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#2524257 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 01:45 PM

 

Because he doesn't score 5 goals a game like he did that one time. Therefore he is lazy and he sucks and he is overpaid.

 

He's not lazy, he just never grew out of his prepubescent social anxiety and fear of scoring goals. He purposely misses so he can play on the super fun 4th line with cool guys like Cleary.




#2524255 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 01:36 PM

 

I hear ya, and I want to believe it. But I still have that shred of worry that he will find himself on the team. 

 

Even if he is on GR, he could be up as soon as the first injury, potentially over one of our prospects like Mantha or Pulk. I'm not saying it is the worst move ever, but still... I don't like it.

 

I'd prefer if he wasn't on the team at all either, but he did sign cheap last season with an agreement that his contract would be renewed. Though he underperformed, I like and respect the fact that Wings are keeping their word. If it's his leadership the wings love then I have no problem with him GR mentoring future Wings.




#2524252 Trading up?

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 01:27 PM

Yes, Captain Obvious, if you want to play it safe this is not a deal for you. It's a risk, but a calculated one imo. I have never said otherwise.

 

And there's a reason my point is obvious. Trading away your franchise player and captain for an overhyped draft pick isn't a calculated risk, it's NHL 14 fantasy la la land.




#2524245 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 01:11 PM

 

It isn't hard to grasp, it is just hard to 100% believe - considering he beat out Nyquist last season when he had absolutely no business being on the team in the first place, it is not out of the realm of possibility to believe they might inexplicably give him a spot over some other youngster to start this season as well (Jurco, Mantha maybe). I think that's what is worrying most folks.

 

My other issue is, I don't even particularly want him taking up a spot on GR either. 

 

It's already been stated by management that jobs have been taken. Kids are in, vets are out. The contract being discussed is 2-way for a reason. If he earns a spot in the lineup which I, and I think we all doubt, then more power to him.




#2524240 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 12:55 PM

He's going to GR to be a mentor, only way he returns to the wings is if he beats out a kid for a spot. Don't see how that's so hard to grasp.




#2524215 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 11:34 AM

The points are the same but I'd argue that 27 and 11 are a far cry from 16 and 25. We need him putting the puck in the net more, not trying to be fancy.


Sure, but I wouldn't call it a FAR cry. And regardless it still doesn't make sense to buy out his contract when he'd likely get even more per year from another team.


#2524210 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 11:25 AM

because the Wings need size, grit, toughness and gamebreakers and some $ for the younger players ?


Plus you buy out players who are not performing up to their contract. Currently Franzen is.


#2524207 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 11:20 AM

because the Wings need size, grit, toughness and gamebreakers and some $ for the younger players ?


The wings will have close to 8 - 12 million after re-signings, depending on who is retained. Go find another player who produces at his rate for the same price, spoiler: you can't.


#2524204 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 11:14 AM

This is a message board I don't care if my  argument sticks or not but the fact his,  this series truly gave some fans and maybe the front office a false look on where this team really is. Boston on the other hand provided a very clear picture and not a good one at that.


So Boston was a good indicator and for some reason Chicago was a bad indicator.... Ok?

Like I said, both teams were better than us. And we lost to both of them. I take no false hope from the Chicago series, but I also don't give up hope over the Boston series.

If you don't care about your argument on this message board why do u bother posting?


#2524199 Eaves is OUT in Nashville

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 10:56 AM

*wings sign Patrick preds sign David*


#2524195 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 10:38 AM

Guess what ? I'm starting to wish Chicago would have man handled us so that stupid "we gave them all they could handle" mantra would have never happened. Fact is, Chicago underestimated the 8 seeded Wings and played cocky for a few games. The Bruins clearly gave an indication on where this team is and the reality is, nowhere near cup contention.
 
when your two best players and the best coach in hockey are starting to get eager you know things aren't going well and they haven't since 2009.


"I wish we played worse so my argument would stick"

We lost to two good teams, that's all that happened, forget the rest. I don't think anyone here thought we were truly to superior to either of those teams. We don't suck, we're just not Boston, Chicago, LA good at the moment.


#2524194 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 10:32 AM

Yes Holland was stupid,  stupid because he listened to BABCOCK and not only resigned Cleary but committed to more than just one year. What a crock of **** that turned into.


Babs AND Holland wanted Cleary back. Get with the times.


#2524184 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 10:03 AM

Not using it on Franzen will bite this team in the ass very soon but whatever had to be expected. Hopefully Tootoo can get a spot somewhere else.


He's putting up the same numbers he did in 2008, why in the world would we buy him out now?


#2524172 Trading up?

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 09:42 AM

Zetterberg is a good but not legendary captain in a post Lidstrom era and the Red Wings need to rebuild. So, no I dont see much similarity at all actually. Great rewards rarely come without risk, and in this case I think Ekblad could prove to be worth it.


COULD. Could be a huge waste of talent too. Everyone's high on draft picks this time of year. Few come even close to Z or Y


#2524168 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by number9 on 17 June 2014 - 09:31 AM

seems I said this might happen in my rant about re-signing Monster in the Future Needs thread... Holland is so predictable. The entire world knows how the Wings need to get better and change, yet Holland still tries to sign his little "projects" and re-sign his vets that were worthless for at least two years...Holland needs to go.  I am officially WAY off the Holland wagon....He is on the same list as Franzen now. This is going to be a fun year of losing and bitching about our useless GM and Vets.
 
Does anyone still believe Holland is a genius? If you do, you need to be checked out... Alfredsson, Monster and Cleary have ZERO business being in a Wings uniform EVER again.


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