Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) This is fantasy hockey stuff but I'ma post it anyway because it says nice things about Veleno and McIsaac: Projecting Prospect Point Potential Using PNHLe: Veleno, Fox, Batherson, & Pilut [DobberProspects] Quote Joe Veleno – Detroit Red Wings – PNHLe (74) Of all the drafted forwards currently playing outside of the NHL, Veleno holds the highest PNHLe by a fairly wide margin. I think most would agree that his fall down the first round of the NHL draft board last summer was a surprise, especially as a player who was originally granted ‘exceptional status’ in the QMJHL. Nonetheless, it means that because he was drafted 30th overall, fantasy GMs may not value him as highly as they should. The fact that he’s produced 98 points in only 51 games suggests that door is quickly closing and a fantasy team in rebuild mode should take the risk in acquiring him prior to your league’s trade deadline before his stock continues to rise. Closest Comparables – Travis Konecny (Sarnia Sting: 2015-16), Nikolaj Ehlers (Halifax Mooseheads: 2014-15), Alex Galchenyuk (Sarnia Sting: 2012-13) Quote Jared McIsaac – Detroit Red Wings – PNHLe (69) Many prognosticators predicted that McIsaac would end up getting picked in the latter part of the first round in 2018. However, like many of Detroit’s other draft picks, McIsaac seemed to land in the Red Wings’ lap and they may laugh all the way to the bank with the 36th overall pick. As a former second overall pick in the QMJHL 2016 draft, his offensive upside seemed to stagnate in Halifax and he was seen as more of a shut-down defenseman until he broke out this season and has scored 55 points in only 43 games. He also earned a spot on a very deep Canadian World Junior roster and showed well in the tournament before an early departure. It’s unlikely he’ll end up matching the upside of some of his comparables, but the fact that he’s taken a huge step forward and is in a Red Wings organization that is desperately looking for the next defender to take over the top power play quarterback position bodes well for his chances. Closest Comparables: Sam Girard (Shawinigan Cataractes: 2016-17), John Carlson (London Knights: 2008-09), Ryan Ellis (Windsor Spitfires: 2009-10) Edited March 2, 2019 by Dabura 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 2, 2019 Even these comparables translate to NHL careers. Thats 2 good picks right there. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted March 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dabura said: This is fantasy hockey stuff but I'ma post it anyway because it says nice things about Veleno and McIsaac: Projecting Prospect Point Potential Using PNHLe: Veleno, Fox, Batherson, & Pilut [DobberProspects] Veleno needs to score 50 in juniors otherwise no. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted March 3, 2019 I know you have to take QMJHL numbers with a grain of salt, but, given a hypothetical choice between having McIsaac being 2nd in Dmen scoring and NOT being 2nd in Dmen scoring, I'd take the former every day. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted March 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Dabura said: I know you have to take QMJHL numbers with a grain of salt, but, given a hypothetical choice between having McIsaac being 2nd in Dmen scoring and NOT being 2nd in Dmen scoring, I'd take the former every day. How is Berggren doing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: How is Berggren doing? First year in Division 1 he has 3 pts in 16 games. Not a lot to take away. It's impressive that he's in division 1 at 18 years old but he's not a go to guy or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453 Report post Posted March 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: First year in Division 1 he has 3 pts in 16 games. Not a lot to take away. It's impressive that he's in division 1 at 18 years old but he's not a go to guy or anything. Also, if I remember right, he suffered a back injury and has been out months. 3 Dabura, ChristopherReevesLegs and nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 4, 2019 33 minutes ago, Wheelchairsuperhero said: Also, if I remember right, he suffered a back injury and has been out months. I didn't know this at all, makes more sense thanx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted March 4, 2019 Yup, Berggren's been out for pretty much the whole season with a back injury. Big bummer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dabura said: Yup, Berggren's been out for pretty much the whole season with a back injury. Big bummer. Wheelchair beat you be like a whole 40 min. Ur not getting likes for this. 2 1 Wheelchairsuperhero, Akakabuto and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted March 6, 2019 another kivenmaki goal 1 1 krsmith17 and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted March 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: another kivenmaki goal daaaang son Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Dabura said: daaaang son His pace during this current call up would make him the most productive player per game in the entire Liiga, behind only former NHLer Jussi Jokinen. And he's doing this on the worst team in the Liiga. Edited March 6, 2019 by ChristopherReevesLegs 2 krsmith17 and Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted March 6, 2019 Here's a stats-heavy piece on Hronek: Filip Hronek's Ice Time Continues to Rise and He's Earned It [WingsNation] (The author seems to believe Daley shoots right. I dunno.) 