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#2577999 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 03 March 2015 - 02:28 PM

Really hoping garlic bread plays on the top line. He was doing well on Dallas's this last month.


#2577113 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 02 March 2015 - 12:06 AM

 

Case in point, in reference to my inability to be swayed (sarcasm)...

 

I forgot about Holland holding the Director of Amateur Scouting position at that time...which is certainly impressive.

 

Even since Holland has been making bad trades...they have done a masterful job of rebuilding through scouting/draft. My point was (although i can see where i did a bad job of getting it across) was that we can't say with must accuracy that we can credit Holland for that. There are so many moving pieces with scouting/drafting...but there isn't nearly as much in trading. 


 

Obviously that isn't the same situation. I understand your logic, but your trainee wasn't Steve Yzerman. Your boss wasn't Ilitch and you aren't making a truckload of money to run a sports team. 

 

 

Then you obviously know nothing about me you 29 year old fool. You've only been following the wings for 21 years? Pathetic.




#2577107 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:57 PM

I was responding to your posts in the same tone and context to which I was being spoken to, if you found that to be instigating, then I apologize for that and "calling you out."

I wasn't disrespecting you, I was stating my opinion on the matter.

 

I was responding to your posts in the same tone and context to which I was being spoken to, if you found that to be instigating, then I apologize for that and "calling you out."

I wasn't disrespecting you, I was stating my opinion on the matter.

 

NO YOU HURT MY FEELINGS




#2577105 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:55 PM

 

I don't take it as not being a pushover...i view it as selfish. Sure, it his job. A job that he's had 4 times as long as 95% of GM's. That said, he knew what Yzerman meant to this franchise, the city, and to the Ilitch family. I'm sure he would have been paid as much. If he was so unhappy, most teams would have hired him id imagine. But he HAD to be the GM at the expense of Yzerman leaving...most likely to not return. That, to me, isn't balls...its almost disrespectful to the wishes of the owner and the fans.

 

I know. I quit my job recently because the guy I trained to be a manager (I'm a manager as well) wanted my job. So instead on sending him to the branch that needed a manager I stepped down and assumed a corporate job I hate. Ain't I a good guy? Praise me.




#2577089 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:37 PM

 

Yeah, suuuuure it is.  Because you're so super, duper, ultra smart.  Riiiiiiiiiiight.  I never condescend, and that's the best way to get people to listen.  But I wouldn't expect a girl like you to understand that. 

 

:bye1:

 

#triggered




#2577084 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:35 PM

 

You guys are fascinating today...i didn't call you or anyone other than that kid into question. I respect a lot of the people that post here because they post rational, fact based, respectful responses...I just thought his response ("....just because the vibes Holland gives off tell you that he's a crappy gm") was not accurate and was not what i said. But please go back two needlessly making me into "that guy"

 

Would you like to join the club? Heads up, we're only respectful of intelligent/hilarious responses




#2577074 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:28 PM

 

Wow...missing the point much? Holland clearly is regarded as a good GM. Im sure he learned something...that said, I believe he's overrated because of the team he used to have around him. Same way that people still debate Roy over Brodeur even though Marty has way more stats to back his claim. Marty's stats were skewed by the system he was in. Roy's weren't, generally. That doesn't mean Brodeur wasn't a great goalie...it just means he may not be what people think. I Marty would have been traded to the Isles in '02...it may be a completely different conversation. I think if Holland took over Carolina right now...we'd see him a lot differently. I don't think he would go into there like Nill went into to Dallas.

 

So you're deciding to base your entire line of  argument on "what if Holland went to a bad/different team?" And then assuming he would do bad? Despite that there exists zero evidence to back that conclusion? Or any conclusion involving that premise?

 

Goodluck with the straw grasping brother. I'm out.




#2577070 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:24 PM

 

How old are you? May I ask? I turn 29 this month and I've followed the Wings religiously my entire life from age 8. For some reason i actually retain most of the generally useless history, info, players, trades, and dialogue I've heard along the way. I've followed the Wings for the entirety of Holland's tenure as GM and I have a particular addiction to information I've come across about NHL front offices. I like to think, as a fan, I'm about as informed as I can be enough to make the claims I do.

