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#2488702 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 02 March 2014 - 10:08 PM

I'd like to add: our first-round pick should be in play. Or, if not in play, then at least "possibly available." If what I'm hearing is true and Kenny's categorically refusing to even consider moving our 1st...that's immensely stupid.

 

We're not the Sabres. We're not rebuilding. We're retooling (there's a difference), and we're doing so with a relatively deep prospect pool which has already given us Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, and Jurco. And DeKeyser would've gone in the first round had he been drafted, so he's basically a free first-round pick.




#2488683 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 02 March 2014 - 08:59 PM

There will always be players of their caliber available at the trade deadline, and I wouldn't be opposed to trading prospects to get them if I thought it would make us legitimate contenders for the cup, but this year I don't think there is any moves available that put us in that category given our injury situation

 

No offense, Flashy, because you're a good dude who makes kickass GDTs - but I'm an immature, impatient, impetuous Wings fan and I grow weary of "Let's wait until next season, because..." There will always be high-quality players available at the deadline, true - but there will also always be reasons, excuses, rationalizations as to why we shouldn't do anything.

 

We have to improve significantly if we want to win one more Cup with Datsyuk and Zetterberg. I'm high on our young guns and Griffins, but Ouellet, Sproul, Pulkkinen, Jarnkrok - they're all at least one more season away. And even then, they'll only be rookies. (Brendan Smith is a reminder that being a very good defenseman in the NHL is very, very, very hard.) Meanwhile, our core will be that much older and probably less effective.

 

Free agency sucks. We know the script: most of the top guys will re-sign, and the ones who don't will be looking to Get Paid and therefore won't be coming to Motown, because we're generally averse to bidding wars these days. We can't realistically expect a Daniel Alfredsson to fall into our collective lap every summer. (Collective Lap. Add that to the band name list.) Even Weiss was sort of a stroke of luck, as he was very keen on becoming a Wing. And, given Weiss's monumental struggles, I fear Kenny's never going to take a chance on a high-end free agent again.

 

The only other option? Trade.

 

I feel like maybe the stars are aligning for us here on the trade front. The cap room we'd need? Suddenly we have it. The attractive young roster players we'd need? Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco. Potentially high (and therefore quite valuable) first-round pick? Yep. And, of course, a wealth of promising prospects. (In Mantha - who may be having his first and last this-kid-is-just-plain-better-than-everyone-else season - we have, for the first time in a long time, a prospect that any and every GM in the league would probably love to have.)

 

I'm not saying we should sell the farm, our future.

I'm not saying we should be in on high-priced rentals like Vanek.

I'm not saying we're a contender who just needs one big trade to put us over the top.

I'm not saying we absolutely must make a big trade.

 

I'm saying...Why not now? Why not do something this season?

 

I feel we're in a position to make a significant move. I don't know that such a move is there to be made, but I've always believed that the possibilities are never limited to the rumors. Nearly any player can be had for the right price; a smart, creative, wily GM might make things happen. Easy for me to say, of course. But it's also easy to do nothing.

 

/rant




#2488491 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 02 March 2014 - 05:15 AM

It's amazing how wrong you are.

 

This team is currently 7th in goals allowed

 

They are 12th in goals scored. 

 

This team is in bad need of finishers, the defense while not spectacular hasn't been as bad as many people think it is.

 

We have a solid top six and an electric third line, even with some key forwards injured. We don't have a legitimate top four, even with a fully healthy D corps. Given that defense wins championships (see: Team Canada), we should be looking to bolster our blue line. Take care of the defense and the offense should take care of itself. (Indeed, the main reason why our offense has been sagging is that our blue line isn't driving and directing the attack like it used to, when we had an actual top four with not one but three all-star offensive defensemen playing monster minutes.)




#2488490 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 02 March 2014 - 04:36 AM

You'd also have to think Alfie will probably hang it up.

 

I'm assuming he'll be back. He addressed the question a few days ago and basically said he's leaning that way, another season with the Wings.




#2488250 Edler-Kesler Vs. Ehrhoff-Stewart

Posted by Dabura on 01 March 2014 - 09:34 AM

My concern is who we'd be we giving up :scared: .  Not a fan of Kesler :nono:

 

I have to think Edler-Kesler (Edsler?) would cost a king's ransom. The Canucks are one point out of the playoffs (last I checked), and Gillis has to be thinking about his legacy...and the possibility of redemption.

