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#2577247 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Dabura on Today, 10:14 AM

I'm ok with standing pat. If I'm being honest, I don't think we're one piece away from winning a Cup. Holland's spent the past few years building up an army of young, cost-controlled studs, and that's the only reason we're as good as we are right now. Let's see if Jurco, Pulkkinen, et al. can break out next season. We should be a better team next season, even without any big adds.




#2577001 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by Dabura on Yesterday, 09:38 PM

Pulkinen probably won't be in the playoff lineup either unless he really starts contributing. That's fine. He needs more time to get used to the NHL.

 

I dunno, Pulkkinen's matched Jurco's goal total (2) in far fewer games, and he's just getting warmed up. Cole is, at this time, basically a better Jurco (big, physical goal-scorer with good wheels). Pulkkinen gives us a dimension that no one else does.




#2576997 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by Dabura on Yesterday, 09:33 PM

This is a great add.




#2573888 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Dabura on 23 February 2015 - 09:51 PM

http://www.thescore....nhl/news/706604

 

do it do it do it do it do it




#2572649 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Dabura on 20 February 2015 - 03:39 PM

I like Trevor Daley, in the context of our blue line. With the emergence of Klingberg (who, no, Nill won't even consider moving), maybe he could be had.




#2572378 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Dabura on 19 February 2015 - 12:08 AM

We shall see... But I'm with Holland, not wanting to move too many pieces for one player. Yandle is a great player but is he worth what it would take to get him here? I don't think so...

 

I mean, this is all pretty much moot. We're not getting Yandle, period. So, in that sense, you're absolutely right. And even if Holland is secretly hoping to acquire him, it'd probably cost more than Pulkkinen + [who cares]/Smith + 1st. I don't move Nyquist or Tatar for him, probably not Mantha or Larkin either. I do think Maloney kind of has to move Yandle, so maybe he can't afford to be too picky. But, for the most part, he's in a position of strength. He's going to get at least one offer that's better than the best offer I'd be willing to put forward.




#2571553 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Dabura on 17 February 2015 - 06:59 PM

Regardless, there is little to no chance Yandle is traded at all, let alone to the Wings...

 

Why wouldn't Don Maloney trade Yandle? The Coyotes are tanking, and Yandle - arguably their biggest trade chip - can become a UFA next summer. So, if Maloney doesn't trade Yandle, he's almost certainly going to lose him for nothing next summer. So, Maloney has to trade Yandle. Now, does it have to be done this season? No, it can wait. But which Yandle fetches the bigger return: the one who's in the penultimate year of his contract, or the one who's in the final year of his contract? Probably the former.

 

As for our chances - "Why not us?" We're not in the same division or even the same conference, and I have to think Pulkkinen - the AHL's leading scorer and, arguably, its most valuable player - is as desirable as virtually any other "A-level prospect."




#2571482 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Dabura on 17 February 2015 - 12:18 PM

No, I'm not against Yandle as a player at all... Point out one time when I said I don't like Yandle as a player... I've never said it

 

I win!




#2571427 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Dabura on 17 February 2015 - 10:26 AM

OK, time for some militant pro-trade rhetoric.

 

Anyone who doesn't want Keith Yandle is wrong. If it's the asking price, A-level prospect + B-level prospect + 1st = Pulkkinen + [who cares] + 1st. If we have to outbid someone, [who cares] becomes Smith.

 

This line that if we want to bring in a high-end player it'll cost us Mantha/Larkin and/or Nyquist/Tatar - it's a crock. Maybe those are the names that GMs start with, but that's how you negotiate - you start high and, ultimately, compromise. I'm starting to wonder if Ken Holland knows how to negotiate. Maybe he just says, "Sorry, no can do," as soon as he hears "Mantha" and moves on to his next set of tires, sort of like a robot.

 

Chris Chelios is on montreal radio and says they like marchenko a lot and he looks to be the right handed defensemen they need and said unless something big comes up don't expect much from detroit

 

The front office will do and say anything if it means they don't have to make a trade. Marchenko is not The Right-Handed Defenseman We Need, he's a right-handed defenseman who's better than Kindl and who the PR machine can prop up as the reason why we don't need to make a trade. (I'm not saying trade him. I'm just saying, he doesn't bring us closer to a Cup this season or next season.) Marchenko's gonna make all the difference in the world for this team, with his third-pairing responsiblities and sheer lack of offensive production. Rest assured, Pavel, your last two or three years as a Red Wing will not be wasted!

