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And if you subtract the 7 games he didn't score in those months then he scored in every game he played in for 3 whole months. Subtracting facts to make your argument is asinine. Fact is when guys went down he stepped up. He can't carry the team forever and you can't expect him to score everygame when the other team knows that he's the guy.

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I'm all for mule speaking up. I like that. Coaching also tends to be overlooked. This goes a long way. Babs isn't bad but there's just something about these horrific 3rd periods that make you scratch your head and wonder why they can't play harder and smarter when the other teams decide to bring it. I mean the defense has been downright scary in every 3rd period and clutch saves don't seem to exist either. I just can't understand why they poop the bed in the final 20 minutes of every game.

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LOL.....every time I read your posts I get a laugh..... man, do you watch this team???? Have you seen this kid Gus? These kids??? Look at the score sheet over the last 5 games and tell me who is carrying the team.

Watch a game and then repost

To hell with the last 5 games dude....Nyquist has like 27 points in the last 21 games I think. He's been like Z Jr lately. We may make the playoffs on his back this year. That sounds like a future leader to me. And yes, his posts are often quite funny.

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I'm all for mule speaking up. I like that. Coaching also tends to be overlooked. This goes a long way. Babs isn't bad but there's just something about these horrific 3rd periods that make you scratch your head and wonder why they can't play harder and smarter when the other teams decide to bring it. I mean the defense has been downright scary in every 3rd period and clutch saves don't seem to exist either. I just can't understand why they poop the bed in the final 20 minutes of every game.

I think it is easy to understand. The other team kicks it up another gear, and brings out the inexperience in our young players. It leads to them making mistakes. But they are getting better. That is what matters. It was different when we had the likes of Lidstrom and Zetterberg out there to close out games.

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We haven't lost since Franzen made is statement. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Some will point out he hasn't scored in a few games. But when it comes down to it, that first line has been playing the opponents best shut down guys every night, which frees up Gus and the kid line to work their magic.

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Franzen is worth every penny. He has always been streaky but can win a series by himself if he gets hot. I dont care about all the haters now Ill take him at that price any day.

I agree. Even if he retires early and we take a small hit on the recapture penalty I won't be upset. He's been good for the majority of this year, and if he's hit a cold streak right now I won't be too upset if it means he'll turn hot again going into the playoffs, most fans of other teams will tell you he isn't someone you want to play against

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Bert has been very effective defensively playing with Glen and Miller.

My dog is very effective playing defensively with Glen and Miller. I think Franzen and Quincy are very underrated here and Bert is overrated. Poor D skills and very minimal O skills. Essentially a SO specialist at this point in his career.

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if one thing has been made clear with these injuries, it's that tatar/nyquist are not players in the mold of datsyuk/zetterberg - they aren't the guys that are going to carry your team. they're secondary players.

Do you even watch the games?

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My dog is very effective playing defensively with Glen and Miller. I think Franzen and Quincy are very underrated here and Bert is overrated. Poor D skills and very minimal O skills. Essentially a SO specialist at this point in his career.

Agreed.

Quincey reminds me alot of Lilja...When they play/ed well they tend to go unnoticed, but when they messed up - the board here blows up.

I would trade Franzen this off season for a top 4 d-man. The kids that are up and in the system will replace him no problem. I like players that try every night. He does not.

Agreed.

Franzen is the epitome of hot/cold...I don't expect Holland of even thinking about moving Franzen, and that's a shame.

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Do you even watch the games?

Sarcasm or hard-core trolling... Fatty's known for it.

I would trade Franzen this off season for a top 4 d-man. The kids that are up and in the system will replace him no problem. I like players that try every night. He does not.

For a legit #1 or #2... I might bite. ...but what team can just give away that caliber of defenseman for as F. Michael put it so well. "The epitome of hot/cold."

So how who is going to call out Franzen for him being quiet of late?

Should be Kronwall or Alfie.

Agreed.

Quincey reminds me alot of Lilja...When they play/ed well they tend to go unnoticed, but when they messed up - the board here blows up.

Agreed.

Franzen is the epitome of hot/cold...I don't expect Holland of even thinking about moving Franzen, and that's a shame.

Quincey's play more often than not gives me heart palpitations. Maybe I'm watching him too closely and I just expect him to make a blunder.

Franzen is so frustrating for this reason. Love the cap-hit. Don't love the streakiness.

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Sarcasm or hard-core trolling... Fatty's known for it.

For a legit #1 or #2... I might bite. ...but what team can just give away that caliber of defenseman for as F. Michael put it so well. "The epitome of hot/cold."

Should be Kronwall or Alfie.

Quincey's play more often than not gives me heart palpitations. Maybe I'm watching him too closely and I just expect him to make a blunder.

Franzen is so frustrating for this reason. Love the cap-hit. Don't love the streakiness.

There is a double standard when it comes to Franzen though, as soon as he goes a couple games without registering a pt he gets called out for being streaky, but when compared to the rest of the team he's no streakier than anyone else yet I never see anyone else getting saddled with the label.

This is the longest each of our top scorers have gone without a pt.

Datsyuk - 4 games

Zetterberg - 4 games

Franzen - 5 games

Nyquist - 5 games

Alfredsson - 6 games

Tatar - 7 games

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There is a double standard when it comes to Franzen though, as soon as he goes a couple games without registering a pt he gets called out for being streaky, but when compared to the rest of the team he's no streakier than anyone else yet I never see anyone else getting saddled with the label.

This is the longest each of our top scorers have gone without a pt.

Datsyuk - 4 games

Zetterberg - 4 games

Franzen - 5 games

Nyquist - 5 games

Alfredsson - 6 games

Tatar - 7 games

Difference is each one besides Tatar have other things they bring to the table. Franzen doesn't.

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Difference is each one besides Tatar have other things they bring to the table. Franzen doesn't.

Datsyuk and Zetterberg bring better defence than Franzen. What exactly do the other's bring that Franzen doesn't?

He's as good or better defensively than the other 3 so it seems to me you're just illustrating my point.

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Datsyuk and Zetterberg bring better defence than Franzen. What exactly do the other's bring that Franzen doesn't?

He's as good or better defensively than the other 3 so it seems to me you're just illustrating my point.

Defense, leadership, magic hands, etc etc. I and most importantly GIVE 100% EVERY GAME....Franzen not so much. Hell at least Tatars tries defensively, granted he fails at it. But he actually makes an effort.

Stretch run to make the playoffs. Missing key players, but pushing on as a team. Kids are hauling the mail.

What has Franzen been up to? 1 assist and -4 in the last 9 games.

BUT BUT BUT HE HAD 9 goals in four games !!!! He is the bestest!!!!

No surprise to me he isn't doing much when it matters most. Hell majority of the time he doesn't.

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