GDT 1/17 GDT : Flyers (2) at Red Wings (1) Shoot Out

[wings_fanatic 677]

Yeah I was gonna say that for whatever reasons the wings were faster than usual tonight.

I think the couple days off they had helped.

Not going to help them if they can't give mrazek any support. Mrazek barely let's in more than one goal lately but we can't seem to manage to score much more than 2 a game. Something has to change. Blashill has done an awful job addressing the PP. Green should be on the top unit hands down.

[cdjen 21]

Well, he's leading the team in goals,so he obviously hits a lot too.

If you think 14 goals is a lot then yes. However, with time Larkin will learn to score rather than miss the net most of the time.

I do think Larkin will be our captain as Yzerman did become and I have great hope that he and our younger players will win us the cup and more than once.

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Edited January 18, 2016 by cdjen

[chaps80 1,591]

Didn't see the game, but it sounds like the Wings did alright. They've got the goaltending, they just need the goals. Especially facing Neuvirth and only one goal in the game, the 1 in the shootout. Gotta find a way. The PP is a good place to start.

Least they got a point.

[DRW Dominance 255]

we lost thanks to penalties in OT. 4 on 4 sucks ass. no different than 5 on 5.

i felt we would have won in OT going 3 on 3.

[Bill Berzeench 310]

We hit 4 goalposts this game. That was the problem. Truly a game of inches.

[LeftWinger 4,963]

Not going to help them if they can't give mrazek any support. Mrazek barely let's in more than one goal lately but we can't seem to manage to score much more than 2 a game. Something has to change. Blashill has done an awful job addressing the PP. Green should be on the top unit hands down.

I'm just saying, you acquire Byfuglien, he sews up the toughness on the top end of the D PLUS you can plant him in front of the net on the PP unit, then put Green back there with his shot and the PP has got to get better! (unless of course Byf gets hit in the PP, then ouch! )

[Bannedforlife 403]

I'm just saying, you acquire Byfuglien, he sews up the toughness on the top end of the D PLUS you can plant him in front of the net on the PP unit, then put Green back there with his shot and the PP has got to get better! (unless of course Byf gets hit in the PP, then ouch! )

Byfuglien cannot be acquired for what you are willing to give up. You should prepare yourself for that reality.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

Byfuglien cannot be acquired for what you are willing to give up. You should prepare yourself for that reality.

100% agreed. People don't realize that other teams don't want our garbage. Some of the trade proposals are really funny.

[vladdy16 2,154]

Let's keep this to last night's game, not about perceived holes in defense or players you wish to acquire. There are appropriate threads for those discussions.

[Bill Berzeench 310]

Let's keep this to last night's game, not about perceived holes in defense or players you wish to acquire. There are appropriate threads for those discussions.

Do you think our shootout guys are our top 3? Richards over Larkin baffles me.

[Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453]

Do you think our shootout guys are our top 3? Richards over Larkin baffles me.

While I would also like to see Larkin get shootout attempts, going with Richards makes sense. His percentage is pretty good and he scored in his last attempt for us. Larkin is unproven, who knows if he's even good at shootouts.

[puckloo39 5,686]

http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/flyers-white-not-suspended-for-hit-on-red-wings-jurco?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

No suspension or anything else for White - what an ass. Too bad the Wings have no one to make him pay on the ice. It was pretty much a given the NHL would not take any further action.

Jurco didn't die or end up in traction so....Just a Wing.

[Euro_Twins 4,477]

http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/flyers-white-not-suspended-for-hit-on-red-wings-jurco?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

No suspension or anything else for White - what an ass. Too bad the Wings have no one to make him pay on the ice. It was pretty much a given the NHL would not take any further action.

Jurco didn't die or end up in traction so....Just a Wing.

League standards, no injury = no suspension

[ami 273]

League standards, no injury = no suspension

It must be some different standard. Kucherov didn't die or was injured, but Kronwall got suspended for game 7.

[kickazz 5,459]

It must be some different standard. Kucherov didn't die or was injured, but Kronwall got suspended for game 7.

both feet off the ground to deliver a hit is usually suspension regardless of injury. when your feet are on the ground and you make a hit - that's when the grey area begins.

Edited January 19, 2016 by kickazz

[Echolalia 2,961]

He was booted at the beginning of the game he essentially had a 1 game suspension anyway. That may also be playing a role.

