Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted March 20, 2014 Franzen needs to play like he's playing every game not just when other key guys go down. Isn't he suppose to be a key player on this team? 1 AtomicPunk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings! 179 Report post Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) I'm all for mule speaking up. I like that. Coaching also tends to be overlooked. This goes a long way. Babs isn't bad but there's just something about these horrific 3rd periods that make you scratch your head and wonder why they can't play harder and smarter when the other teams decide to bring it. I mean the defense has been downright scary in every 3rd period and clutch saves don't seem to exist either. I just can't understand why they poop the bed in the final 20 minutes of every game. Edited March 20, 2014 by GoWings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted March 21, 2014 LOL.....every time I read your posts I get a laugh..... man, do you watch this team???? Have you seen this kid Gus? These kids??? Look at the score sheet over the last 5 games and tell me who is carrying the team. Watch a game and then repost To hell with the last 5 games dude....Nyquist has like 27 points in the last 21 games I think. He's been like Z Jr lately. We may make the playoffs on his back this year. That sounds like a future leader to me. And yes, his posts are often quite funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted March 23, 2014 I'm all for mule speaking up. I like that. Coaching also tends to be overlooked. This goes a long way. Babs isn't bad but there's just something about these horrific 3rd periods that make you scratch your head and wonder why they can't play harder and smarter when the other teams decide to bring it. I mean the defense has been downright scary in every 3rd period and clutch saves don't seem to exist either. I just can't understand why they poop the bed in the final 20 minutes of every game. I think it is easy to understand. The other team kicks it up another gear, and brings out the inexperience in our young players. It leads to them making mistakes. But they are getting better. That is what matters. It was different when we had the likes of Lidstrom and Zetterberg out there to close out games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted March 23, 2014 We haven't lost since Franzen made is statement. Coincidence? I don't think so. 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted March 23, 2014 We haven't lost since Franzen made is statement. Coincidence? I don't think so. Some will point out he hasn't scored in a few games. But when it comes down to it, that first line has been playing the opponents best shut down guys every night, which frees up Gus and the kid line to work their magic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krayzie_Bone 58 Report post Posted March 23, 2014 Franzen is worth every penny. He has always been streaky but can win a series by himself if he gets hot. I dont care about all the haters now Ill take him at that price any day. 1 marcaractac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted March 23, 2014 Franzen is worth every penny. He has always been streaky but can win a series by himself if he gets hot. I dont care about all the haters now Ill take him at that price any day. I agree. Even if he retires early and we take a small hit on the recapture penalty I won't be upset. He's been good for the majority of this year, and if he's hit a cold streak right now I won't be too upset if it means he'll turn hot again going into the playoffs, most fans of other teams will tell you he isn't someone you want to play against Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peabrain 5 Report post Posted March 23, 2014 Bertuzzi is the new Franzen. Franzen has been OK to good this year.I think bart has been looking good the last few games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted March 23, 2014 I think bart has been looking good the last few games. Bert has been very effective defensively playing with Glen and Miller. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted March 24, 2014 Bert has been very effective defensively playing with Glen and Miller. My dog is very effective playing defensively with Glen and Miller. I think Franzen and Quincy are very underrated here and Bert is overrated. Poor D skills and very minimal O skills. Essentially a SO specialist at this point in his career. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted March 24, 2014 still waiting for Franzen to come back to us, this Franzine guy who has been playing the last couple of weeks is hot garbage. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted March 24, 2014 still waiting for Franzen to come back to us, this Franzine guy who has been playing the last couple of weeks is hot garbage. Maybe he hasn't been scoring. But he's been far from hot garbage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted March 24, 2014 if one thing has been made clear with these injuries, it's that tatar/nyquist are not players in the mold of datsyuk/zetterberg - they aren't the guys that are going to carry your team. they're secondary players. Do you even watch the games? 