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#2686418 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kliq on 27 September 2016 - 06:13 PM

I guess what I'm saying is, no matter that they are hometown kids, you just cannot pass up on the opportunity to acquire one or both of these guys.  Holland should be calling ALL the lines in WPG and ANA, just so no other GM can get through!

 

We have the assets to get both these guys, cut ties Kenny and get this done! This is your future you are dealing with. DO IT! Outbid them ALL!!!

 

I feel like your expectations are impossible to meet. You specifically say "Outbid them ALL" then you say things like "No Larkin, No AA, No DD, No Mrazek etc." You cant have it both ways.

 

I hope Holland can get these guys with picks/our 2nd tier players, but based on everything I am reading, Winnipeg wants a top LH D-man, and from Detroit that would be DD.




#2686372 9/27 Exhibition GDT : Pittsburgh Penguins at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by joesuffP on 27 September 2016 - 08:26 AM

Pitts roster looks super weak. Hoping Blashill keeps that AA-Larkin-Mantha line together


#2686252 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 24 September 2016 - 07:10 PM

Kenny better be on line one and make that happen bring him home.

DannyD - Trouba as the top pair would be a nice draft

whatever the jets want you pay it


#2686251 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kliq on 24 September 2016 - 07:10 PM

Everything I'm reading on Twitter is saying Winnipeg wants a haul for Trouba. Even when the asking price inevitably comes down, still don't see Kenny pulling the trigger. Which sucks because Trouba would be awesome in the red and white. 

 

You got to think though, why would they say anything but. You try to get the best deal possible. I would fine with anyone going the other way except Mrazek and Larkin.




#2686249 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 24 September 2016 - 06:47 PM

We should be all over trouba


#2686248 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Wings3:16 on 24 September 2016 - 06:32 PM

Trouba has requested a trade... http://www.sportsnet...equested-trade/




#2686231 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 24 September 2016 - 11:55 AM

I love when our best players happen to be North American, but I'm not going to target players solely on their Nationality. I personally don't care if a player is Canadian, American, Swedish, Russian, Slovak, or white, black or purple. If they're helping the Wings win games, who gives a s***?...


Make Red Wings Great Again


#2686127 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 19 September 2016 - 05:18 PM

My ideal lineup with the guys we have:

Z-Neilsen-Vanek
Tatar-Larkin-Abby
Nyquist-AA-Mantha
Glendening-Helm-Sheahan

Jurco
Frk

Callahan or Bertuzzi as first call ups if a fourth liner gets hurt. Jurco and Frk draw in with Mantha if he struggles and/or there's an injury to a top 9 winger and either Mantha or Nyquist need to move up.


#2686164 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 20 September 2016 - 12:10 PM

Were you expecting something like this?
 
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Oh please someone photoshop this :lol:


#2685894 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by joesuffP on 14 September 2016 - 10:32 PM

Be very very happy if Vanek scores 50 points. That's best case scenario

I predict he gets sheltered by Blashill but solidifies the third line and PP

The constant change up of lines especially on the PP has to stop. Blashill has plenty of options at forward he needs to find something that will stick


#2685570 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 06 September 2016 - 10:54 AM

One forward plus Smith or younger D and picks is not gutting the roster


#2685539 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 05 September 2016 - 06:46 PM

Less than $1,205,377 Nothing

$1,205,377-to-$1,826,328 Third-round pick

$1,826,328-to-$3,652,659 Second-round pick

$3,652,659-to-$5,478,986 First and third-round picks

$5,478,986-to-$7,305,316 First, second and third-round picks

$7,305,316-to-$9,131,645 Two firsts, a second and third-round picks

$9,131,645 or greater Four first-round picks

 

 

Unless Holland attempts to offer Trouba more than $5,478,986 - then I don't see the issue here.

 

This Dman the Wings just drafted this past June was projected a 2nd rounder...In other words - he's a total crap shoot, and we will not know what he's capable of for at least 3 if not 5 years from now.

 

For a guy like Trouba who's about to enter his prime, and who could very well be a top pairing Dman - I say go ahead, and offer the kid a contract.




#2685451 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 03 September 2016 - 07:29 AM

To not be willing to give up a second line winger for a number two defenseman, given the situation we're in is ridiculous. We have a surplus of middle six forwards (way too many) and only one capable top pair defenseman. I'd much prefer Trouba (he'd be my number one target) but Fowler would be a decent option as well. The cost to get Fowler is also significantly less than the cost to get Trouba. As much as I want to pry him out of Winnipeg, I agree that there's not really a fit there, unless Cheveldayoff gets desperate. Winnipeg are looking for a defenseman coming back the other way, so unless they have any interest in a package including one of our mediocre defense prospects, I don't see it happening. Anaheim on the other hand, want a top six, scoring winger, which we have available. If Nyquist or Tatar straight up gets us Fowler, I'd do it, and again, I think you'd be foolish not to.

Number two defenseman > second line winger.

In my opinion, the points lost on either Nyquist or Tatar would be made up by the addition of Fowler and whoever fills their spot in the top 6.

Bottom line, we need help on the back end, and Holland needs to start addressing some needs...


#2685158 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 28 August 2016 - 01:49 PM

Trouba may be looking for a huge contract, but that doesn't mean he will get anything close to what he wants. Look at the contract Jones just signed with Columbus, $5.4M x 6 years. I don't see how Trouba can expect to get more than that, certainly not $7-8M over max term. I also think he would take a slight discount to play at home for his childhood team, knowing he will be a staple on the top pair for the duration of his contract. If we were able to trade for Trouba and sign him to around what DeKeyser / Jones just signed it would be huge for this team. I'd go as high as $6M, but I think even that would be a bit of an over payment as of right now.

As for cap space, yes we would have to get rid of a big contract in order to make it work, but regardless of this trade scenario, Holland should be working on freeing up cap anyway. Howard should be gone by the end of this season at the latest. There are always ways to shed cap space.


#2685147 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by MrazekFanBoy on 28 August 2016 - 05:33 AM

AA has the potential to be a franchise player did you not see what he did with no ice time playing with the scrubs on the third line