[ami 273]

both feet off the ground to deliver a hit is usually suspension regardless of injury. when your feet are on the ground and you make a hit - that's when the grey area begins.

that's not the point I tried to emphasize. I am just comparing these two factual cases.

The more I compare, the less I believe the league priority to get rid of head shots - regardless of whether offender's feet are on the ground or he's flying.

bottom line. if Kronwall hit worth one game suspension, this one isn't very different.

He was booted at the beginning of the game he essentially had a 1 game suspension anyway. That may also be playing a role.

You are missing two points:

1. Being booted out from game doesn't cost him a penny, and much more important

2. No suspension - no record of being suspended, which could/would play a role in how he is taking a run at his next head shot.

Edited January 19, 2016 by ami

[Bill Berzeench 310]

that's not the point I tried to emphasize. I am just comparing these two factual cases.

The more I compare, the less I believe the league priority to get rid of head shots - regardless of whether offender's feet are on the ground or he's flying.

bottom line. if Kronwall hit worth one game suspension, this one isn't very different.

You are missing two points:

1. Being booted out from game doesn't cost him a penny, and much more important

2. No suspension - no record of being suspended, which could/would play a role in how he is taking a run at his next head shot.

Too early to head hunt for this guy. He's not Matt Cooke. His game penalty was just.

[ami 273]

Too early to head hunt for this guy. He's not Matt Cooke. His game penalty was just.

In Flyers environment I suppose it won't long

[Echolalia 2,961]

that's not the point I tried to emphasize. I am just comparing these two factual cases.

The more I compare, the less I believe the league priority to get rid of head shots - regardless of whether offender's feet are on the ground or he's flying.

bottom line. if Kronwall hit worth one game suspension, this one isn't very different.

You are missing two points:

1. Being booted out from game doesn't cost him a penny, and much more important

2. No suspension - no record of being suspended, which could/would play a role in how he is taking a run at his next head shot.

lol I'm not missing anything. I wasn't the one that decided not to suspend him. But you're right on both those points.

[kickazz 5,459]

that's not the point I tried to emphasize. I am just comparing these two factual cases.

The more I compare, the less I believe the league priority to get rid of head shots - regardless of whether offender's feet are on the ground or he's flying.

bottom line. if Kronwall hit worth one game suspension, this one isn't very different.

Not really. Kronwall broke like 3 rules in his hit.

1. Elbow up.

2. principle point of contact was head

3. Left feet off ice

White hit on Jurco

1. Principle point of contact was head. Didn't leave feet, elbow not up.

So the way I look at it - Kronners hit was worse (in terms of rules). He got a one game suspension, White got booted from the game. The hits to me aren't the same and so the punishments shouldn't be the same. And from what I remember, when he got suspended - him leaving his feet was the primary reason for his suspension.

Found the video - they explain the reasoning well and compared it to Kronwall's previous hits and why he wasn't suspended before. To me that's much worse than White's hit.

Edited January 19, 2016 by kickazz

[ami 273]

ok . let's compare cases with only one rule violation: principle point of contact it is.

why one renders 3 game and another not even a fine ?

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=658671&catid=35

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/flyers-white-ejected-for-hit-to-head-of-red-wings-jurco/

they say Burrows was fined 4 times, all due to his behavior not head shots/boarding/etc.

[ami 273]

Too early to head hunt for this guy. He's not Matt Cooke. His game penalty was just.

Apparently he is on the way to develop another Cooke and NHL is helping him out.

In Flyers environment I suppose it won't long

Just did a little research on our friend Ryan White: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=666339

******* 5 games for a brutal head shot!! and he got clean with very similar although not so brutal hit here!!

Do you still think it is too early to hunt him down?

Edited January 19, 2016 by ami

[kickazz 5,459]

ok . let's compare cases with only one rule violation: principle point of contact it is.

why one renders 3 game and another not even a fine ?

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=658671&catid=35

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/flyers-white-ejected-for-hit-to-head-of-red-wings-jurco/

they say Burrows was fined 4 times, all due to his behavior not head shots/boarding/etc.

Probably the history.

I agree with you that NHL is pretty inconsistent. They need to work on it. But yeah, kronners hit personally I felt the one game (as inopportune as it was) was somewhat justified. The White hit on Jurco imo shud have gotten some sort of fine at the very least maybe - that way it would add to his "history". He's basically in the clear and I expect he'll make another hit. heh.

Edited January 19, 2016 by kickazz

[TheXym 2,606]

I agree, kickazz. Not doing more paves the way for future shenanigans without proper repercussions.