2 Detroit \# 1 Fan and nawein reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted March 24, 2014 Do you even watch the games? I think he is being sarcastic. I hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted March 24, 2014 I would trade Franzen this off season for a top 4 d-man. The kids that are up and in the system will replace him no problem. I like players that try every night. He does not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted March 24, 2014 So how is going to call out Franzen for him being quiet of late? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted March 25, 2014 Do you even watch the games? Sarcasm or hard-core trolling... Fatty's known for it. I would trade Franzen this off season for a top 4 d-man. The kids that are up and in the system will replace him no problem. I like players that try every night. He does not. For a legit #1 or #2... I might bite. ...but what team can just give away that caliber of defenseman for as F. Michael put it so well. "The epitome of hot/cold." So how who is going to call out Franzen for him being quiet of late? Should be Kronwall or Alfie. Agreed. Quincey reminds me alot of Lilja...When they play/ed well they tend to go unnoticed, but when they messed up - the board here blows up. Agreed. Franzen is the epitome of hot/cold...I don't expect Holland of even thinking about moving Franzen, and that's a shame. Quincey's play more often than not gives me heart palpitations. Maybe I'm watching him too closely and I just expect him to make a blunder. Franzen is so frustrating for this reason. Love the cap-hit. Don't love the streakiness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted March 25, 2014 Sarcasm or hard-core trolling... Fatty's known for it. For a legit #1 or #2... I might bite. ...but what team can just give away that caliber of defenseman for as F. Michael put it so well. "The epitome of hot/cold." Should be Kronwall or Alfie. Quincey's play more often than not gives me heart palpitations. Maybe I'm watching him too closely and I just expect him to make a blunder. Franzen is so frustrating for this reason. Love the cap-hit. Don't love the streakiness. There is a double standard when it comes to Franzen though, as soon as he goes a couple games without registering a pt he gets called out for being streaky, but when compared to the rest of the team he's no streakier than anyone else yet I never see anyone else getting saddled with the label. This is the longest each of our top scorers have gone without a pt. Datsyuk - 4 games Zetterberg - 4 games Franzen - 5 games Nyquist - 5 games Alfredsson - 6 games Tatar - 7 games 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted March 25, 2014 There is a double standard when it comes to Franzen though, as soon as he goes a couple games without registering a pt he gets called out for being streaky, but when compared to the rest of the team he's no streakier than anyone else yet I never see anyone else getting saddled with the label. This is the longest each of our top scorers have gone without a pt. Datsyuk - 4 games Zetterberg - 4 games Franzen - 5 games Nyquist - 5 games Alfredsson - 6 games Tatar - 7 games Difference is each one besides Tatar have other things they bring to the table. Franzen doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlashyG 1,799 Report post Posted March 25, 2014 Difference is each one besides Tatar have other things they bring to the table. Franzen doesn't. Datsyuk and Zetterberg bring better defence than Franzen. What exactly do the other's bring that Franzen doesn't? He's as good or better defensively than the other 3 so it seems to me you're just illustrating my point. 2 number9 and kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted March 26, 2014 Stretch run to make the playoffs. Missing key players, but pushing on as a team. Kids are hauling the mail. What has Franzen been up to? 1 assist and -4 in the last 9 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeGraa55 Report post Posted March 26, 2014 Datsyuk and Zetterberg bring better defence than Franzen. What exactly do the other's bring that Franzen doesn't? He's as good or better defensively than the other 3 so it seems to me you're just illustrating my point. Defense, leadership, magic hands, etc etc. I and most importantly GIVE 100% EVERY GAME....Franzen not so much. Hell at least Tatars tries defensively, granted he fails at it. But he actually makes an effort. Stretch run to make the playoffs. Missing key players, but pushing on as a team. Kids are hauling the mail. What has Franzen been up to? 1 assist and -4 in the last 9 games. BUT BUT BUT HE HAD 9 goals in four games !!!! He is the bestest!!!! No surprise to me he isn't doing much when it matters most. Hell majority of the time he doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted March 26, 2014 i hate franzen immensely. it's not even funny how much i hate this guy. i hate him because it's way too obvious when he's trying and when he's not. hate, hate, hate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 324 Report post Posted March 26, 2014 i hate franzen immensely. it's not even funny how much i hate this guy. i hate him because it's way too obvious when he's trying and when he's not. hate, hate, hate. 1 number9 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites