll be pretty clear what kind of player we've got in AA.

Yep. Holland himself has said that's the plan. He showed this past season that he's committed to steering the ship in that direction, so I've got very little to complain about re: the rebuild effort. I know a lot of folks think the Wings should be tanking hard and I get where they're coming from. But, right now, I'm fully on-board with the Holland plan. Like you said, give us one or two more drafts like the one we just had and we should be in a good place. I'm not expecting the team to be a powerhouse within the next three years, but I'm also not sold on all the talk of how the Wings are in for a very long and very painful rebuild. Y'know what amuses me? Seeing every hockey pundit say the Wings are trapped in cap hell. Let's ignore the Zetterberg situation. Let's ignore all the money that's set to come off the books next summer and the summer after that. Let's ignore the fact that having a ton of cap space doesn't necessarily get you anywhere.

I like it. Give AA the reps and see what he's got. Maybe it'll force him to commit to playing a full game. If not, you can always move him back to the wing.

Feeling a bit salty this morning so .... Are we going through a bit of rough times sure but does that mean we still aren't Hockeytown home of Howe, Lindsay, Yzerman etc? We are an original 6 and don't have to be like Vegas or others with all the crazy crap pregame stuff. We know the game we appreciate the details of the game. Eventually the ship will turn around and that moniker will fit. If you want to remove the ads AND Hockeytown off center ice I could possibly agree and go with an "old school" look if you will rant continues All this lets get "modernized" and hip is all kinda crap in my eyes. Let's start being like all the franchises and do the same song after a goal. Let's pull down the all the championship banners Let's pull down the retired jerseys Let's get rid of Don't stop believing after a victory. Let's get rid of the Octopus visual's(they already have crushed the throwing) Let's change the colors from red to maybe teal as the marketing survey says so. My old crusty arse says sometimes leaving things in place hooks the future with the past ie the banners, jerseys, songs etc. rant over Feel free to flame away I am getting another cup of coffee.....

Seattle is lazy and it sucks.

I must say, if there's any player Blashill has done a good job of setting up tp be coached well. It's AA. Maybe some of us were critical that first year when he got limited minutes; but with the roles Blash has given AA; he's grooming him up. From time on PP, to PK, to Wing to Center. That's some good coaching. This coming year will be a big one for AA.

We're coming for you, Tronna. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

We're positioned to have a really big draft again next season and we're already pretty stacked prospect-wise. If I'm Holland I'm content to be mediocre this season, have a huge draft, and slowly replace older guys with up and comers via attrition. Next offseason we lose Frk, Vanek, Nyquist, Kronwall, Jensen, and Witko. Year after its Green, Ericsson, Daly. And that's without trades. All Kenny needs to do is draft well, stay the course, and be a lottery team this coming year and we're back in the thick of things. And finally, FINALLY, the glory days Red Wings will be behind us and we can get on to being a modern hockey team.

I mean, with Zetterberg done it's basically a throw away season as it is so I don't see a problem in trying anyone who factors into your future plans at center. I genuinely couldn't be happier about this. It gives a couple of kids some much needed minutes, and still ensures we'll essentially be a lottery team. One more year of solid drafting and I'll feel very good about our future (I actually do already).

Larkin scoring in the stars and stripes showdown. All-Star game-esque final score, but fun to watch some hockey finally anyway.

I'm glad the organization is finally accepting that they're no longer relevant.

Ah. So the world is "liberal" now? ( looks out the window) Could have fooled me. Dumbest names EVER!!!

Ya, but in this snowflake, liberal, butt hurt world, will the left stand for the logo honoring, er, I mean "racially offending" Native Americans? (Even though most Native Americans, like myself (Chippewa) aren't offended at all.) Sorry, do not want to start a debate about that, but you all know that it would 100% come into play while choosing a mascot/logo.

You^ vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

No more people in the seats.

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I see two paths forward: Either stick to your guns that Larkin's contract is not team-friendly (regardless of Zberg's contract). Or admit that you've changed your mind, i.e. Larkin's contract is pretty fair/normal (regardless of Zberg's contract) I won't burn you for either, I'd be happy just to move the discussion on with some rationalism. Let's stick to the facts moving forward. This made up business about Larkin taking less if X had occurred is completely unsubstantiated and isn't growing the discussion at all.

Hilarious. Jumbo Joe dove harder than the Red October there.

No it's not. Playing an extra year for the same money is not the same. If your Boss told you he was going to pay you $500 for 6 days of work instead of 5 and then told you that $500 is $500 whether its 5 days or 6, would you do it? I hope not. Which is exactly what he did, whether Z plays or not. No. His contract is "team friendly" because it's below market value, whether Z plays or not doesn't change this. Yes this. Again Z has nothing to do with making his contract team friendly. No it wouldn't. By your own admission, Larkin is already taking less than he could get. So why would he have to take an even smaller salary to be "team friendly"? And no, $30 million over 6 years is not the same salary as $30 million over 5. It's not an opinion. No it's not "obvious". 1. Opinions are not "obvious". 2. The timing of Larkin's contract had nothing to do with Z or any other player. If it did, then why not wait until right before training camp to sign it. Wouldn't that give them a better idea of Z's health, or any other player for that matter. To me, this is the more "obvious" logic. Why on earth would any player take less money to get rookies onto the roster? Don't players generally take less to get better players (older, more experienced, veterans) on the roster in order to make the team more competitive? Nope. You admitted that Holland signed Larkin for less than he could have gotten. That means Holland did a good job on that contract whether Z plays or not, it's still a smart move. Hello, Erik? Ken Holland here. We're interested in trading with Ottawa for your services this year and re-signing you to a long term contract. How does 9 million for 7 years sound? Oh, you think 10.5 is being generous? That is more than fair. You could probably get 12 in free agency, so 10.5 would be good value for sure. Here's the problem tho...If I don't get you to take 9, then I will have to trade or waive someone from my roster, so I'm afraid that 10.5 isn't a "team friendly" contract. I will have to pass. Thank you for your time tho. Nope. We all understand what ur saying. I am not so sure that you do.

lol "talk over" NINE minutes later.... No, it's literally not my opinion. Those really are two different salaries. And the "team-friendlyness" of player A's contract is not dependent on what player B's contract is. Zetterberg's move to LTIR does not make Ericsson or Abdelkader contracts anymore palatable, why would it Larkin's? You're tripping over your own feet

LGW.com YouTube channel plz.

Again, this assumes you think both Larkin and Holland are absolute morons. Keep pretending term does not matter. Those salaries are not the same no matter how you slice it. "They know Z is done which is why Larkin got the team-friendly deal, but $6.1 is not team-friendly" Whether or not Larkin's contract is team-friendly or not is not at all tied to Zetterberg's status on the team. Just like Abdelkader's contract did not become more team-friendly when we traded off tatar, or Ericsson's when we traded off Smith.