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The Franzen Hate.

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and over and over and over... and will be continued to be said over and over while Hoss is being his consistent productive self and Franzen continues to blow big balls and waste a roster spot. Hossa is fast, strong, shoots, scores, plays defense and has the ability to carry the team from time to time, shows up every game.... all for roughly the same salary as Franzen.

I think he is a superstar, look at his stats... maybe not Crosby level but I would take Hossa everyday over Ovechkin!

It will keep being repeated over and over and over. Just like Franzen not showing up when the team needs him Over and over and over and over again!

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I doubt he will be a hall of famer, but you never know. I consider superstars to be franchise players, guys like Stamkos, Malkin, The Sedins in 2012, and Crosby (as much as i hate him)

Hossa could be considered elite, but superstar he is not

I think if he played his prime years in some place other than Ottawa or Atlanta he would be a certain Hall of Famer. Going to get 500 goals...certain Hall of Famer the more I think about it.

I dont think Hossa in his prime was much lower than any of those players you mentioned. And no matter what, always has been a much better player than Franzen

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There are soooo many players I would Peter to him for both cap hit and play

You talking about hossa? If so name them.

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The tipping point for me: G5, 19:25 of the Second Period. He takes a holding penalty against Johnny Boychuk, then pleads his case for all the free world to see, claiming that he either didn't do it or it was a weak call.

In the end, it was a weak play on his part.

If that's all you've got in a series-elimination game, it really is time to look back and examine all of the press you got earlier this season, calling out teammates and questioning your own ability and ask yourself this simple question: "What the hell am I doing?"

For me, his bloated contract can't be over fast enough.

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Okay.

So the wings buy out franzen, we lose 25+ goals, now we need to replace him.. alfredsson retires, 15+ more.

Then Free agency rolls around and we cant get a top 6 forward...granted having z and d (hopefully)healthy will pick up some of that, but not enough to be better than we were this past season.

Now we have to rely on the kids to pick up the slack are they capable of doing it?

But do you want to put all that extra weight on a kids back before they're even in their prime?

And god forbid z or d get hurt, then what?

Trade prospect everyone nearly has written off for help up front and listen to the backlash of fans screaming about giving away "Zetterberg 2.0" for a proven 2way player, or let our kids fight through on their own with brendan smith on the second line?.

Then what happens when they start to lose, do you really want them to be booed on home ice when they struggle?

Maybe we trade Franzen.

Maybe we even get someone who's scored 30/30 once or twice.

Even the most consistent players have slumps, his will come right as franzen wins two games basically by himself and everyones gonna start in with the was it worth it talk..

Imagine if Franzen got Toronto into the last playoff spot we were chasing with a handful of demoralized kids, and our hobbled hurting vets asking why they pus themselves so hard for a team with no real plans to succed.

So.

I'll.keep him.

He's no Marian hossa, but Holland made the choice ya know.

It's not like he tried to sign them both, or anything.

Edited by jimmyemeryhunter

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Spector had a little thing up a couple of days ago about rumors Franzen could be traded. First thought: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any GM that trades for Franzen should be fired on the spot! That then lead me to Snow and the NYI. They need some D and more O. how about franzen and Kindl for martin! perfect!

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This thread really needs to end...Poor Johan is probably reading these threads, all the hate, all the bashing, and is wiping away his salty tears with $100 dollar bills.

Yes this post was meant to be sarcastic since I too have grown weary of him.


This is no coincidence, he's that bad.

CapGeek @capgeek

In the span of 24 hours, Johan Franzen has moved to No. 2 on our most popular buyouts list behind David Clarkson.

Toronto will pull the trigger...Detroit however..........

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Is Clarkson eligible for the compliance buyout? I didn't think he was.

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Clarkson can only be bought out with an ordinary buyout-which is why it will not happen. he signed last summer with Weiss.

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Hossa got 30/30/60 this year with +28. That tops every Red Wings player. Arguing superstar vs. Elite is semantics. Arguing Franzen vs. Hossa, though, is laughable. Hossa is the dominant player by a wide margin.

Hossa followed the money to Chicago after being quoted as saying he'd be willing to sign for less to stay in Detroit.

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How different would this year have been if Franzen's money went to Hossa and Weiss' money went to Fil?

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I blame a lot of Francine's lackluster play on Babcock. Younger guys have to EARN their ice. Not lazyass, WHY? Dress him and let him ride the bench til he gets the message, or make him a healthy scratch.

If that don't work put the Effer on waivers and let him ride the bus to games for a while.

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Yeah....because he'll definetly clear waivers...

And if he doesn't? The Wings are then off the hook for all the fun cap problems he'll cause when he retires.

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How different would this year have been if Franzen's money went to Hossa and Weiss' money went to Fil?

I don't know about Franzen/Hossa, but I'll tell you this: there was absolutely NO point in tradng Filppula for Weiss. Filppula put up comparable numbers with less ice time and already spent time on our power play and building relationships with the guys on the team. I was indifferent to moving on from Filppula, but when they signed Weiss I was NOT a happy fan.

What a waste. Sure, he may turn out to play a significant role as a #2 C... but didn't we already have that in Filppula? Weiss was not leaps and bounds better, he had significant injury questions (shoulder, knee, groin, and wrist), and put up #2 numbers as a #1 guy. Hmm.... could you imagine a 25/30 center on our team this year? That might have been the catalyst to get to the #7 or #6 seed. Shame.

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Yeah....because he'll definetly clear waivers...

Beats the cost of a buyout as many are suggesting.

And if he doesn't? The Wings are then off the hook for all the fun cap problems he'll cause when he retires.

YEP!

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