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#2577072 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 01 March 2015 - 11:25 PM

 
How old are you? May I ask? I turn 29 this month and I've followed the Wings religiously my entire life from age 8. For some reason i actually retain most of the generally useless history, info, players, trades, and dialogue I've heard along the way. I've followed the Wings for the entirety of Holland's tenure as GM and I have a particular addiction to information I've come across about NHL front offices. I like to think, as a fan, I'm about as informed as I can be enough to make the claims I do.
 
Holland has done a lot of things right in his time with the Wings, but he also had an All-Star cast of Front Office support along the way...not limited to Dellevano, Scotty Bowman (who I believe brought way more than people even thought...and they thought he brought a lot), Nill, Mark Howe, and several others. But since those people have started moving on, his ability to make good trades has nose dived. If Babcock creates good coaches, I believe Holland was created by other good front office people. HE does not seem to be a great stand alone GM. The two things that he is most credited for are also other peoples jobs (cap management and scouting). 
 
This is far more than vibes bro, but thanks for playing.

Ha. Here's the thing man.
I'm not playing, and even if I were, the sh** you're talking about isn't something you win, your bravado, cockiness, and knowledge of the red wings is all well and good, but you're basing everything you're saying off speculation.

There's no proving your point, and even if and when these prospects, ken Holland, and Jim nill all retire there will be no set way to determine who won this, because hockey IS a game, and their will always be ambiguity about things.
If the prospects make it in one place, theirs no guarantees they would've made it in the other.
And for all this Jim nill ken Holland who's better, who's worthless bs is obnoxious.
The fact that you lay it out So cut and dry, in such matter of fact way with your attitude doesn't make me want to discuss stuff with you, it makes me devalue anything you say.
And anyone who talks about it as such, is not old enough to have an adult conversation on the matter, regardless of age.

The more you know, the less you know.
Now please.
Stop trying to argue with me over something so little.
I don't think we gave up that much.
You do.
I get it.
You're not changing my opinion, no matter how much you tell me you know, and I'm not changing yours. And that's fine.


#2577041 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 01 March 2015 - 10:43 PM


I have a feeling Holland could have traded this same package for a time traveling hossa from 09' and people would still be coming here ripping this move, just because the vibes Holland gives off tell you that he's a crappy gm.


#2576969 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 01 March 2015 - 09:17 PM

 
FLA just got Jagr for a 2nd and a 3rd. Is Cole better than Jagr? Even if you think so...are Backman and Janmark worth more than a 3rd?

No.
Noone wouldve given us a third rounder for those two right now, so no. They are not worth a third.
And in the grand scheme of things, of course jagrs better than cole, he's fifth in all time scoring.
But Coles got more points this year, is more physical, and is faster.


#2576950 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 01 March 2015 - 09:01 PM


You scared the s*** out of me f***! I thought we had just traded jurco lol

I thought the same thing.
Ha.
I seen Jurco and the colored lettering and almost started crying.


#2576945 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 01 March 2015 - 08:58 PM

 
I've followed Jarnkrok's time with Nashville this year, out of curiosity. They played him under 10 minutes for a good part of the year and he still has better numbers than most teams 4th liners. Just wait, Jarnkrok is far from done.
 
I, for one, don't understand why Holland routinely pays higher prices than all other teams for his acquisitions. Not only that...youd think we'd get at least a decent deal out of Yzerman or Nill...but it seems like they are more than happy to deal with Holland, and for good reason. Two decent prospects AND a 2nd for a 36 year old UFA? Two years ago the Stars couldn't of gave him away. Jarnkrok, by himself, is an overpayment for Legwand. Quincey was no where near worth a 1st. Everyone knew those things, the prices that were paid last year were 75% of what we gave for Legwand and it's basically the same this year. I've been nervous for a week, basically knowing we'd make a deal and knowing Holland would over pay. Im terrified that we'll get a good defenseman and trade a really good player. 
 
Are we going to resign Cole? It doesn't seem like it the way the roster is built. Everyone knew we wouldn't resign Legwand, and we shouldn't of...and we gave Jarnkrok for him and for a 1st round exit. I don't think we'll resign Cole, and is he really the piece that will put us over the edge? I think the dman that we should get is a bigger deal...and now we have 2 less prospects and Holland's favorite pick to trade off the table. The only guys left to trade are scary ones to lose.

Have you seen what other teams are paying this year?

This is a fair deal both ways.

And we had to make room for all the centers we drafted last year to come into the system.
Holmstrom, ehn, vahatalo, kadeykin, and turgeon.
Janmark isn't worth all this griping.


#2576839 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 01 March 2015 - 08:12 PM

I doubt they make a move on defense, now. I was thinking that 2nd rounder would be involved. Not sure they give up a 1st and risk not having anything until the 4th round.

We won't give up our first this year, but we have all of our 2016 picks still.


#2576827 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 01 March 2015 - 08:09 PM

Cole is still fast, his skating is most likely his best asset, not helm fast, but he's fast.

Janmark would probably never play for us, and even if he did, I've never seen or read anything that puts his ceiling above a 3rd liner. The chances Backman ever played a game for us or even for the griffins was minimal.

The second round pick we gave up hurts a little, but if he gets hurt or we don't make the ECF we get a third rounder.
This doesn't sound like a bad deal at all.


#2576763 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 01 March 2015 - 07:49 PM

We gave up a second.
But we get our third rounder back.
This is seems like a really good deal.


#2575828 2/28 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Predators 3

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 28 February 2015 - 01:33 PM

So I'm about to be on my way to my grandfathers, hes having some pretty serious health issues and I'll be staying the night in case he needs to be rushed to the hospital.
As they have no WiFi, I won't be able to join in on the GDT today so someone's gonna have to criticize datsyuk and pulkkinen for me to get them going.

LETS GO WINGS!


#2575773 Hi , new to the forum

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 28 February 2015 - 10:53 AM

You're a sweetheart mabus.


#2575772 2/28 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Predators 3

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 28 February 2015 - 10:52 AM

So,I heard the Stanley Cup is in Nashville today,Does that mean that the preds get to keep it :w00t:  :lol:  :yahoo:  :shout:

If, and only if, the wings don't win it this year, I hope the press do.
But I hope we destroy the preds tonight, and every game we play them for the rest of all time.


#2575629 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 27 February 2015 - 02:21 PM

DON'T TOUCH MY ZETTERS

Nobody better lay a finger on my zetterberger.


#2575617 2/26 GDT : Red Wings 3 at San Jose Sharks 2

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 27 February 2015 - 01:44 PM

I believe everything evens out in the end.
The refs miss some for us, and some against us, same goes for every other team.
The only difference is were paying closer attention to the ones missed on is because those are our guys.


#2575487 2/26 GDT : Red Wings 3 at San Jose Sharks 2

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 27 February 2015 - 01:14 AM

Very civilized.


#2575363 2/26 GDT : Red Wings 3 at San Jose Sharks 2

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 27 February 2015 - 12:43 AM

Just wanted to mention that Marchenko reads plays exceptionally well, and seems very poised for sucha young man.

I think hes better than petry already.
Ha