 

(I'm jaded. Can you tell?)




#2571411 2/16 GDT : Montreal Canadiens 2 at Red Wings 0

Posted by Dabura on 17 February 2015 - 02:05 AM

I get the pairings thing, but if we need a real impact player, won't he just play with Smith too? Mike needs to get over Kronwall-Ericsson, that big dope has cost us a lot of points this year, not just tonight. He's best served as a 4/5. I honestly don't think Holland will make a move, but Petry would be a good fit. I realize being the best of a bad bunch isn't the most glowing endorsement, but I see the guy a lot being out west and he's under appreciated to say the least. MacTavish is a guy who thinks Justin Schultz could win a Norris afterall :lol: We're probably arguing over nothing though, because the pairs going into the playoffs are probably going to be the same as tonight give or take an Xavier Oullet sighting.

 

Sorry, I was a bit harsh.

 

Jeff Petry is criminally underappreciated, and he might be a good fit. My problem is that I feel he'd be "more of the same." We need a great passer, he's not a great passer. We need point production, he's not a point producer. We need, ideally, someone who's going to add another dimension to our D corps. So, if it were between Petry and, say, Zidlicky, I'd probably choose the latter. Why? Because Zidlicky is an excellent passer, an excellent shooter, an excellent quarterback, and a point producer. He's not Rafalski, but he's the same kind of thing.




#2571390 2/16 GDT : Montreal Canadiens 2 at Red Wings 0

Posted by Dabura on 16 February 2015 - 11:08 PM

Every team in a playoff position right now scores more le buts than the Habs. If Price explodes like he did last year, they're done.

If tonight's game was called like an average game, Wings win.

Lot's of "ifs" I know.

 

All I'm saying is we've had a number of cracks at the Lightning and Canadiens and we haven't done much winning in those games. And if we look to recent playoff runs...couldn't score against Nashville, couldn't score against Chicago (when Chicago woke up), couldn't score against Boston, and now we're pretty harmless at even strength this season. I love Nyquist and Tatar, and the Euro Twins are the Euro Twins, but our scoring depth - like our blue line depth - isn't where it needs to be if we want to make a serious push in the playoffs. Even if we were able to get past the Lightning or Price in the first round, we'd have three more rounds to go. We haven't done very well against the top Eastern teams (Metro included), so this is all pretty concerning.




#2571030 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Dabura on 15 February 2015 - 09:25 PM

I think Dickie is right: Petry probably plays on our third pairing. I doubt Babcock puts him with Kronwall, and DeKeyser-Quincey has been our steadiest pairing. So...Marchenko out, Petry in? The Bolts are shaking in their boots.




#2571029 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Dabura on 15 February 2015 - 09:14 PM

If anything , we see a Stuart style trade. That would be huge for us though. 

 

One of smith, ericsson, kindl has got to be removed from this team and upgraded for a legit defender

 

Ericsson has a  NMC if i am not mistaken, which sucks for us

 

Ericsson is every bit as good as Stuart was back then. Stuart was an unremarkable #4 defenseman who got to slot behind a first pairing of Lidstrom-Rafalski. We don't have a Lidstrom or a Rafalski, let alone both, so Ericsson is tasked with being our #2 defenseman, shutting down the opposition's best players every single night. Stuart never had to shoulder that kind of responsibility.

 

We need more depth on our blue line. I don't mean we need to add a depth defenseman. What I mean is we need a high-end player who can immediately slot in as our #2 or #3 and, in so doing, bump one or two of our current top-four defensemen down the depth chart.




#2570999 Official 2015 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Dabura on 15 February 2015 - 05:25 PM

I really think Kenny will do something out the ordinary this year

 

We say that every year.




#2570055 2/11 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Penguins 4

Posted by Dabura on 11 February 2015 - 08:51 PM

I'm hoping that period was a result of the long break, and that we got the rust off the tank.

 

The Pens have been off since Saturday, same as us.

 

I am not ok with this team standing pat at the trade deadline.