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#2623813 Dan Cleary re-signing still possible?

Posted by roboturner on 24 August 2015 - 07:45 PM

I dont want this to happen, but I'm not going to lie, it would be hilarious to watch a couple people on this site freak out about it.

I will be one of them. Dear god, this guy has got to start living in reality. It's not 2009 anymore...


It's been what, 4 years since he's been any sort of useful? He's already been given 2 charity contracts (which is just something that should never ever happen if you're serious about putting together a competitive team).


I'm sure at one point he was a good 'locker room guy', but I can't see any way in which his behavior over the past few seasons could have been good for morale, especially for the younger guys. I'm sure watching a guy, with no production whatsoever, collect a paycheck just for showing up and going through the motions at practices is a great example to set


I don't even want him on the Griffins. In fact, I don't even want him with the organization in any capacity anymore. GO AWAY DAN!!! GO AWAY!

#2623880 What's your roster lines ?

Posted by kipwinger on 26 August 2015 - 08:45 AM

I know that the general opinion these days is that Zetterberg should play on Datsyuk's wing.  And I'm not even against that really.  Or at least starting the season that way.  But eventually I'd like to see Zetterberg line up next to Richards. 


First, because stylistically I think they'd play well with one another.  Both are supremely slick offensive players who read the game insanely well.  I think they'd give teams fits the way Selanne and Koivu did for Anaheim a couple years ago. 


Secondly, because Tomas Tatar is the best scoring winger we've got.  He already plays well with Datsyuk, and I'd hate to see his ice time reduced because "let's reunite Dats and Z, that worked 8 years ago".  Tatar with Datsyuk and not Helm (Abby) is a legit first line with scoring potential.  A full season on the top line and Tatar will be the first Wing since Franzen and Hossa to score 30+ goals.  Something I don't see Zetterberg doing this year, no matter whose line he's on.

#2623672 Franzen back on ice

Posted by GoalieManPat on 21 August 2015 - 02:18 PM

He is a leader on this team, he's a veteran and he's trying to live up to the standards that were set in place by the players he learned the game from. If Datsyuk was drafted and played for almost any other franchise, he's not re-signing for three more years after his last deal was up. Zetterberg isn't rushing back from back surgery after six weeks to play against the bruins in the playoffs. They are the leadership group, and Franzen is a big part of it. IMO, he seems genuinely interested in trying to set the same example for the kids that was set for him when he was their age.


Franzen is one of the last people we want the youngsters taking an example from.  You want guys that go out giving 100% every shift of every game to be your leaders.  Not someone who says the regular season bores him or that hes not supposed to be a scorer as an excuse for his poor and streaky play. Look at his game before the contract and after and you will see he put himself into easy mode. He now will average 1-3 pts a night for 5-10 games and then disappear for the next 25-30. You'll win more with guys that consistently score a point game to game as opposed to someone who stocks up a couple points a for a couple games and then gets nothing the next quarter of the season. Especially when that player is in your top 6 and sees PP time. Ive said it before and I will continue to say it that if hes not scoring Franzen bring absolutely nothing to the team. When hes in his 20+ game slumps your better off having a 4th line grinder out there than him. Just because a guy is a veteran doesnt make him a good leader.


Now considering his health. When he states he went months without being able to hold his children for a couple minutes because of his head injury the fact that hes even trying to play again is messed up. As a fan of the team I dont want him back and as a human being not wanting to see another human with disabling brain damage I dont want to see him back.

#2623461 Number One Center vs. Number One Defenseman

Posted by Rivalred on 19 August 2015 - 08:18 AM

Give me a number one defenseman any day

Wings need to bring in another one one top of what they did

#2623367 Help! Where r Babs/Sapranos compare pics?

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 17 August 2015 - 10:14 PM


Livia Soprano

#2623510 What's your roster lines ?

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 19 August 2015 - 11:35 AM

so Franzen will be "healthy" to start the season, Holland will have to waive players and lose them for nothing, then Franzen will score 5 goals in 10 games and then go back on LTIR after floating around for 25 more games and getting 2 points in those 25 games, and this team will be less a couple of players that they invested tons of time and money into developing....just so Franzen can "play" in a few games.


That is the best scenario I've ever heard!


Keeping all of Ferraro and Callahan and Pulkkinen makes this team MUCH better than letting Franzen even sniff the ice...when will you learn?


That is fine though, give him the roster spot, lose valuable players, when January rolls around and he is playing even worse than last season, you will all turn on him again, and then when I say "told you so," you will scorch me up and down and make up stories that I only dislike him when its to my advantage and that my friends, uncle, sister, aunts, dad, mom, dog, cat, pig, iguana's doctor said that Helm is a Barbie doll...