1 minute ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: His pace during this current call up would make him the most productive player per game in the entire Liiga, behind only former NHLer Jussi Jokinen. And he's doing this on the worst team in the Liiga. Finnish Mafia when? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Dabura said: Here's a stats-heavy piece on Hronek: Filip Hronek's Ice Time Continues to Rise and He's Earned It [WingsNation] (The author seems to believe Daley shoots right. I dunno.) Finnish Mafia when? When we throw 2.5 at Filppula to replace Nielsen, who replaced Weiss, who replaced Filppula, who now ironically plays for the Islanders for half the cost of Nielsen. 1 1 Dabura and Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) For perspective: Kakko has 34 in 42 games and is the consensus #2 for the 2019 draft, while Kivenmaki has 14 in 30 this season in the Liiga. Considering Kivenmaki has 11 of those 14 points in his last 9 games is VERY encouraging. Kakko is almost exactly 1 year younger and is like 7" taller and 60 pounds heavier than Otto. Kivenmaki is now producing in a mens league at about the same clip as Kakko despite his size. Hes still a long shot for the nhl, but hes making the right strides in that direction. From what I've heard he's not exactly a defensive slouch either. Gives me tingles of Datsyuk. The ONLY thing holding this kid back is size. He's tiny. If our nutritionists can get him to become a Marty St Louis beefcake we might really have something here. Edited March 7, 2019 by ChristopherReevesLegs 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 7, 2019 15 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: For perspective: Kakko has 34 in 42 games and is the consensus #2 for the 2019 draft, while Kivenmaki has 14 in 30 this season in the Liiga. Considering Kivenmaki has 11 of those 14 points in his last 9 games is VERY encouraging. Kakko is almost exactly 1 year younger and is like 7" taller and 60 pounds heavier than Otto. Kivenmaki is now producing in a mens league at about the same clip as Kakko despite his size. Hes still a long shot for the nhl, but hes making the right strides in that direction. From what I've heard he's not exactly a defensive slouch either. Gives me tingles of Datsyuk. The ONLY thing holding this kid back is size. He's tiny. If our nutritionists can get him to become a Marty St Louis beefcake we might really have something here. Size doesnt matter 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Size doesnt matter Can confirm. I have no idea how to use my 9" shnotzengruben so it's pretty much wasted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: Can confirm. I have no idea how to use my 9" shnotzengruben so it's pretty much wasted. Throw it on the grill. Slap it in a kaiser bun. Smother it with suerkraut and Dusseldorf mustard. Edited March 8, 2019 by Neomaxizoomdweebie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: Throw it on the grill. Slap it in a kaiser bun. Smother it with suerkraut and grey poupon. Babay 15 is my limit 1 Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted March 9, 2019 2 krsmith17 and Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted March 12, 2019 Ramblings (March 11) [DobberProspects] Quote Detroit’s seventh-round selection Otto Kivenmäki has been on fire lately. He started the season with three points in 21 games but since then he’s put up 12 points in 11 games. His team Ässät has had a horrible season as they’re dead last in the Liiga but Kivenmäki has been a bright spot on the team. He’s been a center in junior but has played mostly wing at the pro level. Because of his size (5-9, 146), it’s very likely he stays at wing for good. He’s been playing on their top line and getting very good ice time since the calendar flipped to 2019. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoweFan 74 Report post Posted March 12, 2019 I think our top five picks last year were the best in many years. But I think we have some gems in the bottom four also. Eliasson is having a great season. O'Reilly was my fav late pick at the draft and although he didn't seem to put up the same numbers as last year he remains my favourite. Brattstrom is doing well but may be up against it with our blossoming prospect depth in goal. Kivenmaki his everyone rooting for him and as responded well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,527 Report post Posted March 12, 2019 So we're all in agreement that if Kivenmaki plays for the Red Wings one day we're calling him "Otter" right? 1 Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted March 12, 2019 8 hours ago, kipwinger said: So we're all in agreement that if Kivenmaki plays for the Red Wings one day we're calling him "Otter" right? >Kid named Otto >Motor City >Winged Wheel >No "auto" pun Sad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites