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#2683426 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by chaps80 on 18 July 2016 - 05:38 PM

Here is a goalie's career stats.

401 Wins, 50 shutouts, 2.49 GAA, .905 save pct in the regular season
In the playoffs, 74 wins, 15 shutouts, .916 save pct, 2.09 GAA.

11th all time wins, 27th all time shutouts,

2 all-star appearances, three Stanley cups, two Jennings awards.

Just looking at those stats, compared to players already in the hall, is he deserving?

If you didn't know that was Osgood, would it sway you?


Here is an article that has some career stat comparisons between Osgood, Roy, Hasek and Brodeur.



http://thehockeywrit...r-chris-osgood/


Source for stats I listed:
http://www.hockey-re.../osgooch01.html

 

That's an excellent article. It is funny that Brodeur and Roy get a pass for playing on stacked, multiple cup winning teams, but Osgood always get's accused of padding his stats because he played for the Red Wings. The guy has more playoff wins then JACQUESf****** PLANTE!!!




#2683453 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 18 July 2016 - 10:30 PM

Anyone who thinks Mantha or AA has a chance of making the opening night roster barring injuries hasn't been paying attention for the last 7 years


#2682992 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 12 July 2016 - 03:51 PM

I don't care if Datsyuk moved FARTHER away from his family or is living in the same house with them. Dude signed a contract, didn't fulfill it, and left the team in a pickle. Did Holland make the best of the situation? Probably, unless that 16 pick turns out to be an absolute stud.


#2683372 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 17 July 2016 - 08:42 PM

Helm's stone hands would kill that line's production. Of course, they'll kill any line's production.


#2683366 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by brett on 17 July 2016 - 07:01 PM

i hope thats not the lineup. IMO you HAVE to give vanek a chance. a guy who use to have great hands cannot be on a 3rd line before giving him a legitimate chance of seeing what he can do with top players. who knows he could be a 30+ goal scorer.




#2683362 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 17 July 2016 - 05:57 PM

To be fair this team needs a year of missing the playoffs for appropriate changes to be made. With the streak intact, it will be a whole lot of playing it safe to just try and make the playoffs every year.


It's just sad if this is the way the wings are thinking ... Who's to say we can't be as good or better with a few kids in the lineups over these old bottom liners?

And illitch isn't getting any younger , does he really just care about getting in the playoffs and that's it?

It's pretty f***en sad that we have to hope for injuries just so the kids who should already be playing, be inserted into the lineup


#2683316 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by romagoth on 16 July 2016 - 09:35 PM

Of the four that could potentially be waived this year (no way all 4 get waived)

Unfortunately more than one will have to be waived to get back down to GR if the Wings are over the 23 man roster limit when the season starts. I would really hate to see Sproul, Ouellet, and Frk all get claimed on waivers while Glendening/Miller/Ott/Helm/Ericsson get 15 minutes per night.

 

Ugh.




#2683332 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 17 July 2016 - 07:02 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think you got that backwards kip... If we were to waive Howard and / or Ericsson, we'd retain their entire cap hit minus the $900K or whatever it is... If you bury a bad contract, only a small fraction comes off the books, otherwise every team with these awful contracts would be sending them down to the minors, with little repercussion...


#2683253 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dabura on 15 July 2016 - 09:53 AM

Holland doesn't believe that young kids are the answer. I'm not going to say if he's right or wrong

 

It's not a black-or-white, all-or-nothing issue. Holland's making it one, but it's not one (or, it shouldn't be one).

 

The team needs more youth. It doesn't need all youth. It needs more youth. And more skill, more talent, more high-end ability. Greater possession prowess. Goal scoring. Being able to play without the puck. Young legs. Size. These are things we're lacking. These are things that an Athanasiou or a Mantha can provide, and for a dirt-cheap cap hit--and neither of these players has even come close to hitting his respective ceiling yet.

 

We're looking more and more like the Canadiens, and that's not a good thing. It's a bad thing. All this garbage about Grit and Character and Experience and Playing Without the Puck and Veteran Leadership and Knowing Your Place and Earning Your [insert whatever the hell it is you're supposed to be "earning"] -- it's all bulls***. And, accordingly, we'll be lucky to make the playoffs this season, just like 2015-16, 2014-15, 2013-14, 2012-13.




#2682948 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 12 July 2016 - 07:44 AM

 

Isn't that overstating it a little?  

 

#1 - He signed a 3 year contract with this team, tries to leave after the first year - and then puts out an article (right before the start of the playoffs) letting everyone know he's leaving after the second year to "gives back to the Russia people". I guess that wasn't much of an untimely distraction?

 

#2 - He predictably takes a step back from that stance, and says he didn't make any decision yet (although it was obvious he did) - but if he does leave, it's actually because he wants to see his daughter more... Because who could argue with that?

 

#3 - He ultimately (to no surprise) leaves, and costs us Jacob Chychrun.

 

#4 - He then signs with the best team in the KHL, which is a 30 hour drive from his daughter.

 

If any other long term Red Wing handled their departure worse than he did, please let me know. If not, then no - I don't think I'm overstating a little.




#2682910 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by Euro_Twins on 11 July 2016 - 04:20 PM

Holland trading the 16th pick and the Defense man that they desperately need were traded for one single year of relief of Dats contract should wake the rest of them up.  The Jets got a great defense man with our 16th pick.  Holland is the worst part of the Detroit organization, has delayed their rebuild and continues to do so.


Arizona jets?


#2682784 Wings Sign G Jared Coreau

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 10 July 2016 - 10:07 AM

Ya, I'm not sure why Holland thinks that Jimmy is so valuable that he won't trade him and he feels he'll get snagged off the expansion wire. I wouldn't be surprised if he traded Mrazek just so he could protect Jimmy.

 

Or.... more likely no one wants Jimmy?




#2682859 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by TheXym on 10 July 2016 - 07:40 PM

I vaguely remember that article. Thanks for digging it up.


#2682831 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by shocky2002 on 10 July 2016 - 02:32 PM

If you won't put 13/40 up because they never did anything of significance without Lidstrom, then let's take Yzerman's jersey off the rafters. Dude was a playoff choke artist before Feds and Lidstrom reached their primes. He was also the 3rd wheel for all 3 cups.

 

If you're only putting up generational talents, then only Lidstrom and Howe belong in there. Yzerman is not one.




#2682615 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by DRW Dominance on 08 July 2016 - 11:34 AM

i know this isn't huge news to us fans....something was just put out with a team of the worst contracts in the league

 

howard

ericcson

helm

 

all on it....i didn't realize how long ericcson's contract actually was