Red Wings with Franzen = Garbage


This is true, but Holland has shown too much loyalty to former players to throw Franzen out.  Even Cleary is still associated with this team.  

#2623513 Getting bigger.

Posted by Rivalred on 19 August 2015 - 11:42 AM

Franzen was a beast in front of the net back in the day and took a serious beating. He was the last true power forward we had even though he didn't fight which imo doesn't make somebody a power forward

Homer took a beating in front of the next and along the boards more than Franzen

Just wanted to point this out.... Don't know if Franzen can be labeled a power forward

#2623472 Getting bigger.

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 19 August 2015 - 10:02 AM

This is a little misleading.  A lot of these prospects aren't known for physicality and many of them are Euros.  Being tall by itself doesn't make you a force to play against.    


For instance, Drew Miller is 6'2, but he's not a tougher physical presence than the much shorter Tootoo.  Franzen is 6'3, but has always played like a wuss.  Guys like Callahan and Ferraro are barely 6'0 tall, and they play a physical style.  

#2623424 What's your roster lines ?

Posted by Dabura on 18 August 2015 - 02:49 PM

Tatar  Datsyuk  Sheahan

Zetterberg  E. Staal  Pulkkinen

Franzen  Richards  Nyquist

Abdelkader  Glendening  Helm


Kronwall  Marchenko

DeKeyser  Green

Ericsson  Jensen





I cheated.

#2623398 What's your roster lines ?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 August 2015 - 11:53 AM

I know this thread is all relative, but Pulk as a 14th forward? He is sure to reach his potential there...

may as well just leave him off the roster as one of the "trades." Rather than waste him there.


Pulkkinen is in competition with Zetterberg, Nyquist, and Tatar for a top 9 scoring winger spot.  If he can't beat any of them out, then he doesn't have a spot on my team because he's not suited for any other role.  Similarly, if Helm wants back onto a scoring line he needs to out perform Abby, Franzen, Jurco.  Same with Ferraro for a position on the fourth line wing. 


It's about identifying roles, and creating competition for those roles.  Pulkkinen can't do anything other than be a scoring forward on a scoring line, and currently he's not better than any of the guys we already have doing that.  If he gets an opportunity and runs with it, good for him.  But he isn't gifted a roster spot based on "potential" in my book. 

#2622955 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by MrazekFanBoy on 12 August 2015 - 07:29 AM

Get ready to have the best power play in the league boys https://m.youtube.co...h?v=uSePqW9wXfM

#2622909 Nashville to wear gold helmets for Saturday games in 2015/2016

Posted by PredsFanTheBayouState on 11 August 2015 - 06:14 PM

Ugliest uniforms in the NHL just got uglier.

oh,please there have been more uglier uniforms in past years than the preds uniform.

#2622839 Las Vegas rumored to get an expansion team

Posted by Shinzaki on 11 August 2015 - 10:16 AM

hunter...you are arguing image vs reality.  You imagine that Vegas offers some unique cornucopia of sin and temptation that is going to be overwhelming to these impressionable young men.  It's hogwash...bunkum..I'd ever go so far as to say it's pure unadulterated hokum.  Yeah...I went there.  Prostitution is as illegal in Vegas as it is Detroit....who cares?  If these guys want to find a quick hook up, there's ample opportunity everywhere.....EVERYWHERE


Yes..Vegas will have sports books and no other state outside of Delaware does...what difference does that actually make?   There are other forms of gambling via casinos everywhere  (AGAIN... OUR OWNER HAS A CASINO) hell...you or I could fire up the smartphone and gamble online...who cares?   If a player is going to be susceptible to gambling issues, he will be just as susceptible in Detroit as Vegas.


Your fixation with Vegas as some hotbed of sin that you must protect these fine young men from is so childish and naive that I find it amusing

You wouldn't know it by going there. I'm sure enough of you have been to know you can't swing a dead prostitute without hitting a prostitute in Vegas.

I don't have the economic knowledge to question the expansion from a business standpoint, but I hate the idea as a hockey fan.


Re prostitution...same can be said for any town that hosts conventions with any regularity.  

#2621839 Free agents this off season

Posted by e_prime on 30 July 2015 - 11:31 AM

Not a single one of those forwards interest me.  The only way I'm taking on a forward is if we move a couple and it's for an upgrade.

These guys just aren't going to make any difference.


On D, the only two I had any interest were Franson and Ehrhoff... but that was before we got Green.

The only way I'm interested in either of them now is if we could move Kindl and Ericsson's contract.  Which just ain't likely to happen.

#2621569 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by martinezsvsu on 25 July 2015 - 04:27 PM

I'm hoping that is an experiment we will see.
PP #1 Hank, Pav, Abby Kronner, Green
PP #2 Nyquist, Richards, Jurco, Dekeyser, Pulkkinen.

Its pretty good but could use some tatar sauce