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  1. Pretty much. To me, it doesn't really matter who goes first and second. If Patrick and Hischier go first and second, the #3 pick probably costs something like Nyquist/Tatar + our 1st (assuming Nill would even be all that interested in Nyquist or Tatar in the first place), which I personally think is too much. If Patrick or Hischier is available at #3, Nill takes him. Or someone pays a king's ransom for the pick. So, no matter who's available at #3, we're not getting that pick. IMO.
  2. Here's how I'm looking at it... The Preds have Rinne, Subban, Josi, Ekholm, Ellis. It'd be their D and G (very thin at F) versus the Pens' F and G (very thin at D). Also, the Preds would be the fresher team. All in all, probably a pretty even matchup.
  3. I think Andersson or Kylington could do well enough in a sheltered role. Maybe, maybe not. Dennis Wideman, Michael Stone, and Deryk Engelland are all eligible for unrestricted free agency and I feel Green is better than each of them. Giordano, Hamilton, Brodie, Green could be one of the very best top fours in the league. Mind you, I'm not necessarily saying the Flames are the best hypothetical fit for Green. Eh, perhaps. He does seem to elevate his game in the AHL playoffs, but I'm not convinced he's going to become anything more than a bottom-six grinder at the NHL level.
  4. Preds lead 2-0 after 20 mins. I'm torn. On the one hand, f*** the Ducks. On the other hand, the Ducks might be the tougher opponent for the Pens -- and the most important thing in all this is that the Pens do not repeat. Ah screw it. Go Preds!
  5. "Erik Karlsson, Drew Doughty sign with Oilers; rest of league quits."
  6. Agreed. I only said Nyquist/Tatar + our 2nd because I imagine that's about the absolute limit of what Holland would consider. Personally, I don't feel the third overall pick is worth one of our better players and the ninth overall pick. Nill himself has said there isn't necessarily any clear separation between the top ten players in this draft class not named Nolan Patrick or Nico Hischier: "We know there are lots of choices at three. It's not like the top five or six are set in stone. Everyone has talked about the top two and then after that there is probably a group of ten players," Nill said. "I think it is going to come down to team's personal preference. Are you looking for a big, strong centerman? Are you looking for a scoring winger? Are you looking for a power forward? There are lots of different options there." But, yeah, I'm thinking it's all moot anyway, as Nill is probably fishing for a studly young top-four defenseman and we don't have one of those.
  7. If we're looking to trade up (probably not advisable), our old friend Jim Nill appears to be soft-shopping the #3 pick... Nill open to trading third overall pick in draft "I have talked to other teams already about possibly moving that pick, getting an established player back," Nill said during an interview on SiriusXM NHL Network. "It gives us lots of options." Granted, we hear this kind of talk every year and it rarely leads to anything. But, personally, I get the sense that Nill intends to load up and brute force the Stars back into the playoffs next season. We all know he isn't exactly gun-shy when it comes to impact trades. Could Tatar/Nyquist + 2nd get it done? (Probably not.) Would it be worth it? (Probably not.) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If we're looking to trade back and get an additional 1st, I think Green + Sheahan + [?] (Holmstrom/Bertuzzi?) could interest Calgary, Toronto, Edmonton, maybe others. The Flames could open next season with Mark Giordano, Dougie Hamilton, T.J. Brodie, Mike Green (born and raised in Calgary), Matt Bartkowski, Rasmus Andersson, Oliver Kylington. That's arguably a Cup-caliber D group, at least on paper. Having said all this...the landscape is going to change between now and the entry draft, so what's feasible now may not be feasible then and what's not feasible now may be feasible then.
  8. Yep. McJesus saves! Taylor Hallelujah! The Devils are a liar!
  9. I mean, sure. Taylor Hall hasn't carried a team into the playoffs. But, personally, I don't feel he should be judged based on that. It's arbitrary, it ignores the fact that the Oilers organization was Clown Shoes Central for the better part of the past decade, and it ignores the fact that the 2016-17 Devils were simply not a playoff team. (Honestly, I'm not convinced the Oilers have learned anything or become more competent in any really meaningful way. McDavid has singlehandedly saved that franchise, IMHO.)
  10. So...yeah. Mike Sullivan.
  11. "Say my name." "You're Pontus Aberg." "You're godda--wait, seriously? My name is Pontus Aberg?" "Yes. lol." "lol."
  12. Dude, c'mon.
  13. It's not clear to me how Orlov is "quite a lot better than Trouba in a number of meaningful ways." If you're basing this on the HERO charts, I'll again point out Orlov's low TOI% and I'll again point out that Orlov is a member of a very good Capitals team. These are important considerations. Neither Orlov nor Trouba fits my personal definition of moneypuck. It's more along the lines of Anthony DeAngelo, Jaccob Slavin -- relatively "unknown" players with good upside who probably wouldn't cost an arm and a leg to acquire and who have the potential to become high-value contributors (i.e. perform above their pay grade) for the next few years. Why are you so bent out of shape over people liking Trouba and not discussing Orlov? I mean, I'm not gonna judge you. I like ranting about Ken Holland and will look for any opportunity to do so. But I do feel like you've chosen a weird hill to die complain on. Orlov is not demonstrably superior to Trouba. Orlov is probably less well-known among hockey fans and is definitely less well-known among Red Wings fans. You're being obstinate. We need young, cost-controlled high-end defensemen with real top-pairing potential. Trouba fits the bill. Orlov also fits the bill, but he's two years older and four inches shorter and he shoots left and he's not from Michigan and there haven't been rumors that he's unhappy in Caps Land and there haven't been rumors that he'd love to be a Wing and he hasn't been linked to the Wings in any significant trade rumors. So, yeah, Wings fans are going to give Trouba more love. C'est la vie. Does it make more sense to trade for Trouba now (assuming the asking price is reasonable) or try to sign him several years from now (assuming he hits the open market)? I dunno. Adding Trouba now would, in theory, improve our blue line, which could, in theory, improve our team both in the here & now and moving forward, which could, in theory, accelerate our rebuild. Also, having him now gives us a shot at stretching his next contract (RFA) into his UFA years, which could be a win in the long run. Also, keep in mind: Mike Green is our best defenseman and next season might be his last as a Wing. "But some people in this community believe we should pay an astronomical price to acquire Trouba." And some people in this community believe we shouldn't. You might think you're the smartest guy in the room here, but that isn't necessarily the case.