gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Haven’t been this excited about the Wings in a minute. Looking a lot more likely that this could be a very interesting day. Weird losing Abs in a way, but man that guy dropped off the earth last few years. Not a great contract. Guess they see more potential upside with Nielsen. I could see him perhaps having a comeback with a bit more talent around him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, gcom007 said: Haven’t been this excited about the Wings in a minute. Looking a lot more likely that this could be a very interesting day. Weird losing Abs in a way, but man that guy dropped off the earth last few years. Not a great contract. Guess they see more potential upside with Nielsen. I could see him perhaps having a comeback with a bit more talent around him. Nielsen is still effective in the defensive side of the puck. Can play center and take faceoffs. Good at the shootout. Overpaid, but still more effective than Abby at this point. 2 Akakabuto and kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, CatBoyRossi said: Abdelkader to Edmonton. 4x4. NTC 7 minutes ago, CatBoyRossi said: Abby and Jimmy gone and Big E gone Those have been some staples for some time. Yzerman is ending an era. A losing era Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, CatBoyRossi said: Then why have profit sharing at all? Why have the cap at all? Clearly Arizona, Florida, Columbus, Ottawa, etc are just incompetent. Let them fail and kill the sport in emerging markets. It is really so much to ask to have big market teams - who are generating close to $300 million in revenue each season - dish out another $10-30 million each year so that smaller markets can actually have the same buying power? It's ridiculous that original 6 teams - who could turn a profit with a drunk chimp in a business suit - have full market power... but small market teams we are trying to grow the sport in don't cause they're new. It's a clear advantage and has nothing to do with competency of ownership. The owners agreed on all of it. Ask them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Akakabuto said: Trade Helm! Demote Nielsen! Helm is trade deadline bait! Despite what many here think, he has value for contenders. 2 krsmith17 and LeftWinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,863 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, marcaractac said: Helm is trade deadline bait! Despite what many here think, he has value for contenders. Just getting excited Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Akakabuto said: Just getting excited Imma miss Helm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akakabuto 1,863 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, marcaractac said: Imma miss Helm I agree with what you posted above. Helm is a good boy and has value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Akakabuto said: I agree with what you posted above. Helm is a good boy and has value. Helm and Glenny will do us well come trade deadline. 1 ely s reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ely s 458 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, marcaractac said: Helm and Glenny will do us well come trade deadline. I will miss both Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, CatBoyRossi said: I'm sure owners of small market teams would agree with me. Unfortunately the NHL rigs everything for the big market teams. Its not "rigged". Larger, established markets will always have an easier time of it. But they had to work to get there too. Newer, smaller markets shouldnt be able to benefit from the work done by those who already did. They need to do the same work before they receive the same reward. 31 minutes ago, marcaractac said: Helm and Glenny will do us well come trade deadline. Glenny will be back even if traded. He's a lifer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,772 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CatBoyRossi said: Toronto literally trades for players so they can LTIR them. Meanwhile many teams can't spend to the cap. That's not a fair playing field I'm not asking for teams to gift other teams "rewards". I'm positing that they should revenue share enough so that all teams can compete within the cap. That would increase parity, fairness, and grow the sport in poor markets. Honestly it's a great idea. Small and nontraditional market success is lame and is for pinko commie losers. Who wants to see Tampa win the Cup after years of near misses and heartbreak? And don't even get me started on Washington. Much better if the Blackhawks just win every other year. It's the way it should be. Edited October 6, 2020 by kipwinger 1 2 CatBoyRossi, town123 and Akakabuto reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, CatBoyRossi said: Taking a small amount of revenue to help struggling markets compete and grow a small niche sport instead of lining the pockets of Rogers with another 300 million is pinko communism? Well count me out! >Boohoo nobody watches hockey and it isn't taken seriously like basketball or football Well how about we grow the sport? >No Ice vendor in AZ: Business is booming! I can't keep up with orders! Ice vendor in AK: No fair! Give me some of your money! We need to grow the ice industry together! