Ericsson fought Benn earlier in the game. I thought that thing was supposed to stop cheap shots and make rats and other rodents scared. Still Benn hit Z right in front of Ericsson. How is that possible? Didn't Ericsson enforce Benn enough or is Benn just too much of a rat to understand "the code"?
Or maybe Ericsson doesn't punch hard enough? McGrattan would have punched Benn into the next dimension.
All things considered, would you say that this picture represents the "Golden Age" of the NHL? I mean, did it ever get any better?
This is one of my favorite WTF sports pictures.
Now, back to the topic. Interesting note, there are only 6 players in Wings history to play 1,000 games for the franchise. Howe, Lidstrom, Yzerman, Delvecchio, Draper and Holmstrom. Draper and Homer weren't top players so they'll never get their jersey retired. And of course 1,000 games isn't a necessity to have your jersey retired. However, it'd be hard to keep Datsyuk and Zetterberg away from the rafters if they each play 1,000 games being star players for most of their careers. I can't think of too many teams that have had a star player play 1,000 games for the franchise and not have their number retired.
Maybe at his peak. That's the thing about Hasek. He got beat out by Osgood at one point. I'd say he's right on par with Roy and Broduer. As much as I loath Patrick Waaaaaaaaa the guy was unreal between the pipes most of his career. And Broduer done changed the game with his style of play.
It's like people who still think Babe Ruth is the best of all time. Like his fat white *language* wouldn't get handed to him in today's MLB.
That being said. You gotta respect the guy for what he did in HIS era. Was Osgood one of the best of the waning cap period? That can be argued.
Dude, Mathie Dandenault transported back to the 1950's would be the best player in the NHL. Doesn't mean he's better all time than Richard or Howe. Babe Ruth is the best baseball player of all time, precisely because he was ahead of his era and better at his era than anyone else at theirs.
Osgood won the Cup as a starter twice, ten years apart, under two different coaches, systems, and teams (with totally different core players). The "we could have won with anybody" argument doesn't hold water because it makes it seem like he just got that one right in the middle of a dynasty, and then never did s*** again. Fun fact, he outplayed Dominik Hasek to get his second Cup.
Osgood was a system goalie only if you mean that regardless of the system, time, players, and coach, he was perfect for the system he was in.
But I'm happy that GMRwings brought this up. Because it's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. The only arguments against Osgood are dumb ones.
Get off your pony. I didn't say he sucked. I just don't think his number belongs up there with the other players the Wings have in the rafters. Most posters here and most knowledgeable hockey people would agree with me that Osgood isn't a Sawchuk or a Lindsey or a Lidstrom.
I also don't seem him being in the HHOF. Osgood is a very good goalie that will never be considered an elite goalie. He was never one of the two or three best goalies in the league. He never won the Vezina. Hell, I think he was only top 3 in Vezina voting once in his career. He is above most of his peers, but below the top echelon of his peers like Hasek, Roy, Brodeur and Belfour. Some would rank him below Cujo as well, despite the latter's lack of team accomplishments.
His numbers are impressive and reflect a great career, but much in the same way that Dave Andreychuk's numbers or Dino Ciccarelli's numbers reflect a great career. Yet, those guys are unable to crack the HHOF or be considered among the greatest forwards in league history. It's not just about numbers.
But hey, those are all dumb arguments, because kipwinger doesn't like them. Let's retire Ozzie number and proclaim him a top 10 all time goalie.