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#2685158 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on Today, 01:49 PM

Trouba may be looking for a huge contract, but that doesn't mean he will get anything close to what he wants. Look at the contract Jones just signed with Columbus, $5.4M x 6 years. I don't see how Trouba can expect to get more than that, certainly not $7-8M over max term. I also think he would take a slight discount to play at home for his childhood team, knowing he will be a staple on the top pair for the duration of his contract. If we were able to trade for Trouba and sign him to around what DeKeyser / Jones just signed it would be huge for this team. I'd go as high as $6M, but I think even that would be a bit of an over payment as of right now.

As for cap space, yes we would have to get rid of a big contract in order to make it work, but regardless of this trade scenario, Holland should be working on freeing up cap anyway. Howard should be gone by the end of this season at the latest. There are always ways to shed cap space.


#2685147 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by MrazekFanBoy on Today, 05:33 AM

AA has the potential to be a franchise player did you not see what he did with no ice time playing with the scrubs on the third line


#2685135 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on Yesterday, 02:32 PM

Trouba needs to come home to Michigan.




#2684408 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by NerveDamage on 04 August 2016 - 09:44 AM

Interesting read on possible trades for a D

http://thehockeywrit...defensive-help/




#2684405 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by MrazekFanBoy on 03 August 2016 - 11:47 PM

For the price we had to pay we should've let him walk


#2684176 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by NerveDamage on 28 July 2016 - 10:25 PM

The OG Don was Salming. He got "traded" to Detroit to lay the ground work and open the way for the rest...

he looks more like a Bond Villain...

https://www.thestar.....letterbox.jpeg




#2683426 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by chaps80 on 18 July 2016 - 05:38 PM

Here is a goalie's career stats.

401 Wins, 50 shutouts, 2.49 GAA, .905 save pct in the regular season
In the playoffs, 74 wins, 15 shutouts, .916 save pct, 2.09 GAA.

11th all time wins, 27th all time shutouts,

2 all-star appearances, three Stanley cups, two Jennings awards.

Just looking at those stats, compared to players already in the hall, is he deserving?

If you didn't know that was Osgood, would it sway you?


Here is an article that has some career stat comparisons between Osgood, Roy, Hasek and Brodeur.



http://thehockeywrit...r-chris-osgood/


Source for stats I listed:
http://www.hockey-re.../osgooch01.html

 

That's an excellent article. It is funny that Brodeur and Roy get a pass for playing on stacked, multiple cup winning teams, but Osgood always get's accused of padding his stats because he played for the Red Wings. The guy has more playoff wins then JACQUESf****** PLANTE!!!




#2683453 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 18 July 2016 - 10:30 PM

Anyone who thinks Mantha or AA has a chance of making the opening night roster barring injuries hasn't been paying attention for the last 7 years


#2682992 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 12 July 2016 - 03:51 PM

I don't care if Datsyuk moved FARTHER away from his family or is living in the same house with them. Dude signed a contract, didn't fulfill it, and left the team in a pickle. Did Holland make the best of the situation? Probably, unless that 16 pick turns out to be an absolute stud.


#2683372 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 17 July 2016 - 08:42 PM

Helm's stone hands would kill that line's production. Of course, they'll kill any line's production.


#2683366 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by brett on 17 July 2016 - 07:01 PM

i hope thats not the lineup. IMO you HAVE to give vanek a chance. a guy who use to have great hands cannot be on a 3rd line before giving him a legitimate chance of seeing what he can do with top players. who knows he could be a 30+ goal scorer.




#2683362 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 17 July 2016 - 05:57 PM

To be fair this team needs a year of missing the playoffs for appropriate changes to be made. With the streak intact, it will be a whole lot of playing it safe to just try and make the playoffs every year.


It's just sad if this is the way the wings are thinking ... Who's to say we can't be as good or better with a few kids in the lineups over these old bottom liners?

And illitch isn't getting any younger , does he really just care about getting in the playoffs and that's it?

It's pretty f***en sad that we have to hope for injuries just so the kids who should already be playing, be inserted into the lineup


#2683316 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by romagoth on 16 July 2016 - 09:35 PM

Of the four that could potentially be waived this year (no way all 4 get waived)

Unfortunately more than one will have to be waived to get back down to GR if the Wings are over the 23 man roster limit when the season starts. I would really hate to see Sproul, Ouellet, and Frk all get claimed on waivers while Glendening/Miller/Ott/Helm/Ericsson get 15 minutes per night.

 

Ugh.




#2683332 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 17 July 2016 - 07:02 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think you got that backwards kip... If we were to waive Howard and / or Ericsson, we'd retain their entire cap hit minus the $900K or whatever it is... If you bury a bad contract, only a small fraction comes off the books, otherwise every team with these awful contracts would be sending them down to the minors, with little repercussion...


#2683253 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dabura on 15 July 2016 - 09:53 AM

Holland doesn't believe that young kids are the answer. I'm not going to say if he's right or wrong

 

It's not a black-or-white, all-or-nothing issue. Holland's making it one, but it's not one (or, it shouldn't be one).

 

The team needs more youth. It doesn't need all youth. It needs more youth. And more skill, more talent, more high-end ability. Greater possession prowess. Goal scoring. Being able to play without the puck. Young legs. Size. These are things we're lacking. These are things that an Athanasiou or a Mantha can provide, and for a dirt-cheap cap hit--and neither of these players has even come close to hitting his respective ceiling yet.

 

We're looking more and more like the Canadiens, and that's not a good thing. It's a bad thing. All this garbage about Grit and Character and Experience and Playing Without the Puck and Veteran Leadership and Knowing Your Place and Earning Your [insert whatever the hell it is you're supposed to be "earning"] -- it's all bulls***. And, accordingly, we'll be lucky to make the playoffs this season, just like 2015-16, 2014-15, 2013-14, 2012-13.