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I honestly think it was just a case of him needing a change of scenery. For some reason or another, he just didn't thrive in Detroit. He's meshed well in Philly and for that I say good for him.

No one should be surprised at what Leino is doing in Philly. He has good offensive instincts and is a good player. I remember only a couple of people sticking up for him around here, and now look at all of you. All it took was him playing with good players. Also, I think Philly's toughness has rubbed off on him and he digs a lot more now. Leino is a good fit for the Flyers. Kenny made the right choice at the time, considering the circumstances. I just can't see why he signed Jason Williams, it was a bad signing. Now, since Kenny says he wants a gritty fourth liner, that means that he's going to pick up a 35+ year old to fill that role. FYI...the wings still have never won a cup without some type of enforcer on the team. Whether, it's a coincidence or not is a different story, but that's another debate.

I got a say, big mistake if they make him the highest paid GM in the league. I love guy and he did great things for the Canadian team, however in the Olympics he doesn't have to worry about competing offers, and players asking for more money or handing out NMCs. Good luck Stevie, this is only a training stint until you come back to Det!

Leino played on a line with Filppula and with other fairly good players for awhile. No dice. He was lazy and he generally sucked. Holland wouldn't have traded him otherwise; as you may have noticed, loyalty is a keystone of this franchise, and so players very rarely get traded unless there's something genuinely wrong with how they're playing. We needed the cap space and Leino wasn't willing to put forth his all, and so he's gone. Quincey had every chance to prove himself. He got time in the regular season and he played a bunch of games in the '07 playoffs. He didn't even show a glimmer of the offensive talent he has exhibited over the past two seasons. Meech, on the other hand, played quite well when he was thrust into essentially a #1 defense slot during the injury spell in '08. That's why Meech stayed and Quincey did not. What you're doing here is bitching. You are making complaints that have absolutely no basis in reality. You are engaging in a course of egregious hindsight criticism. What's your problem?

Note to UFA players who want rasies...... Move on and Move out... If it's true Holmer's agent said that, then adios! Hudler? Trade him at the draft in order to secure Dylan McIlrath. Would also like to see Holland convince Rafalski to waive his NTC.. Holmer ($1.5) / Datsyuk ($6.7) / Franzen ($3.955) Bertuzzi ($1.5) / Zett ($6.083) / Filppula ($3.0) Abdelkader ($0.900) / Cleary ($2.800) / Draper ($1.583) Darren Helm ($0.750) / Miller ($0.600) / UFA ($?.???) Eaves ($0.550)Ritola (if he can make the team, just because he is out of options doesn't guarantee him a spot) Lidstrom ($4.5M) / Rafalski ($6.0) Stuart ($3.75) / Kronwall ($3.0) Ericsson ($0.900) / UFA ($?.???) Kindl ($0.883) Howard ($.717) / Osgood ($1.417) Total $51.088 Total - $6.612 avail to better this team.... This defense was absolutely horrible last season, if all Holland does is re-sign the same and replace Lebda/Meech with Kindl, we're in for a CRAPPY season!!!! Since this is not a what would you do thread, I won't get into that, but this is the roster I would like to see, while using the available $6.6M to get a forward and defender to better this club... Oh, and, Fire McCrimmon.....PLEASE! edit: Looking at Ritola/Eaves, you could sign Eaves to a similar contract and who ever makes the team, waive the other, salary pretty much a wash...

I have a hard time believing the 'Hawks wont win, but either way - I'm rooting for them. It's not like they went through us to get there. They're an exciting young team with a lot of talent and Chicago has suffered through a lot of garbage seasons. I know a lot of people hate them as our rivals, but it's been so long since they were relevant to us that I don't have that rivalry hate. Plus, it's not like they went through us to get there. Oh, and there is no one in the league I hate more than Pronger. So there's that.

Much in the same way that people around here can't fathom rooting for the 'Hawks, I feel the same way about the Flyers. I like Danny Briere, but that's where it ends. They're the Flyers. And if that weren't bad enough, they add Pronger. Effin' a.

How long into the season was Filppula injured? Six weeks? How many goals did Leino score during the time that that line was together? Get back to me with that number. Offseason blunders, ya. Right. Let's start with Holland's inability to violate the salary cap. Clearly that's a big problem of his. Next let's move on to Samuelsson. He was signed early by the Canucks; Holland was trying to sign Hudler, as Hudler was an RFA, and so there was no chance to offer big money to Samuelsson off the bat. Signing Hossa would have required trading Filppula. Holland wasn't willing to do this. As for Hudler, are you serious? You're really? blaming Holland for failing to retain Hudler? Hudler jumped ship for the $5m per year, tax free, that he was offered by Moscow Dynamo. Did I mention that you were irrationally bitching? I'll mention the "irrational bitching" again. Oh, and you're right, because players never come to the Wings as busts and end up being successful.

Why? Because they claimed Miller off waivers because we had so many injuries. Once Franzen came back we had too many players and were over the cap so someone had to go. Miller had earned himself a roster spot with his play and Leino hadn't, so Ville was traded. If Leino had played for Detroit this season like he has played for Philly in the playoffs maybe he wouldn't have been traded. Plus I don't think its fair to pin this on Holland, its pretty clear that Babcock never liked him.

Slap him in the ass and call him jimmeh

Leino and the Underdog Flyers for sure. I don't know if you saw Leighton interviewed after the game a real moment, the guys got heart been on waivers five times; it be nice if he could hold back the Hawks lethal attack.

Part of me wants Chicago to win just so we don't have to keep hearing about your dad every other post... nah, GO FLYERS!

Their fans have booed the US National Anthem one too many times. I can't root for them, as much as I hate Pronger and the Flyers.

I agree with the OP, I can't stand the habs. Maybe its because of where i'm from, but everyone is just hopping on the canadiens band wagon and it gets increasingly annoying The main reason I don't like their team is the fans, any team that boos any national anthem is way too disrespectful in my books. Wasn't it also in Montreal where the banana was thrown onto the ice?

"Hey! This thread is about me guys! Not Finnish players! You all better focus or I'm going to cluck until the wee hours of the morning!!!"

As long as it is not Chicago im satisfied.

Why would I want Montreal to win? Because they've got the Michigan connection: Mike Cammalleri, Max Pacioretty and Aaron Palushaj in the wings

You know what else would slow the Flyers down? Getting more than one shot on goal per period

MY COUNTRY'S BETTER THAN YOUR COUNTRY!!! NANNY NANNY POO POO!!! Sorry, I'm not good at this trash talking bit. I'm also not good at trying to make jokes. *shrugs*

He's the most complete Russian forward. Whether that means "best" is up for debate. Datsyuk, Ovechkin, Malkin and Kovelchuk have all had terrible seasons though. At least Datsyuk can finish with a bit of a high note.

Start wearing goofy suits made from old curtains and you're well on your way to becoming the Finnish Cherry.

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Wow. Care to show some evidence of that fact? Growing up in the US, I played against teams from all over the US and Canada at the AA and AAA levels. The style of play was not much different, and I don't see how a large divergence could occur between midgets (15-18 year olds) and the higher levels. As far as heart and work-ethic are considered, I would be weary of making over-arching judgments on any country. Back on topic- I am glad to see Huds back. Unfortunately, he might (should) be on the third line to give us another scoring line. He'll also get PP time, so hopefully be can still get 15+ min a night.

Wow, that's an incredibly stupid and offensive thing to say.