Posted by wings1940
on 20 November 2014 - 03:53 PM
Why are people comparing Nestrasil to Cleary? Cleary isn't the reason Nestrasil got exposed and claimed on waivers. Cleary wasn't going to be waived, nor should he have been. Cleary brings so much more than what he shows on the ice to this team, the experience and leadership he provides, on and off the ice, can't just be replaced, and certainly not by a 23 year old kid. If not Nestrasil, Jurco would have been sent down, and maybe in hindsight that would have been the better choice. But where is all of this upside that everyone sees in Nestrasil? I just don't get it. He was a body on the ice for 13 games, a big body sure, but that's about it. He could barely crack the Grand Rapids line up last season and to be honest should have never cracked our lineup this season. It would have been nice to see him clear and provide some support down in Grand Rapids this year but in reality he probably never would have cracked the Wings lineup on a full time basis, not this year, not next year, not ever. We have a ton of more skilled guys knocking on the door, he will not be missed. We even have a player that we signed in the offseason who is similar in stature but much more skilled, in Tomas Nosek. Good luck in Carolina Nestrasil, unfortunately you will probably end up down in Charlotte after 30 days.
they are being compared because cleary should have been waived. i love how people talk about what cleary does off the ice. how would any of you know. are you in the locker room? i dont hear any players talking about how great cleary is. atleast nest wasnt a liability on the ice. he played d and skated hard. cleary cant even move out there. if he is so good as a leader and locker room guy then find a position in management for him. make one up. locker room cheerleader. but the guy only costs us when on the ice and that is stupid to do, i dont care what he does in the locker room
Panthers to Vegas? Hell the attendance couldn't get any worse in Miami; (snowbirds will just flock to TB) plus that will even out the teams in each conference allowing for 3 divisions in each conference.
That is one of the biggest mistakes a GM can make, doing a deal just for the sake of doing a deal. I'm not against trading or free agent signings, but I would take what Holland has done over bad trades and bad signings any day.
Moves can be great for a team, but the key to being a good GM is making the right moves at the right time for the right players.
You want to see a team that makes moves for the sake of making moves, look at the Leafs over the last 10 years for a perfect example of that.
Unfortunately some fans need immediate gratification (not saying you, this is a general statement) and if things aren't changed immediately, or if there isn’t a major move made, they freak out.
the difference is nill traded away the old washed up guy and freed up 4.6 mil in cap space.
Back in September Matt (different Matt) said he was no longer doing articles and write-ups on prospects on Red Wings Central. At the time he said that the forums would stay up, but a week ago he posted that they were being closed as well. I didn't see anything posted here about it, HFboards had a farewell thread at the time. I do have to say it was one of the better assesment sites for Wings prospects, especially the rankings.
Some of you may be familiar with the forums there, as it was pretty laid back...well since there was little to no moderation (so quite the opposite as here). I would assume he's going to dedicate all his time to CapGeek (if you didn't know a Wings fan runs it) and everything will be pretty much frozen in time. Just thought a post here wouldn't hurt as we are losing an exclusively Red Wings blog/news/forum site.
Posted by dat's sick
on 30 October 2014 - 11:56 AM
This coming from the guy who tried to get that whole "Deisel" thing going? Aka "the worst nickname ever". You're trying to hard.
Those other three guys have earned nick-names. Mule came from Yzerman himself. You are not Yzerman, and Nestrasil is no Franzen. He's slightly better than Emmerton. Emdog - another horrible moniker btw.
I was just commenting on the user who said put Franzen in and we will be dangerous. I simply said Franzen would not make a difference when he comes back and if he isn't going to make a difference it would suck to bump a more deserving player out of the lineup. I guess the answer lies when he does come back if he can go back to what he was doing. I hope he does. He, Z and Nyquist were gelling together pretty good. I will welcome that back as long as it doesn't screw up the rest of the lines. Lets hope he returns and becomes the offense and the PP cure. I hope he is, but I still am on record saying that he won't be.
Anyhow, lets not turn this nice win into a Franzen debate! It was nice to see our guys playing together and getting some chemistry going. Still not impressed with E or K. Q looked alright.
I feel like this is to my "give me a healthy franzen post" and can't help but wonder why Im just "the user" lol