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Yup - just as I expected... https://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-steven-stamkos-isn-t-among-tampa-bay-lightning-untouchables-1.1534903 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 K im still waiting for vegas to just cave in and give us that 1st for fleury, whos a team we can flip him to? eastern conference carolina toronto - dont know if theyd consider that an upgrade , think fleury folds with the pressure there Boston - if they actually deal rask, which i dont think will be the case buffalo devils western conference Oilers flames arizona chicago Colorado Now if vegas desperately want to get rid of salary to chase pietrangelo etc... they cant nitpick , if they nix a deal to who the redwings will want to deal with itll be teams in their own division especially since theyll want to be in the top 3 edmonton calgary arizona are out imo , fleury has a ntc so i dont think he wants to go to new jersey or buffalo unless he’s really desperate and i dont see leafs and bruins in on it when itll end Has to be colorado , chicago , carolina colorado - 1st 2020 pick for fleury 3.5 Blackhawks - 1st 2021, dont think theyll want to give up the 17th pick carolina - 1st 2021, dont think theyll want to give up 13th pick and likely will have to add something if we have to take reimer dont know who else outside detroit would freely eat 3.5 x2 , lets get this s*** done stevie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: K im still waiting for vegas to just cave in and give us that 1st for fleury, whos a team we can flip him to? eastern conference carolina toronto - dont know if theyd consider that an upgrade , think fleury folds with the pressure there Boston - if they actually deal rask, which i dont think will be the case buffalo devils western conference Oilers flames arizona chicago Colorado Now if vegas desperately want to get rid of salary to chase pietrangelo etc... they cant nitpick , if they nix a deal to who the redwings will want to deal with itll be teams in their own division especially since theyll want to be in the top 3 edmonton calgary arizona are out imo , fleury has a ntc so i dont think he wants to go to new jersey or buffalo unless he’s really desperate and i dont see leafs and bruins in on it when itll end Has to be colorado , chicago , carolina colorado - 1st 2020 pick for fleury 3.5 Blackhawks - 1st 2021, dont think theyll want to give up the 17th pick carolina - 1st 2021, dont think theyll want to give up 13th pick and likely will have to add something if we have to take reimer dont know who else outside detroit would freely eat 3.5 x2 , lets get this s*** done stevie If Yzerman got MAF, I don't think he would flip him. We're already getting an asset or 2 back and we do need a starting goalie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said: If Yzerman got MAF, I don't think he would flip him. We're already getting an asset or 2 back and we do need a starting goalie. Its called gaining assets and being the 3rd team to facilitate a move , dont think we take on fleury at 7 per x2 yzerman just needs to take the 1st and flip Edited October 6, 2020 by nyqvististhefuture 1 town123 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: K im still waiting for vegas to just cave in and give us that 1st for fleury, whos a team we can flip him to? eastern conference carolina toronto - dont know if theyd consider that an upgrade , think fleury folds with the pressure there Boston - if they actually deal rask, which i dont think will be the case buffalo devils western conference Oilers flames arizona chicago Colorado Now if vegas desperately want to get rid of salary to chase pietrangelo etc... they cant nitpick , if they nix a deal to who the redwings will want to deal with itll be teams in their own division especially since theyll want to be in the top 3 edmonton calgary arizona are out imo , fleury has a ntc so i dont think he wants to go to new jersey or buffalo unless he’s really desperate and i dont see leafs and bruins in on it when itll end Has to be colorado , chicago , carolina colorado - 1st 2020 pick for fleury 3.5 Blackhawks - 1st 2021, dont think theyll want to give up the 17th pick carolina - 1st 2021, dont think theyll want to give up 13th pick and likely will have to add something if we have to take reimer dont know who else outside detroit would freely eat 3.5 x2 , lets get this s*** done stevie As you mentioned few teams are capable of absorbing any significant cap hit - be it MAF, Stamkos, or even Nylander (that is if the Leafs are serious in signing UFA Petro - they need to move a big contract). Unique position we are in - hmm - improving team by not only adding players - by adding assets too - hmm... 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said: Yzerman needs to be in on this... 4 xault, kliq, amato and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Yzerman needs to be in on this... Like I had asked last week...What would it take? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Yzerman needs to be in on this... Just take the first and flip him f*** , this better not be a marleau repeat ... we NEED to get this one , they want a 1 and 2 to take half? Wtf wonder if we can get a 1st and 2nd for taking no money and then flipping him? This can be a major haul for us ? 2 1sts and a 2nd ? 2 1sts? Letssss goooo! this draft can decide how fast we turn this team around , huge two days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, CatBoyRossi said: Yzerman is doing Yoga. Then calling Marco before the draft. The Red Wings are done for the day. To tell him the chats they had those late nights we’re special but his hearts telling him to go elsewhere? While hakan holds a gun to his head? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xault 272 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Lets say we get MAF, but only 2nd this year. Shameful Dispray? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,019 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 Ahhhh s*** son. Yzerman's going to take Perfetti and also not acquire any more picks. And that should keep this place good and fun until at least American Thanksgiving. 2 1 F.Michael, Akakabuto and xault reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xault 272 Report post Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Ahhhh s*** son. Yzerman's going to take Askarov and also not acquire any more picks. And that should keep this place good and fun until at least 2023. I fixed it 2 Akakabuto and The 91 of Ryans reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
