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Here's some news. Steve Yzerman no longer plays hockey. You want him to sit in an office down the hall from Holland for the rest of his working career just so he can have some undying loyalty to this organization? Sure, the man is an icon, but you have to remember, he is also a man. If he wants to take his family to Florida and pursue other interests, that's up to him. He was a career player for the Wings and helped turn this organization into a contender. He'll always be rememebered as such.

I honestly hope Yzerman stays away from trying to sign Wings management and employees for the remainder of his career in TB. If he becomes a vulture circling the management for the next 10 years it will definitely get on my nerves. The Wings let him move on and gave him their blessing. That doesn't mean it's cool for him to start picking away at this team's structure looking for people he can lure away from the Wings. Please Stevie-- leave Wings employees alone until they've clearly been released by the team. I'm tired of reading news clippings saying you've asked for permission to talk to X. f*** off with the poaching. There are 28 NHL teams a many more other pro hockey organizations to look for employees. Your inside knowledge of the Wings organization gives an unfair advantage (bordering on tampering) and raiding the organization that employed you for more than two decades is an extremely aggressive move to make against people that used to be your friends. Please move on and look for staff elsewhere... we just want to see our team left in peace.

Read it aloud in the Borat voice, it will sound better.

It's just too bad that either Miller or Eaves might not have a contract here next year, because they both earned it. It makes Draper's cap hit all the more painful. Eaves with 22 points in 65 games and one of the team's top PK guys, all for 500k this past season. And Miller was no slouch either.

In what parallel universe is Comrie going to play for 1.25 million?

...yeah, so no one realizes he's most likely not a native English speaker, or just being assholes for fun?

Well, let's see... Three Stanley Cups, Conn Smythe award, NHL All-Rookie team, Lester B. Pearson award, Selke Trophy, Masterton Trophy, Lester Patrick Trophy, 9 time NHL All Star, 692 goals, 1063 assists, and is the longest serving team captain in NHL history. Vs. Signing one of our pro scouts, and asking to speak to our "capologist". That's it. Break out the torches and pitchforks.

Leino came out and said in an NHL article that he basically did not like it in Detroit. He didn't want to be over coached, with everyone telling him what to do. He also said the Wings were trying to make him a goal scorer, when he feels he is a play maker. He didn't want to play system hockey. So, his attitude was not in a place to play for the Wings. With the Wings, you have to buy into the system. You have to be responsible in both ends of the ice. Plus, you have to be willing to be flexible and play different roles. Some guys play well on some teams and not on others.

Let me know when you can stare me straight in the eyes and tell me he can get around people without getting "knocked" off the puck Kbud? Have a good day

He need to do that now or they won't be able to put a top team on the ice come october...if bertuzzi wants to play for the same or more than 1.5M it will hurt the team alot..

Right but Kenny would never do that. He likes to pay his players fairly according to their market value. It's a good way to conduct business.

1. Mike Comrie won't sign that cheap. 2. Even if he did, he's not the kind of player I would want on "my team". 3. You forgot Draper. 4. Or conveniently made him disappear. 5. Despite all this talk about signing Asham, I think he's going to stay in Philly. I mean, unless it's for a bigger payday (which won't come from us), why leave a team you've gone this deep with--a team with which you have a solid role already established. 6. Even if he hit the FA market--after these playoffs--he'll get more than $1M from some team. 7. We need a veteran defenseman to compete with Kindl. If not Lilja, some other cheap veteran at least. 8. Lastly, how many FA-related threads have you created in the last 24 hours?

I may be one of the few who is glad he is gone. I like the guy and wish him well, but I will not miss his floating, getting knocked off the puck and sulking when he is not in the lineup. With huds coming back I think we can all agree we would much rather have him than leino.

Well that will be pretty sad if he doesn't get a contract with Detroit. 1 mil for Bert to stay? Please?

Hey man, gotta admire the dedication and loyalty on Bertuzzi's part. The guy doesn't want to go anywhere else. Sign him Kenny, and just add in bold print to the contract that he has to listen to an audio self-help tape called "Two hands Are Better Than One". In other news, how in God's name is Alligator due for a raise? The guy led (and still does) the playoffs in penalty minutes, is a minus player, and contributed a measly 6 points. I never understood the love for this guy. Oh, I'm sorry, he "sometimes tries to hit things". We might as well have kept Downey then and gave him a raise....at least Downey freakin fought. Man o man I scratch my head at this stuff sometimes. Also, we're keeping Miller? Is that really necessary? Didn't see him in the Wings future to be honest. Would have rather dipped a bit into the free agent market. A raise for Speedy Gonzalez and Eaves is understandable though. Oh, and weren't the last like 3 years supposed to be "step-up seasons" for Filppula and Cleary?

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I'd rather see Pronger and Philly with the cup then Chicago. Pronger winning a Conn Smythe won't put his career over Lidstrom's anyways. At least not with level headed fans.

was this in response to my post? wtf? i just responded that i didn't think we would see many young players. and all of a sudden i am living in my moms basement? wtf? i started off saying i didn't think the thread would go well. i didn't say that because i thought your OP was bad; i said that because i assumed the arguing would get really ugly about the team. it actually has been pretty good though.

Why not? Yzerman starts stealing guys from the Red Wings just to put them to Tampa Bay. Why should Holland allow it? Just because Yzerman is a nice guy? Hell no. Let him prove he can find his own staff, not just steal them from organization he just left.

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Because wings lacked scoring depth yeah, on a solid team there shouldn't be any room for bertuzzi on the top2 lines but a solid 3rd liner

Kenny and Babs have both said in the past that the best players will get to play, so we'll wait and see if they back this up. For those of you who ahve stated that Tatar will not see a min let alone a game this coming season, don't put your house on it! The Wings front office are big on this kid and they will bring him up for a stint this season, just to see how he handles it. By all comparison's, (Hudler with speed) and that will do for me. All this let them learn in the A for a few years, well some kids it will help, but occasionally you get a guy where you have to give them the ball early. I think Tatar falls into that catergory.

Not a single person on here can say Hudler will be s***, Abbie will get to 20 gino potential, and oh my goodness Nick was overpaid blah blah blah. Get it out of your systems, its definitely forgotten that we were reffed right out of the playoffs. And yeah, the Sharks sure figured us out and got swept but a round later so they don't scare a whole lot of anyone either. Fact is not a thing can be given a pro or a con until November or even December. Pump the brakes and all the negs in here give it rest cuz with this kind of support I would just rather you guys go ***** and moan on the water cooler. No one is saying its our Cup or no one's next year. But I hardly see us regressing as much as everyone seems to think on here.

I think the Winter Classic curse is stronger, so the Flyers are doomed. This makes me sad.