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#2558102 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by e_prime on Yesterday, 03:49 PM

I just read some random facebook comment that there is a Franzen for Hall trade in the works with the Oilers. He said look it up. I did'nt bother. That's just insane, but the Oilers management is pretty dumb...lol

 

 

 

That would be tremendous! LOL! Here we go! Franzen, Helm, Smith, Pulkkinen and rights to Backman for Hall, Petry.

See... see what you've done.  Just great... You've gotten his hopes up "chaps."  Thanks a wholef****** lot. :nono:




#2558015 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by GoWings1905 on 19 December 2014 - 10:35 PM

Yes we lost cause of Franzen.


Not exclusively because of Franzen obviously, but it would be nice if he could contribute anything offensively for a team struggling to score goals. Because what else does Franzen bring when he isn't a goal-scorer? 0 goals in 13 games and a minus 9 is atrocious. That's not streaky -- it's not competing hard enough as a player.


#2557503 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 December 2014 - 10:44 AM

Zetterberg and Datysuk will never be traded. Ever.

In order to get Hall, Detroit would have to overpay if they're just offering mainly prospects and futures. Especially since we don't really have a young proven stud defenceman.

Start with Nyquist + Mantha + Mrasek +...

 

 

Jesus. I'd almost have to start cheering for the Oilers.

 

Nobody would get that.  Think of all the high profile players that get traded, and NONE of them went for a package of a teams best young scorer and two top prospects.  None of Spezza, Kesler, Ryan, Seguin, Nash, Gaborik, Iginla, Carter, etc. etc. etc.  moved for a package like that.  None.  So why would anybody think that's what it would take to get Hall?  Because he's so much better?  He isn't. 

 

Everybody always thinks that to get a good player the Wings would have to give the world.  But the very fact that a guy is being traded means his value is diminished.  The only guys that would require Nyquist, Mantha, Mrazek TOO START are truly elite guys (Toews, Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos).  And those guys don't get traded. 




#2557330 12/16 GDT : Blue Jackets 1 at Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by gowings00 on 16 December 2014 - 10:21 PM

Jimmy is not athletic at all and that's what you need to stop guys with skill. That's why the "Jimmy is average" folks keep getting upset. He just can't stop those guys at his best but it has nothing to do with his work ethic. His Celing is just not that high. No need to get upset about it.

However, the "Jimmy is an elite goalie" folks need to have their head checked. He's not elite.


#2557096 Rank our griffins d prospects

Posted by GoWings1905 on 16 December 2014 - 02:39 PM

I'm most excited about Sproul because he has the most unique skill set of the bunch and provides something the Red Wings are sorely lacking. Ouellet has been extremely impressive while up in Detroit -- you would never have any idea he's only 21 because he is so composed and sound defensively. Not as good of a skater as DeKeyser, but Ouellet's presence kinda reminds me of DeKeyser's game. 

 

I think Ouellet and Sproul are untouchables for me going forward, but I would be fine with using the other three as trade bait. The odds of all or any of them panning out are pretty low, plus you already have Smith, DeKeyser and Ericsson around in Detroit. That being said, Ouellet and Sproul probably have the most appeal, so they are going to be the names at the top of other teams desires in a potential trade too. 

 

I like the direction the defense is heading in the next couple of years. The transition hasn't necessarily been smooth getting there, but once these guys start hitting the NHL, the Wings should be in good shape. 




#2556832 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by Andy Pred 48 on 15 December 2014 - 04:27 AM

This roster is one top D and power forward short of being a real contender in the playoffs. Not sure if we have enough assets to make the deals we need.


#2556824 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by F.Michael on 14 December 2014 - 11:55 PM

Rumor has it that Yandle and Boedker can be had.  The asking price for Yandle is rumored to be a top line guy, prospect, and second round pick.  We've got a top line forward on our third line.  No rumored asking price on Boedker.  So...

 

Franzen, Helm, Kindl (or Andersson), Pulkkinen, 2nd

 

for

 

Yandle and Boedker

 

 

Which would give us

 

Nyquist-Z-Abby

Tatar-Pav-Boedker

Jurco-Sheahan-Weiss

Miller-Glendening-Andersson (or Callahan if Andersson went the other way)

 

Thoughts?

Any trade that invloved  moving Franzen would make me smile.




#2556697 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 December 2014 - 10:00 PM

Mule hasn't even registered a shot on goal in his last two games.  

 

Taking his Christmas vacation a bit early? 

 

 

EDIT:  And I think that extends his goal drought to 12 games? 

 

(I'm not saying Franzen is the only problem.  He is not. But he started so strong and Mule going silent doesn't help).




#2556659 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by gowings00 on 13 December 2014 - 09:36 PM

 
In all fairness we owned Toronto last game everywhere but the scoresheet, Reimer was a wall. Give credit where it's due. 
 
The game against Florida could have went either way, has nothing to do with being a bad team only bad luck.
 
Tonight yeah, we don't look that great but we need a regulation loss every now and then to learn what we're doing wrong.


Not sure why people are getting angry over factual information. When did I ever say we were a bad team? I'll make this easy. Here are the FACTS: We have only two points out of possible 6 (Including tonight) from our past three games. If you look into Jan and Feb we only have 5 or 6 home games combined. We do a lot of traveling and our schedule gets tougher. Another fact: we've been healthy until recently. Odds are that will change (Abby DK an Weiss out now) as we get deeper in the season. We will be lucky to go .500 on the road so I'm betting we fall off pace and start to slide from our top spot. That's an assessment based on facts.


#2556657 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by CaliforniaWingsFan on 13 December 2014 - 09:32 PM

Franzen has been playing the worst hockey of his career as of late. He looks pathetic out there.


#2556658 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 13 December 2014 - 09:34 PM

Franzen has been playing the worst hockey of his career as of late. He looks pathetic out there.

 

Why wouldn't it be the worst hockey of his career?  He's in his mid 30's now.  

 

Not like he's going to get faster, work harder or score more at this stage.  




#2556633 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by DeGraa55 on 13 December 2014 - 09:17 PM

Jesus watching Franzen skate fall skate fall run into boards then fall and trip two guys then skate skate skate run into goal....wow that was hillarious to watch. Easily highlight of the night.


#2556554 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 13 December 2014 - 07:52 PM

Good Christ I feel like the game is being filmed from a helicopter.

We're gonna see a white bronco drive out onto the ice in a minute.


#2556524 12/13 GDT : Red Wings 1 @ Maple Leafs 4 *MOD WARNING POST 198*

Posted by dirtydangles on 13 December 2014 - 07:36 PM

can't believe how much the leafs are getting away with. kadri has gotten away with a good 1 or 2 holds. 


did helm get robbed or did he just not get it up?


Our 3rd line is now a complete non factor.

 

Pulk would look pretty good on it right about now. Just saying.

anyone would look better than the current franzen. 




#2556399 12/12 GDT : Panthers 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by DeGraa55 on 13 December 2014 - 11:04 AM

Back to the subject.
 
One positive note last night XO, is very poised and seems ready to be in the NHL.  He looked heads and tails better than Kindl and even Ericsson. Can't wait for him to be here full time!



But obviously kindl deserves to be on the team more than XO - ken holland