I like to think that Kenny literally kicks tires. Like, he has this small collection of tires that he keeps somewhere in his office, and every day he kicks them. Then he wonders why no one is calling, so he tries kicking them again, this time with the other foot. You get the idea.
I'd be all for pursuing Vanek as a UFA, but trading for him this year is hardly feasible. Somehow I doubt they'd take Bert, Sammy, & Cleary for him, and anything else creates another hole and/or makes an already bad cap situation far worse. All for someone who may not stick around after this season.
And for the people dreaming about Faulk... I can't see why Carolina would even entertain the thought of trading him for anything less than eye-popping overpayment, except maybe straight up for Marc Staal.
No, I'm with you, trading for Vanek would be impossible and make no sense. When I say he'd be a good add, I mean as a UFA.
If I have to choose someone, Jeff Blashill. He's like Mike Babcock's hipper, younger brother. Same sensibilities, exact same voice, teaches the same basic systems in Grand Rapids, is obviously familiar with the youth.
Players have already decided, that they don't want their families, girlfriends there that speaks volume to the amount of fear they and a lot of fans are having.
I dunno that it shows they're trembling with fear, just, well..."Honey? You and the kids might die. So you should probably stay home." From a you-don't-want-your-family-to-die perspective, it's a no-brainer. And, less nobly, you'd rather not have concerns about your family's safety in the back (or front) of your mind while competing for Olympic Gold. And, honestly, families can be kind of annoying.
Why couldn't we trade Franzen, Jurco and a mid round pick for Vanek? Good big body established scorer (when he plays) in Franzen and a promising young prospect with lots of potential? If I'm off base or uninformed just tell me because I'm new here. Just a thought
If you're talking about this season, there's two big issues: 1) he's on an expiring contract, so he'd be a rental (would probably bolt for a different team in the offseason. And I doubt we win the Cup while he's here), and 2) we'd have to clear a fair amount of cap space (more than what Franzen and Jurco would free up). Also: Franzen's going to be very hard to move because of his contract, age, and health concerns, while Jurco is potentially a Hossa-level star in the making, i.e. he's not getting moved.
Oh yeah, and Snow probably wouldn't make that deal. At the very least, that pick would have to be our first-rounder.
Moulson was a product of having great chemistry with Tavares
Actually, not necessarily. He showed he could score while playing with pretty much anyone on the Isles. (Babs isn't the only one who put likes putting his lines in a blender.) And, what I really like about him - he can score in a variety of ways. It's not like he's always tipping pucks in or on the back door waiting for some superstar's patented pass.
You don't score thirty goals three seasons in a row just because you have great chemistry with someone. IMHO. (OK, fine, maybe that's a little dishonest. But I've watched Moulson play. I think he's a goal scorer, with or without Tavares.)
And there's really nothing wrong with Ott. You hate him, but that's exactly the point. He's a "super-pest." He'd automatically be the most gritty, physical player on our team, by a very wide margin. He'd make us harder to play against.
Just seeing Cleary, Samuelsson, Bertuzzi, and Cleary leave will open plenty of cap space. They 13 forwards and 6 7 who are either signed or RFAs going into next year who are not waiver eligible. That doesn't include Jurco or Glendening. Sheahan will be on the roster. Callahan will almost certainly be on the roster. Ferraro has an outside chance depending on what else they do. Glendening has almost no chance because he's waiver eligible. Jurco's status will depend on what they do in free agency. Almquist is almost certainly gone. They can sign one free agent forward or make a trade to bring one in, and roll with:
Callahan, Ferraro reserves
Kindl-Marchenko or another rookie
I'd be happy with that roster. Arrange them however you want.
You'd put Sheahan on the wing? I'd considered this. Andersson wouldn't have to be cheated out of a spot.
To be clear, I'm not saying I have any reason to believe that Thomas Vanek wants to be a Detroit Red Wing. I just think it'd be a good fit, for both sides. For us, again, he's a big-bodied, right-handed natural goal-scoring winger who might be able to pot 40+ playing on Datsyuk's wing. And, at 30 years old, he's still pretty young. (And he's Euro-born!) That's about as close to ideal as it's gonna get for us in our never-ending search for that Big Scoring Winger - and he wouldn't even cost any assets, just a lot of coin and a lot of term. So, I imagine Kenny will pursue him pretty fiercely, provided there's anything to pursue (i.e. provided he doesn't say, "Thanks, but I know where I'm going, and it's Minnesota. Yes, I'm absolutely sure. No, I won't reconsider. Please let go of my arm, you're cutting off my circulation.")
From Vanek's perspective, well, let's be honest: we don't really know what he wants. All we really know is that he doesn't want to be part of a full-on rebuild of one of the worst teams in the salary cap era. That doesn't necessarily mean he wants to be a Penguin (though my gut says that's were he'll end up, somehow, some way). And, true enough, it doesn't necessarily mean he has any interest in joining the best-run organization in hockey, maybe in all of sports (that's the Wings, ftr).
So: Why, then, did I say the Wings would be a good fit for him? Because it's true. He's a supremely gifted goal-scorer, we're loaded with supremely gifted playmakers. (He could play on any of our top three lines and he'd have at least one linemate who could get him to 35 goals.) He's supremely skilled with the puck, we play - or would like to play - a rare and proven brand of skill-driven, possession-centric (or skill-centric, possession-driven) hockey. He wants to play on a contender, we're about a Vanek and a solid defenseman away from cutthroat Cup contention, bolstered by one of the better prospect pools in the league.
We have arguably the best head coach in the league; arguably the best GM in the league, arguably the best ownership in the league, arguably the best scouting and player development guys in the league; and even one of the best medical/training teams in the league. And it's a great hockey market without being a fishbowl. And it's a storied O6 franchise. And we're getting a new arena.
(I realize what I've just done is kinda sleazy and shameless. I wrote a big long novel in the Next Season thread about why we're semi-doomed, and now I'm turning around and making essentially the opposite argument. AND I REGRET NOTHING!)
But I think maybe most of all it's his personality/attitude/character/demeanor. I actually met him once, and I've a friend who's met him a few times. It's easy for a Wingnut to say this, but, really: he strikes me as the classic Red Wing. Polite, unassuming, even-keeled, yet...clearly very special.
Pipe dream? Yeah. But not the utterly impossible kind. And even the utterly impossible is sometimes possible. (See: Alfredsson, Daniel.)
So, Vanek is My Guy this summer (assuming Dan Girardi decides to be a bum and re-sign). Do we need a Dan Boyle more than we need a Thomas Vanek? Yes, and I've even argued as much. But, like I said, I don't see any of the top free agent options changing teams. I mean, maybe one or two, but that's it. So, the thinking would be: sign Vanek and decisively address the need for a right-handed first-line winger while leaving the D issue up in the air, or solve neither problem.