 

That's largely why I'd prefer Ehrhoff-Stewart (Ehrwart? Stewhoff?) - they'd almost certainly come cheaper, even though it'd be intradivision. Maybe a 1st, two prospects, and a top-six forward?




#2488248 Edler-Kesler Vs. Ehrhoff-Stewart

Posted by Dabura on 01 March 2014 - 09:11 AM

So. We're rumored to be interested in Edler and Kesler, possibly as a package deal. As far as I know, we haven't been linked to Ehrhoff or Stewart - but, as I've blabbered on about in the deadline thread, I think there may be the potential for a package deal, as Ehrhoff's estimated trade value appears to be a 1st, a prospect, and a young roster defenseman with upside, or any two of those.

 

My question is, Which would you prefer - the two Canucks or the two Sabres? I guess for the sake of discussion we should factor in actual real-world considerations, e.g. cost.




#2488238 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 01 March 2014 - 08:16 AM

To people saying Ehrhoff isn't what we need: come off it.

 

We need a top-four defenseman who can move the puck, QB the PP, drive the offense, put up points. Preferably a veteran (we have plenty of young talent), and, though we're looking for an o-minded guy, he needs to be good in his zone. Basically: a younger, lesser Kronwall. That's Ehrhoff. He and DeKeyser would be the second pairing, which would do wonders for him, as he's used to facing the opposition's top guns every shift of every game. Further, a top four of Kronwall-Ericsson and Ehrhoff-DeKeyser would allow for a solid third pairing for years to come. It'd be continuous war for those two spots, which would, in theory, bring out the best in Smith, Quincey (?), Lashoff, Kindl, Marchenko, Almqvist, Ouellet, Sproul. (One or two or three of those would ultimately have to be traded, of course). The only issue with Ehrhoff is his contract. Personally, I don't think it's all that terrible.

 

As for Stewart - self-explanatory. Big, mean, RH power forward in his prime. I feel like people are probably making a bit too much of the rumors about him clashing with Hitchcock. As I've said before, everyone clashes with Hitchcock sooner or later. I mean, sure, he may have some maturity issues or whatever, and Babcock probably isn't the greatest coach of young talent. But it's well known that power forwards tend to have special development curves which can be frustrating, but which - you hope - is ultimately worth it. For us, a team sorely lacking in pretty much everything Stewart would bring to the table...I think it'd be worth it. At the right price.

 

Ehrhoff-Stewart in 2014! Change we can believe in!




#2488234 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 01 March 2014 - 07:49 AM

I just woke up. Haven't checked the latest. Still *thumbs up* on Ehrhoff and/or Stewart.




#2488031 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 28 February 2014 - 08:30 PM

I keep hearing/reading that Ehrhoff might go for a 1st and a prospect and a young roster defenseman with upside, or any two of those. So, hey, maybe an Ehrhoff-Stewart package isn't totally out of the question for us.




#2488002 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 28 February 2014 - 07:32 PM

Maybe we're in on this. Maybe we get Ehrhoff and Stewart.

 

Maybe the moon landing was a hoax.




#2487989 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 28 February 2014 - 07:16 PM

The Blues are going to be an absolute nightmare to play against in the playoffs. Stewart's a pretty big loss, though. Unless they're gonna be jerkoffs and somehow acquire Callahan, in which case the league should fine them for ruining the deadline.

 

Kinda sucks for Stewart and Halak, no?




#2487962 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 28 February 2014 - 06:39 PM

Actually, the really nice thing about Ehrhoff is that he can play an effective shutdown game if need be.


Yes priority should be offensive D and a scoring Forward. 

 

I know I'm in the minority on this, but...I wouldn't mind Byfuglien. He could be that offensive defenseman or that scoring forward. At the very least, he'd help our PP. He'd have to come at a reasonable price, of course.




#2487933 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 28 February 2014 - 05:40 PM

Is that proper grammar? Intrigues me? Holy hell I'm tired.




#2487818 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 28 February 2014 - 01:26 PM

Lol internet ur right its wishful thinking but it was a terrible signing and its mostly his groin I think so time should heal it well and to package him with quincy cleary or maybe bert would be a W for wings (Bert welcomed back in Vancouver after the Moore disaster and suspension?)

 

It wasn't a terrible signing. He got hurt right out of the gate.




#2487758 Why did Franzen get 10 min game misconduct?

Posted by Dabura on 28 February 2014 - 09:58 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if it was mostly for Franzen's protection. He's scored three goals, it's a blowout, he's probably running his mouth, he's coming off a concussion, and Chris Neil obviously wants a piece of him.