Scott R Lucidi 444 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: Would you take 1 year of Subban if we can have him cheap? We can more than afford the cap hit, and he's only getting paid $2 million in real dollars this year. Leddy - Hronek Dekeyser - Subban Cholowski - Seider Lindstrom Better yet, maybe you convince NJD to retain 50%. Now he's only $4.5. Then we retain half at the deadline and trade him and now he's only $2.25 for the receiving team. Not sure if you can retain twice on one contract. To the Wings: Suban, pick 4, pick 67 To the Devils: pick 6 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 4 hours ago, BarkBurgerman said: Would you take 1 year of Subban if we can have him cheap? We can more than afford the cap hit, and he's only getting paid $2 million in real dollars this year. Leddy - Hronek Dekeyser - Subban Cholowski - Seider Lindstrom Better yet, maybe you convince NJD to retain 50%. Now he's only $4.5. Then we retain half at the deadline and trade him and now he's only $2.25 for the receiving team. Not sure if you can retain twice on one contract. Needs more diversity...Make it happen Stevie Y ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 Bruce Garrioch reporting that the Kings are shopping the #8 pick. Time to trade Bert? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 6 hours ago, BarkBurgerman said: Would you take 1 year of Subban if we can have him cheap? We can more than afford the cap hit, and he's only getting paid $2 million in real dollars this year. Leddy - Hronek Dekeyser - Subban Cholowski - Seider Lindstrom Better yet, maybe you convince NJD to retain 50%. Now he's only $4.5. Then we retain half at the deadline and trade him and now he's only $2.25 for the receiving team. Not sure if you can retain twice on one contract. I would do it if it's a salary dump and there's an asset coming back. 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, F.Michael said: Needs more diversity...Make it happen Stevie Y ! Subban with the "C"? Really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 7 hours ago, BarkBurgerman said: Would you take 1 year of Subban if we can have him cheap? We can more than afford the cap hit, and he's only getting paid $2 million in real dollars this year. Leddy - Hronek Dekeyser - Subban Cholowski - Seider Lindstrom Better yet, maybe you convince NJD to retain 50%. Now he's only $4.5. Then we retain half at the deadline and trade him and now he's only $2.25 for the receiving team. Not sure if you can retain twice on one contract. Not allowed per the CBA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,749 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Not allowed per the CBA. The David Savard to Tampa trade? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Akakabuto said: The David Savard to Tampa trade? I think only Detroit retained salary in that trade, not Columbus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,749 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, kipwinger said: I think only Detroit retained salary in that trade, not Columbus. No, both did. Tampa got him at 75% retained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted July 20, 2021 Just now, Akakabuto said: No, both did. Tampa got him at 75% retained. Huh, well I stand corrected. Guess I was wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, BarkBurgerman said: Would you take 1 year of Subban if we can have him cheap? We can more than afford the cap hit, and he's only getting paid $2 million in real dollars this year. Leddy - Hronek Dekeyser - Subban Cholowski - Seider Lindstrom Better yet, maybe you convince NJD to retain 50%. Now he's only $4.5. Then we retain half at the deadline and trade him and now he's only $2.25 for the receiving team. Not sure if you can retain twice on one contract. I'd take him if they're incentivising us, absolutely. Pass on eichel for that price. Maybe for bert, and two firsts. But they probly get better elsewhere Edited July 21, 2021 by amato Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott R Lucidi 444 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 Eichel is trash. no thx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 Kraken closing in on deals with Larsson and Oleksiak. Maybe we'll only lose Namestnikov! 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: We already have a Phillip Danault... His name is Joe Veleno... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, marcaractac said: Kraken closing in on deals with Larsson and Oleksiak. Maybe we'll only lose Namestnikov! Personally rather lose a tweener D man like Cholowski (edit) or Stecher than lose Namestnikov. But not by much I guess Edited July 21, 2021 by The 91 of Ryans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: We already have a Phillip Danault... His name is Joe Veleno... 22 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: Hearing this rumor only exists for the punchline........... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: I find it funny that folks are high as balls on Stecher, but totally cool with chucking Namestnikov. They're the same age, same size, make the same money, same contract length, both steady players that don't do any one thing particularly well... I guess D is slightly more important? But then again we have two prominent RHD now and like no decent centers.... Yeah but Phil ate pizza on camera one time I don't care if we lose Stecher or Namestnikov. I just wanna see if anything comes of Cholowski. 1 amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: Edited July 21, 2021 by F.Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Personally rather lose a tweener D man like Cholowski (edit) or Stecher than lose Namestnikov. But not by much I guess For me it's a toss up between Namestnikov or Stecher. I wouldn't put Cholowski in that same group though. He, unlike the other two, still has potential, regardless how likely you think it is he hits that potential... 16 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: I find it funny that folks are high as balls on Stecher, but totally cool with chucking Namestnikov. 4 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: I'll never understand the bend over backwards affection for Troy Stecher. Who is high as balls / bending over backwards for Stecher? He's a solid depth defenseman, but hardly worth getting upset over if we lose in the expansion draft. Very replaceable. I'd prefer to lose Namestnikov, but I wouldn't be too upset if we lose Stecher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: Not really directed at you. I'll never understand the bend over backwards affection for Troy Stecher. You know where I stand ... 15 minutes ago, marcaractac said: I don't care if we lose Stecher or Namestnikov. I just wanna see if anything comes of Cholowski. He'll become another Kindl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: LOL you're worse than mackel, when someone mentions Zadina... Veleno really strikes a nerve with you... If I said something similar about your boy Ras... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, BarkBurgerman said: Not really directed at you. I'll never understand the bend over backwards affection for Troy Stecher. Oh I know. 3rd pairing dman Stecher who basically lost his job to Lindstrom. 6 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Who is high as balls / bending over backwards for Stecher? He's a solid depth defenseman, but hardly worth getting upset over if we lose in the expansion draft. Very replaceable. I'd prefer to lose Namestnikov, but I wouldn't be too upset if we lose Stecher. You haven't been in Discord. It was the one time things almost got heated there. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: LOL you're worse than mackel, when someone mentions Zadina... Veleno really strikes a nerve with you... If I said something similar about your boy Ras... Zadina's on track so Mackel's just trolling. My intent with Veleno is never to troll. I really like him. But comparing Veleno and his so-far 5 game NHL career to a player that had one of the best individual shutdown center runs in recent playoff history? How can I not make fun of this? How? Tell me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Zadina's on track so Mackel's just trolling. My intent with Veleno is never to troll. I really like him. But comparing Veleno and his so-far 5 game NHL career to a player that had one of the best individual shutdown center runs in recent playoff history? How can I not make fun of this? How? Tell me? Nobody is accusing Veleno of being at that level in the NHL yet. But based on his play in other leagues, it is what is he is expected to grow into. Hence why locking up Denault would not be all that great. Short term would be fine, sure. But we are starving for an offensive-minded center right now. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, marcaractac said: Nobody is accusing Veleno of being at that level in the NHL yet. But based on his play in other leagues, it is what is he is expected to grow into. Hence why locking up Denault would not be all that great. Short term would be fine, sure. But we are starving for an offensive-minded center right now. Well I don't think Yzerman signs Danault. Doesn't make sense. However, if he did, I suspect it would be to free up Larkin to produce more offence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