 

Holland has done a lot of things right in his time with the Wings, but he also had an All-Star cast of Front Office support along the way...not limited to Dellevano, Scotty Bowman (who I believe brought way more than people even thought...and they thought he brought a lot), Nill, Mark Howe, and several others. But since those people have started moving on, his ability to make good trades has nose dived. If Babcock creates good coaches, I believe Holland was created by other good front office people. HE does not seem to be a great stand alone GM. The two things that he is most credited for are also other peoples jobs (cap management and scouting). 

 

This is far more than vibes bro, but thanks for playing.

 

I turn 30 in a month and I've been following the Wings since I was 7. Get rekt.




#2577058 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:09 PM

 

How old are you? May I ask? I turn 29 this month and I've followed the Wings religiously my entire life from age 8. For some reason i actually retain most of the generally useless history, info, players, trades, and dialogue I've heard along the way. I've followed the Wings for the entirety of Holland's tenure as GM and I have a particular addiction to information I've come across about NHL front offices. I like to think, as a fan, I'm about as informed as I can be enough to make the claims I do.

 

Holland has done a lot of things right in his time with the Wings, but he also had an All-Star cast of Front Office support along the way...not limited to Dellevano, Scotty Bowman (who I believe brought way more than people even thought...and they thought he brought a lot), Nill, Mark Howe, and several others. But since those people have started moving on, his ability to make good trades has nose dived. If Babcock creates good coaches, I believe Holland was created by other good front office people. HE does not seem to be a great stand alone GM. The two things that he is most credited for are also other peoples jobs (cap management and scouting). 

 

This is far more than vibes bro, but thanks for playing.

 

110% true. Lower level employees do ALL the work. It's not like managers hire, manage employees, and guide the overall vision of the business. They just sit in their office and kick tires while watching netflix. Bums. Fire them. NOW.

 

EDIT: Clearly Holland never learned anything while working with so many great hockey men. Which is baffling considering how are teams stays elite by great vets teaching great young kids. Holland MUST be slow or something.




#2577056 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:02 PM

Damn, I didn't know he was only 5'8.

 

Most likely why he never made the NHL. But he's got the hands of a top 6 NHL center. Nosek has the size that fits the NHL, but he's not quite as skilled. I think that's why I like guys like Pulks and Jurco playing with Miele. When they get to the NHL they'll be up to speed on the skill game.




#2577052 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 10:54 PM

Isn't mieles also like 5 yrs older and like 5'8?

 

Yeah, small and almost 27. But damn he lights up the minors. I have no problem with our young wingers learning and gaining confidence from him while in GR. That's what he's for.




#2577033 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 10:29 PM

So right now we're looking at something like this:

 

Tatar - Datsyuk - Cole

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader

Weiss - Sheahan - Glendening

Miller - Andersson - Cleary

Pulkkinen

 

If everyone gets healthy (I know I included zberg in the first lineup, he's almost back)

 

Tatar - Datsyuk - Cole

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader

Helm - Sheahan - Franzen

Miller - Weiss - Glendening

 

All 4 of those line can be a threat defensively and offensively. That's pretty sick. Now the defense...




#2576825 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 08:09 PM

Abby + Franzen = Cole.

 

I think our top 6 just got way more dangerous and less one-dimensional.

 

Tatar - Datsyuk - Cole

Nyquist - Zetters - Abby

 

If Franzan can come back we'll be lookin even betta




#2575713 Red Wings Road Fans Appreciation

Posted by number9 on 27 February 2015 - 08:18 PM

I feel like a lot of people have left Michigan for greener pastures (including myself). Hence why there are a lot of transplanted Wings fans, especially south/west where the economy is doing better.




#2575693 Couture suspen.....no wait, just fined pocket change

Posted by number9 on 27 February 2015 - 05:57 PM

:lol: That is only 0.00083% of his $6,000,000 salary....that'd be like me getting fined $67! I have a feeling I'd miss the $67 more than he is going to miss the $5000. NHLPA is some bulls***.  In the video he even lifted his leg way back in the opposite direction to get a good whack at Smith.  I've never seen a worse slew foot, and am I hearing right that Smith is the one who got a hooking penalty on the play?  Wow NHL, Wow....

 

You make $80,000 a year